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[quote name='r16ktx' timestamp='1454324229' post='2968495'] I guess that leads to alto bass and soprano bass, and of course bass bass, aka double bass! :-D [/quote] There's already piccolo bass and contrabass to cover those. Of course the double bass is already termed a Contrabass Viol in orchestral music, but there are Octobasses and Subcontrabasses underneath it which are even larger and deeper. The Octobass I saw was tuned C1 G1 C2 and was played by two people; one to bow and one to use the pedals and levers to fret. Supposedly there is a Triple Contrabass Viol around which goes to C0. It's a funny old world.

[quote name='r16ktx' timestamp='1454179412' post='2967339'] Not really sure there's an 'official' name like tenor bass as bass is already a guitar tuning alternative - tuned in fourths from E, then baritone guitar tuning in fourths from B, guitar tuning in fourths from E, tenor as stated in fourths from A? (Sorry that's new to me) I use a BEAD tuning so having seen this is a baritone guitar one octave down, I thought it would be baritone bass but it appears not :-) [/quote] Tenor bass is an 'official' name for a bass tuned in fourths and strung ADGC. Tenor guitar isn't just a four string guitar but a distinct instrument which was originally a crossover from banjos and the mandolin family. It's usually about a 23" or shorter scale but there are longer ones similar to plectrum banjos. There are a lot of tunings but the most common is tuned in fifths as CGDA or GDAE; you also see DGBD and DGBE which are closer to traditional guitar.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1450363503' post='2932065'] Music really isn't a competition between the bassist and the guitarist, or any other instrument. If it is then you are in the wrong band. [/quote] [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1450363596' post='2932067'] Any note however bad, on any instrument, is never more than one semi-tone away from a good note. [/quote] If you're going to insist on saying sensible, measured things like this then I'm afraid I'll have to report you to the admin for conduct unbecoming to a musicians forum. Please try to be less reasonable in the future, thanks.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1450344419' post='2931775'] one thing has always struck me as strange if Sid was such a horrible individual how come he was Lydons best mate? who seems to be a reasonable judge of human character [/quote] They were friends from a young age so it's reasonable to assume he wasn't always a git, and by the time the drugs kicked in heavily I think [url="http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/john-lydon-and-his-rotten-past-20150429?page=4"]even Lydon was sick of him[/url]. [quote][b][color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]What do you miss most about Sid?[/font][/color][/b] [color=#000000][font=freight-text-pro, serif][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]His humor. He was very, very hilarious, sarcastic. He loved to imitate people. And he could really put them down on it 'cause he was very, very good at it. I suppose it's that English comedy thing that he instinctively had, but that all went sour when the drugs came in. The personality changed and shifted in to a selfish, drug-hunting f***er.[/font][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=freight-text-pro, serif][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][b]You described his drug phase as zombie-like in the book.[/b] Yeah, well, that's my impression of heroin addicts. I don't understand it at all. It kills passion completely. But it also kills fear and nerves, so you're trading one off for the other.[/font][/font][/color] [b][color=#000000][font=freight-text-pro, serif][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Did you try to stop his addictions?[/font][/font][/color][/b] [color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tried, yeah, but it was too difficult because his mother was a registered addict. It was like it was written in the cards. Although he would watch [his mom] when he was young, and know that that was the wrong thing, but I think fear took over. I didn't really know how much to tell him anything at all about handling fear and a lack of self-belief and doubt, 'cause I had all those problems myself. I don't suppose I was doing too well at the time[/font][/color][color=#000000][font=freight-text-pro, serif][size=4][size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif].[/font][/size][/size][/font][/color] [b]How did you work past your own fears?[/b] We were under an awful lot of pressure, all the time. Just being analyzed, continuously – and wrongfully a lot of the time. There was a lot of hate written, and it all got very much out of control. There was no support for any of us, except trying to support each other, and that didn't work too well. I always thought the management was trying to drive a wedge in between us, because indeed that's exactly what happened with that "us and them" mentality. [b]In the book, you explained your famous statement at the Pistols' final Seventies concert - "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" – by saying the band had become a betrayal of what you started out as.[/b] Yeah, that was directly aimed at the management. The way the band was falling apart, there was no communication with Steve and Paul [Cook, drums]. They just wouldn't talk to me. And likewise, Sid was off in his delusionary frame of mind, and Malcolm was backing that and the whole thing became grotesque. The isolation of it, I tell you, deep loneliness on that American tour for me. But I loved the songs and I loved being onstage. They were just not very interested in doing things properly.[color=#000000][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][/quote][/font][/color]

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1450295276' post='2931517'] My Favourite: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus[/media] As for worst, got to be Mistletoe and Wine [/quote] This is unironically my favourite thing Dylan has done in years. Going to suggest we put a version of this into the Christmas set this year.

