The Burpster

Someone please buy this fricking thing so I can finally close this thread..... WoT, can you ebay it please if it doeskin go by say the 12th of never...?

[quote name='Bassassin' post='1142542' date='Feb 26 2011, 05:15 PM']That's fair enough but doesn't that make a lot of recording equipment per se a potentially grey area? For example, a couple of weeks ago I was seriously considering a mixer/interface which was for sale here, & like a lot of such kit, it came bundled with multitrack software. Is this sort of thing still OK? Jon.[/quote] Jon, I'm not going to be anal retentive about it. If its a driver for an external mixer or interface and its legit than that's way different than selling bootlegged Pro logic...? As I alluded to its a difficult area and I intentionally built in a short review so that if there are mahoosive conflicts between the current set up and what BCers would like then I can and will facilitate negotiations to try and achieve a concensus. At this time its about setting boundries that give the users an idea what the playing field looks like - It may over time need a bit of levelling but then no set of rules is perfect first time out..... Far be it from me to suggest a degree of economy about whats listed but I'm sure correctly worded adverts would be more than acceptable! Bob.

Serious stuff over...... [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1141609' date='Feb 25 2011, 07:08 PM']I just called a W***er by a mod, I'm reporting you to my mummy [/quote] But Wayne your mummy already knows.... Ooooops she not told you about the time she caught you in your bedroom.....

[quote name='pete.young' post='1141973' date='Feb 25 2011, 11:55 PM']I think the only contentious item on the list is computers, recording for the use of. This is such a fundamental part of modern music (and when I say modern, this goes back to about 1989 and the stuff that guys like Thomas Dolby were doing) that I can't really see how they can be categorised as non-musical items.[/quote] Pete, As the above post, to some degree I agree with you however, it has already been argued (by current BC members) that an iPhone was a music interface, a hard drive that had only had music saved on it, Countless notebooks are 'just used for music'. It is not an I/O question. You are correct that so much has become digitised that the lines are blurring. There are many issues around licences, Corrupted software, hardware integration issues, that it was the common concensus of most (not all) the mods but definately the site owners that the only sure way to protect the integrity of the site and its members was to not allow the sale of these on here and as above steer the potential vendor towards ebay. Bob

Both valid points, and both deserve an explanation as best I'm able. [quote name='skankdelvar' post='1141983' date='Feb 26 2011, 12:08 AM']Message received and fair enough. That said - a general music CD is a 'non-musical item'? [/quote] This whole subject arose out of BCers creating self promoting CDs for sale. This was felt to be an innappropriate venue for that, then it raised the issue of general music CDs and their selling on here. At the time it was felt (and nothing has changed since) that if it was allowed the sale of CDs then it would allow the site to be potentially abused by some selling for profit, and also BC could be unwittingly party to selling of bootleg music. A situation the site owners (and to be fair the Mods) are dead set against. As a consequence it was felt that the only safe way to protect the site was to decline the sale of CDs and encourage those that want sell to use ebay. [quote name='deksawyer' post='1141984' date='Feb 26 2011, 12:12 AM']I completely agree. Music making software as well, as long as it's kosher and licensed. D.[/quote] Again this was about the protection of the site from being involved in brokering the sale of ripped software. The only way a customer can be sure they have a ligit copy of software is when they register it. By then they have parted with cash for it and the seller can deniy all knowledge. Again as CDs it was felt that the only way to protect the site and its members was to deny the sale of all software. To some extent in an ideal world this shouldn't be neccasary, sadly we dont live in an ideal world and therefore these have been put in place to ensure a level playing field. Bob.

I guess you could just get away with that as an amp component....... we wouldnt want to think of you having an unnecessary surge when your disciplining your pet would we.....

You be careful or Officer Dibble (how ironic - ) will be after you!

[quote name='voxpop' post='1141614' date='Feb 25 2011, 07:11 PM']Hi Bob, I have fallen foul of these rules and withdrew my ad without any problems. Can you please clarify who the site owners are that you mention in the Pinned topic. Thanks. Marc[/quote] Marc I'll Pm you with them I'm not sure they would want everyone to know they are very modest folk..... Bob.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1141587' date='Feb 25 2011, 06:46 PM']I have a banjo playing monkey?[/quote] Wayne I think you've been spanking it too often.....

Ladies and Gents, Please see new pinned topic at head of this forum before posting new items. Bob

Ladies and Gents, Since having responsibility for this forum, I have had to juggle a balance of rules and wishes of the site owners. After some discussion it has been agreed by the owners and Moderation staff that more clarity is required as to what BC find acceptable and not in this forum. To this end the below list has been prepared. It is not definitive and I may have to modify some aspects. It will have a review date every 6 months and by no means is it meant to be judgmental. It does however conform to the wishes of the site owners. Bob (The Burpster) ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Other Musically Related Items ---------------------------------------- PA Systems (Microphones, Speakers, Monitors, Mixing Desks) Other musical instruments (inc - Guitar Amps/Effects Pedals) Cables (Instrument or power) Bass/Guitar/Amp hardware (component parts, straps, stands and stools etc) Instructional DVDs and CDs Not deemed appropriate as , Other Musically Related Items ---------------------------------------- Non Bass performance DVD's (Bass Day 1998 is ok, Avatar is not). General music CDs MP3 Players & Hi Fi components Laptops/PC's (even if their current sole use is for recording music) Computer Software (e.g. Reason) irrelevant of license status. Other electronics (e.g. Camera's, games consoles, TV's) General Household goods and appliances Vehicles Buildings Clothes Anything else not listed as appropriate