[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1365682151' post='2042762']
Because the figures are wrong. If you could get more power out than you put in you'll have solved the world's energy problems.
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I get that, but quite strange for a company like yamaha to make a mistake like that, thats why I asked are they measuring in different ways or a different unrelated factor,
I didnt think theyd gone nuclear or invented perpetual motion lol
also these figures seem to tie in with Gazm experiences
what Im saying is this figure some kind of a typical draw rather than the max quoted by db markbass and rcf are they being belt and braces and yamaha more real world?