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[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1456523103' post='2990105'] Not at all horrified. Unless you're using a music stand... [/quote] See, I KNEW you'd be horrified

Not disagreeing. But up to now the relief in the neck was flat. That's to say the nect was straight, with almost no relief. Now I've relaxed it to more "normal" measurements and it still has mwahh, but to a less "in your face" level. I agree I need to play it more and get more technique. A contributing factor here is I don't generally play normal bass lines. The day-job stops me being able to be in a band because by the time I get home and finish all the admin it's often gone 9:00. So my playing is mostly while sight-reading. I know, many here would be horrified, but I enjoy it. So this probably makes me more aware of the mwahh on every note as I play; not just on slides and stuff. I'll keep at it. It's a cool bass.

[quote name='JohnFitzgerald' timestamp='1456430776' post='2989040'] How to kill the mwahh on a fretless ? ? [/quote] A certain amount of mwahh is good, but when it get to sound more like a sitar it does my brain in.

[quote name='Hugh971' timestamp='1456409984' post='2988719'] More neck bow (though you've tried that), raise the bridge saddles, use more neck pickup than bridge pickup, roll the tone back, roll off some upper mids at the amp. Though some fretless basses get much more mwah than others. Hugh [/quote] Hi Hugh, Actually I posted a bit prematurely. I only did the truss relaxation shortly before posting. I tried the bass again this morning and the mwahh is now much more manageable. So, I'm a lot happier now. Thanks Hugh and thanks to all others, even the silly answers too, Cheers Rich

[quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1456352414' post='2988293'] Now I have GAS for a chorus pedal... [/quote] Now I have GAS for fingers.

That looks really beautiful. Great job.

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1456347193' post='2988193'] John Deacon played a lot of straight up no mwah fretless, maybe to the point not many people realised? [/quote] Please can someone tell me how you kill the mwahh on a fretless. I've tried relaxing the truss rod on mine, in the hope that it will help, but I still find I get fed up with it sounding like a sittar. I'm playing a fretless Streamer with Chromes.

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1456330458' post='2987955'] Sounds good to me Keith. Not getting to sleep until 2am washes me out for ages these days. [/quote] Tell me, is that a quote from Mick Jagger?

Some of those at Maplin are worth a look too. http://www.maplin.co.uk/c/dj-studio-and-audio/live-sound-and-studio/pa-speakers?gclid=CLWftoT5kMsCFVG6GwodFicPiw Someone at the Herts Bass Bash had some. They were certainly impressive for the money.

In fairness, the Encors I've had have been old ones with the truss rod adjustment at the heel end. Things change and I'm sure all manufacturers change their products all the time. TBH I don't think the OP can go far wrong with any bass that the lad likes the look and tone of.

[quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1456250562' post='2987112'] Almost anything these days is good enough to learn on as long as it's comfortable and can be adjusted to suit My first bass (also at 12) was a Marlin Slammer complete with peeling chrome on the bridge and I plugged into a Squier 15w guitar combo via a yellow curly cable [/quote] WOW! I would have dreamed of a Slammer! I was about 14 when I borrowed my first bass; a Vox Clubman

Come to think of it, if someone near there wants it and wants a re-fret done for a bargain price, go for it and send me the neck when you're ready for a refret job.

This one looks like a cool project for someone. My guess is it's a Squier under all that carp, but I know nothing. If I was nearer I'd enjoy cleaning it up and giving it a refret though. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-bass-guitar-maybe-a-fender/331779671490?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140221143405%26meid%3D88cc0974225f4456a4ebefa8f944084c%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D17%26sd%3D231852960086

I'd go the "used" route and find a good Westfield, Gear4Music or Squier. You should be able to get something good for about £100. I'd keep clear of Encore as they're a bit weighty.

It looks good. [quote name='FatFingers' timestamp='1456247296' post='2987042'] That's the one. Has Schaller tuners as well. Body much lighter than my 2004 Mexican P which troubled me and the work needed is beyond my limited DIY abilities. [/quote] I'm impressed with what you can tell from what you can see in the pics. I'd love the chance to work on that one. But it's a bit far north for me.

I was in Wunjos a couple of weeks ago. They had one. It was the first one I'd seen. I didn't try it, but IMHO it was the most interesting bass in the shop.

If it's truly glued in, you need to guard against breaking out the front of the wood on the other side. You can try the method above, but a trip to a local metal engineering works could be a good idea. They can use a milling machine to drill it out. It might cost a few quid, but we'll less than a new neck if you were to wreck it.

[quote name='RickyV' timestamp='1456101146' post='2985474'] Hmmmm......, for me I think it has to be bass player or bassist. Tend not to use the g word! [/quote] This^ My late Mum had an anoying habit of describing me as "a guitar man". It always made me cringe.

You're lucky to have learned about the route before buying. Was the seller honest enough to declare it, or is pickguard removal standard practice when checking out a bass when buying?

[quote name='JohnFitzgerald' timestamp='1455999225' post='2984475'] I'll answer my own question. It's a Squier Pro Tone. [/quote] Thanks for answering that one. I'd never have even identified that as a p-bass even.

Simply gross.

Tele bass is in your area and happy to help you out http://basschat.co.uk/topic/277468-bcers-prepared-to-help-fix-a-bass/

[quote name='Telebass' timestamp='1455867593' post='2983028'] How did I miss this? Soldering, pickups, setups, help with building anything Fender-style. Dartmoor/SW Devon/SE Cornwall Den [/quote] Search me, Den. You're now on the list. Thanks for offering

[quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1455899807' post='2983495'] Designed in California, made in Mexico and living in the UK isn't mixed origin enough for you? [/quote] Ahhhhh.... well, THAT explains everything. I was just thinking if Mexico never made that type of bass in a Mist finish, but the neck is clearly MiM, then maybe it's a bitsa. But I'm sure I MUST be wrong and this HAS to be from the Mexico Custom shop.

Bearing in mind the contradictions identified by some of the guys here, do we know for sure that this isn't a bass of mixed origin?