paul torch

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1351089149' post='1847185'] So did Les Gray out of Mud! [/quote] Always knew I was a classy guy.

A couple of companies that work for have been using 3D printers for a while. They are mainly used for prototypes for client presentation and require a certain amount of touching up after they have come out of the "printer". It's worth mentioning that it looks as though only the bodies of the guitars are made on a 3D printer. Not much different a concept to just using different materials.

[quote name='Rich' timestamp='1351039596' post='1846624'] [url="http://www.loewenherzbass.com/english/manual.html"]http://www.loewenher...ish/manual.html[/url] Uglier than a bulldog chewing a wasp. Ocean waves and lobster claws, my arse. [/quote] I'm sure I used to have a belt buckle back in the 70's with the same lion's head.

take a good look around : the james gang i've had enough : the buzzcocks dub be good to me : beats international no good (attack the radical) : pantera everything's just wonderful : lily allen into the void : black sabbath manhoo : cardiacs think for yourself : the beatles big balls : ac/dc black cherry : goldfrapp

I'm sure mine wasn't more than £20. Didn't realise it had become so desirable.

you should be able to download the drivers for free. are you running it on a mac or PC?

cool, enjoy it.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1350120240' post='1834722'] Adapt and survive. [/quote] I would suggest this

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1350084518' post='1834539'] Good evening, swanbrook (or may I call you Swan..?)... If Paul's boss prefers to have your designs for free to Paul's at his going rate, then that's called 'competition'. If Paul gets better yet (is that possible..? ), and the boss then stops using your designs, that's the boss's prerogative. It's the boss who decides, not you or Paul. Similarly, if Paul plays for free and the landlord or promoter prefers his free music to your paid set, that's competition. The landlord calls the tune. It would br up to you to make it worth the landlord paying you. Is that a fair [i]resumé [/i]of the state of things..? I'm not insinuating in any way that your musicianship has no, or little value; only that it's not up to you to judge that value. It's up to those buying, not selling. No malice intended; meanwhile... [/quote] good response. that's how business works.

[quote name='swanbrook' timestamp='1350062409' post='1834248'] As I have said over and over, you playing for free might prob won't affect me however it might other bands that play the same venues you do. I picked music and I have been doing it for over 20 years, what if I did design for the love of it and went to your place of work and did it for free . Do you really not see the point here after 13 pages ? The way I see it is, we all start somewhere and if your playing for free in a venue that's would normally pay bands then that is the same as me going into your office and working for free. If your playing for free in a venue that only has smaller bands or might only afford a band on sat night but would love some music Friday and gives you a few free beers, food or a jolly good reach around then that's not hurting anybody. [/quote]As I stated earlier, there are plenty of "hobbyist/amatuer" designers (on this forum) that offer work for free. I also have had plenty of people offering to work for free at various studios, some have even been offered work, but my clients know what they get for their money from me, someone that will deliver exactly what they need with the least fuss. I have only once been undercut to a point where I lost a contract but that client was on the verge of going bust and were desperate. Yes at the time I was a little pissed-off but am more than capable of picking up the slack elsewhere. In fact I have since worked regularly with the "under cutter" and we have discussed the situation and both of us feel that in that situation the responsibility lies with the client not the trader. As people have already stated here you get what you pay for. That doesn't necessarily mean quality/creativity but it does mean peace of mind. It happens in several "creative" industries and always has. If you are worth the fees that you ask and your reputation is solid then you will survive, if not, then don't give-up the day job.

kept thinking of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yvHWyvexZA

I find it a little depressing that some people can't accept that others choose to do something for love rather than financial gain. I had a choice when I left school as to whether I would make my living from music or design. I chose graphic design, it has kept me in steady employment for 20-odd years and has allowed me to indulge in my passion for music without any added pressures. Horses for courses, there's room for everyone.

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1350039416' post='1833813'] If you play for free, it means you don't value yourself. Maybe you feel you are so bad that you don't deserve to be paid. But if you are good and you do value your skill and the hard work you've put into achieving that level of musicianship, then It's demeaning to you and the fellow musicians in your band to accept being asked to play for free. Of course sometimes, if you're playing original material, you may need to be pragmatic about the cash side because you need to build a following before you start asking for decent money. Saying that, any originals band I've ever played in never played for free. [/quote] I do value myself. Not everything is measured in by financial gain.

Joe Public - The Rutles The Right Stuff - Robert Calvert. Both a joy to play.

[quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1349881312' post='1831738'] Great post. [/quote]+1

[quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1349714911' post='1829523'] If your band isn't getting the gigs it thinks it deserves and blaming it on bands not charging, perhaps your band isn't so much better than the free bands as it thinks it is? [/quote] this

I don't bitch about amateur graphic designers doing jobs for free (there's plenty of them on this forum) it hasn't stopped me from earning a decent crust.

First ever Beards gig last night, it's been 23 years in the waiting but we finally did it. A bit anxious at first but there was a great supportive crowd and all the other acts, Joe Oldfield, Alex One and The Peckham Cowboys were awesome. The legendary Montague in New Cross re-opened specially for a one-off charity fund raiser. South London at it's finest.

I sometimes tune down half a step and my old tuner had real problems with this. I got myself a Korg Pitchblack, fast and accurate.

On top of your Bad Legs. Coat's already on.

Missed the documentary but caught the live show. FANTASTIC! Bev Bevan was sounding pretty tidy.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1349015121' post='1820666'] You doing any "Badfinger" covers...? "Come and Get it" was always one of my favourites! [/quote]

Ok, just got back from the pharmacist and said it looked like it may be a little infected. He's given me some magnesium sulphate and told me to see a doctor if it hasn't cleared up by tuesday. He reckons either way it'll be sorted for the gig.

thanks stu and ez