LukeFRC

https://www.musikding.de/MINI-HP-VONG-filter-kit

Forget Bass prices - I’m trying to work out how much our house is worth. Hosing market is crazy - how can my house doubled in value since we bought it 8 years back?!

Metro and Metroline were two different eras of the same line assembled by Yoshi - maybe you are thinking of the short run metro express line? There was also the higher end Sadowsky TYO line too that weren’t exported. In the highly collaborative world of Japanese instrument making who was making the bits for Yoshi’s team to assemble- I’ve heard ESP, which would make sense.

it’s not quite a straight comparison… Sadowsky Japan I think were linked to ESP and designed as a fairly high range small shop. ESP japan make a range of basses at different price points - including Lakland Japan/Shoreline these are supposed to be better than the Cortek made in Indonesia Lakland Skyline … so not everything is the same

I’ve played a handful of each and I would say Yes, easily is the difference worth the difference a different question (and we may differ on the answer)

I think someone like Overwater will pay rent, marketing, electricity, web design and actually look after their employees too. the difference is Fodera use it as a point of their marketing and other companies don’t

@SumOne check out the talkbass thread, the guys from Source Audio take part - from what I can remember the two sides can be set up to act independently as two compressors, but eq etc are global on both paths

is it from someone who's been around a bit? you'll be alright

you realise that if you took your CAD file and went to a CNC equipped bass neck factory they would offer you a range of prices based on material, tolerances, how often blades get sharpened, quality control etc. The same CNC machine could also make wooden toys for my kids, just because there is a common denominator in the machine used doesn't mean that things are the same.

I think the problem with a thread like this is it's so based on your income/experience.... if you live in the south east in a house now worth over £2M, work in a well paying job in the city and like your friends at the golf club drive a high spec BMW, compared to your brother who's a senior nurse working in the rural north east in a house worth £140,000 and drive a second hand fiesta to meet your friends at park run..... then the money you might put towards a bass will be different, purely as money has a different value to you. (BTW the fact that these differences exist is kinda here nor there, and it's fairly pointless and divisive to argue over them on a music forum) Also the person with the large income might value spending a little on a Harley Benton and have a low budget for a musical instrument, while the lower wage earner in the north east may value the trip locally to get Overwater to build the bass of dreams. Maybe people are into vintage Fenders and then the price brackets change again. Mental for some, not for others. There will be several differences though... what you pay for is the skill of the builder, in testing and selecting wood and parts, and making it so it all fits together and is set up right and then giving it a pro level finish. If you have those skills - great. But if the parts are £1100, a pro finish equivalent to Lull or Sadowsky would be £300-500 and you're going to spend a few hours on it... if your skilled time is £40ph it's not going to be long before we are in the same price bracket. I have some of the skills, but I am good enough at setting up a instrument to recognise when people who are really really good do it, and I've finished enough instruments to know that the Sadowsky in the shop is in another league. Of course if you have the skills and don't put a price on your time it's cheaper to do it yourself - but that's true of most things.

bass soul food is the Klon cuircuit isn’t it?

I think if you have never really wanted a Fodera, now is not the time to start a longing

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/strangest-peg-head-layout-ive-ever-seen-fodera.312057/

It’s been great when planning my first board - and having seen some of @jimbobothy board builds I went and bought a board that has enough space for I need, space for two extra for what I want and then, crucially, no akward gaps

watched that and was like "I know that bass player" ... he did some stuff with a friend of mine that I helped a tiny tiny amount with the visuals ... it's very 2020

Was just about to post this but @Risk101 got there first https://www.worshiptogether.com/songs/hosanna-united/

Did you polish or sand the enclosures at all @Alfie? They look good

Gives a great rock sound though?

I had a 1905 model Cimar that many years ago @Bassassinhelped me so up. Cheap bass - but also on of the most fun instruments I’ve ever played i did it up for a mate and sold it to him. Our relationship is now based around my biannual questions if he wants to sell it. He does not.

Their first advice was to deal with warrentee repair via wherever you buy it from

It’s alright @scrumpymike, I’ve got your back and will do the link thing

one rough rule of thumb of how high a model number it is is that the lower ones had the three screw tuners, and the higher ones the four. Of course if in the last 40 years the tuners have been changed all bets are off! I had a JV with Sen body and loved it.

it's not that bad, and it's a learning experience.

Looks nice - that one doesn’t come with the laser … and I know the lasers for metal aren’t the same as for wood etc my fave line in the description… “Portable experience. This two-in-one laser CNC engraving machine has the functions of engraving, engraving and milling. This engraving machine can engrave;”

Ah - clarification … etching thr enclosures! (I looked at etching pcb and it was cheaper and easier to learn kicad and get them produced by a Chinese company )