LukeFRC

Question for the room… how much of a learning curve is etching? the way I see it there are two things I would need to learn - the toner transfer bit and the etch the alternative is a printed/subliminated aluminium plate, like origin use - this would look different but for me be easy (graphic designer by day)

3x4=12 that’s a lot!

I’ve a daisy chain flex in the box of the dc7 that has at least three!

But borrow one, or use one I. Your computer to test it out - if you’ve never needed a compressor pedal before, a space on your board doesn’t necceraly mean you need one now

@dmc79 - some compression I love, other stuff I hate. I tried the much loved Cali76 … and for me I hated it. same with that xotic one, didn’t care much for the optical one either… optical compressor I like though and spent far too much on a fancy broughton one that sounds nice - I like the spectracomp too as a multiband one compressor and @Owen is right - I should have saved the money and bought that instead. source audio atlas is probably worth adding to your list, but spectracomp is good

What age and model is the Tokai?

the irony is - the pedal board I got didn't need a power supply as thin as the DC7, and having sold the HX stomp I don't need the power ... but oh well! If anyone needs the yellow cable for the stomp or HX effects let me know!

I have no idea if this is the best place to post this... This year I did possibly the worst internet trade deal I've done, on another forum with a guy who sat on my money for a long time and couldn't decide what he was going to do, or if he knew how the postal system worked... anyway by the end it turned out ok and I got a pedalboard that he had managed to thread a screw holding a Cioks DC7 on. I removed the screw - with a little scratching of the DC7 The DC7 is a wonderful unit, with lots of power options, could power my HX stomp, and a power hungry valve preamp I had build with ease. But... a fault, it didn't turn on if it was cold. Which was odd. And a bit odd, getting your gig bag out of the car, into the venue and then hugging your power supply to heat it up.... So I had a half broken second-hand power supply, the guy who purchased it originally not replying to me (and being an idiot when he did) and no hope. Sad times. I asked Cioks, explained the situation and the response was "that doesn't sound right, send it back to us In Poland and we will repair it". Which they did. That in my book is phenomenal service - taking care of a product, even to secondhand users and so quickly and efficiently. So recommended. Here's a stock image for those of you who are visual readers!

TLDR version: - some gear that people love, other people hate. - somethings have settings that people might move from hate to love with. Depending on their experience these people might need help - If trying to help people tone of voice is important - this is the internet, at least nobody has mentioned Hitler yet.

I have used more trace amps than anything else over the years (mostly 7 band pre). I can confirm even with the pre shape/s off it can sometimes be very hard to get a nice sound if you aren’t wanting the trace type sound

That does sound brill! You’re getting closer

I think valves give harmonic distortion at different points (harmonics?) to solid state stuff - if you talk about saturation I think more of a clean signal with a big wide fat rich harmonic thing going on - with mild compression too, - rather than a more overdriven type distortion Both different pedals to recommend to @Owen

Ferrrari ?

But that’s one of the main differences I think, there’s not a U.K. maker except Wal, Gus and maybe status who has come up with a bass recipe and then stuck to it exclusively. Owning it as their thing. most are too custom to do that, though kudos to ACG for having their own ideas on electronics and making that happen. And in the defence of the rest of them i actually think the “polite sounding” is due to their target market of pro players needing high quality consistency that sits in the mix on stage on in a theatre show or wherever - rather than the US where there would be enough market to target specific tonally specific genre or sounds.

I have a digital stage piano that has a few different sounds you can load into it. One of them is an out of tune honky tonk piano. im sure it has its place but it sounds flippin awful to me. this thread isn’t about that, but for a moment I thought it was. I play a lot of worship music in church where keys change all the time - just move you hand up or down the neck is easiest

I think that makes some sense though- if you're putting the jacks on the side then the power jack too means they can sit closer vertically?

They arrived!! Woop btw in my experience, unless you are buying loads of stuff to buy loads, musikdings kits of whoever are still the most cost effective source

Squat knob I like the one with water

We're not as good at building up our brands and them creating brand equity as our US cousins? Some of the US brands also has a very distinctive core tone, if you want a Sadowsky sound you probably need a Sadowsky. If you want the Ken Smith thing, buy a Ken smith etc... With the exception of Status and Wal a lot of our builders make instruments less focused on their core tone thing. Gus I guess unmatched visually. I think that makes it a harder sell to get brand equity... Every single Overwater I've played and heard has been an amazing professional level instrument - and with a tone that could sit anywhere in any genre. I guess that's why so many pro players use them... but that tone that could sit anywhere also means it doesn't stand out as much? (I dunno, that's my theory, maybe I'm just annoyed I didn't buy that Overwater @briansbrew was selling last week? )

That has to be the most expensive used Lakland skyline I’ve seen

Overwater Wal ACG Zoot Alpher Status (up to recently) GB Jaydee Shuker Of them Overwater are probably the most comparable in terms of being slightly bigger operation.

Ok - so it sounds like I just need to wait