I hated Fairytale of New York for a long time after it became the default 'alternative' xmas tune, but it came on in the supermarket last night and I actually did a little shuffle down the aisles to that repeating string theme at the end. I've made my peace with it now; it's a great tune with a lot of baggage. I did a version of it for a friend's charity show last year, but we did the Malin version and medleyed into the sax coda from Thunder Road at the end so I didn't hate it quite so much. [media]http://youtu.be/vhuv2CMEBnU[/media]

[quote name='AinsleyWalker' timestamp='1449765227' post='2926661'] So as I've mentioned elsewhere, I really want to get playing again. I'd be really keen to get involved with a jazzy/hip-hop enthusiastic keyboard player (or pianist)... However I'm just not sure how to find any! Anyone know good forums for keyboard players? Or better yet, know anyone who might fit this bill?? EDIT: think stuff like Submotion Orchestra or BadBadNotGood [/quote] I've actually played with Taz from Submotion for a hot minute, he stood in on a gig I was doing when our regular guy couldn't make it. Monster jazz player; at one point we just let him and the upright player go for it for about 20 minutes and I stopped playing to sit in the audience and listen. Real nice dude and I didn't realise who he was until we were tearing down and he mentioned his day job. Keys forums are a bit sparse on the ground, you tend to get either the forums like gearslutz where they're coming from a hardware perspective or the Keyboard Player Magazine forums where it's mostly heavy theory guys shitting on modern keys. I drift around the KPM forums but it's hard work sometimes. I posted a thread about advice for second-wave Ska keys/organ because I double for a band doing Specials and such, but ended up on the receiving end of a rant about whether it could be legitimately called 'Ska' from some guy heavy into the roots scene. There's some useful stuff on there but a lot of chaff...

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1450270498' post='2931193'] I didn't think The Pistols did anything controversial on the Grundy interview. They were confronted by a lazy, drunk, sexist man and they reacted in a way that any lads from their background would, which is they coated him off. What is interesting is this most 'outrageous' event was well before Sid's time and fronted by Steve Jones who is one of the major conformists in the band. [/quote] Agree with you totally. It was a manufactured outrage and a low effort one at that; the transcript is ridiculously sparse and wouldn't raise an eye today. I'm not sure he even asked a proper question at any point, just talked bollocks.

By all accounts he was a pretty unpleasant bloke in the Pistols and the surrounding scene, but I've always felt there were a lot of people egging him on from the sidelines who should take a portion of the blame too. Think it's easy to forget he was only 20 when he joined up and dead by 21. I did a lot of stupid sh*t when I was younger and although I never stabbed or blinded anyone it's can be amazing what you'll do to impress the cool kids at that age, and that's without the national exposure as a celebrity. If you've got all that pent-up aggression and anger already, and then you're surrounded by a bunch of other tools all daring each other to be controversial (as well as the press; look at Grundy daring them to "say something outrageous") and nobody trying to reign the group in it can spiral downhill very, very quickly. None of this takes away any of his responsibility for his life choices at all, but I don't think he had much of a chance to start with, and being deemed the figurehead for a youth movement basically sealed his fate. When your parents are actively pushing hard drugs to you as a teenager then the game is rigged from the go. A sad waste of a life.

Hello Basschat, time to mobilise the bat squad! Hope this is the right forum but want to get the word out to as many as possible. In case anyone hears of anything, Sheffield band [url="http://www.heysholay.com"]Hey Sholay[/url] had their van and gear stolen in Rotherham last night. Contents included: [quote]Transit van - ML05KPP - choice equipment - juno 60, 2 vox ac30 amplifiers. One ampeg valve head and trace elliot cab. Fender 1952 telecaster, gibson sg - heavily customised es335 with 'rosie' laquered to it, custom electronics, epiphone lucille with nicrophone input. 4 kaoss pads, four pedalboards all customised with various boutique pedals. Pearl export drumkit and sabian cymbals. Korg ms2000b synthesizer, cased, three stands, trace elliot bass cab.[/quote] Some pretty recognisable gear in there. If anyone sees it going up in their local pawn shop or gumtree get in touch with them and hopefully they can at least get a few irreplaceable bits back. Don't know them personally but seen them playing around Sheffield and they all seem like good guys who love what they're doing. Sucks for anyone to be sh*t on like this and especially just as they start to get off the toilet circuit.