funkypenguin

any news from the man?

1. Born 2B Mild 2. yorks5stringer 3. Al Heeley 4. Wonderhorse 5. simon1964 6. Tait 7. Mikey R 8. budget bassist 9. Jake_tenfloors 10. Soopercrip 11. timloudon 12. Kirky 13. Huwberry 14. Conan ? 15. gnasher1993 16. J3ster? 17. bigevilman? 18. Keefman? 19. Josh3184? 20. Prosebass 21. richardd 22. Anthony Joseph W? 23. sifi 2112 24. Guybrushthreepw? 25. retroman 26 thisnameistaken ? 27. Mr Bassman 28. Funkypenguin unless a gig presents itself, il be there we're cool to bring bassist friends along who arnt on here yes? theres a few at uni who fancy coming along! il be bringing the two 6 strings in my signature

[quote name='alanbass1' post='751432' date='Feb 19 2010, 10:35 PM']Couldn't find a Spector thread so........ [/quote] shes a beauty alright!

Not 100% sure if this applies here, but just finished 3 days worth of West Side Story with the universities theatre company. its all gone surprisingly well! its certainly pushed my reading up another notch and ive come to like the tritone chord alot more as a result

[quote name='Nick Brown' post='730912' date='Jan 31 2010, 06:23 PM']I have 2 right now, this one - and a Monarch 4 string. They are great basses and when I bought mine weren't quite so hideously priced. Having said that there are other marques I like as much. Certainly the W&T basses are really getting close to the same ball park as the Foderas, in fact they are probably up there right now. On the more traditional area I feel the Alleva Coppolo basses have that kind of quality too.[/quote] whoaaa.....thats a lovely (presentation?) bass there! whats she like to play? im assuming it has the same features as AJ's? (36" scale, 28 frets)

i really like the look of the thumb SC! i think the shape will suit 5 and 6 strings far more than the standard model.

any more news? im really looking forward to seeing the finished article!

A bassist ive recently discovered, if you fancy getting you fingers round his lines is Tony Grey. Bassist with Hiromi's Sonicboom [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL14_nd2C2Q"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL14_nd2C2Q[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6pgM-NVfWg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6pgM-NVfWg[/url]

[quote name='krispn' post='671686' date='Dec 1 2009, 11:01 PM']I played a Fender '78 for a few years having got swapped from a thin, fast Ibanez SR something with active pick ups. The Ibanez was much easier to play, had more sounds, not all of them good I should add, and was a fair price. The P sounded better. Recently got back to playing and got a Jazz bass, Lakland DJ model - lovely bass and a nice sound but for me rolling off the volume and tone controls created a different sound but to my ears not a useable sound. I always thought it sounds too jazz like (strange that)! Switched back to a P bass (Lakland BG) and its just got that sound! I roll back the volume and it mellows a little but doesn't lose anything, I roll back the tone control and it gives me a deeper flavour. This bass, and a P bass in general, is like one of those really good sound men you occasionally find at gigs. I play with my fingers and it says oh ok your looking something classic sounding, I tweak the tone and volume control rolling them back a little here and there and it delivers the tone. I turn up the volume and tone control and use a pick it just says oh yeah now you want that sound? no problem. Bam its edgy growly and all those good things you want from that type of tone. I find that a P bass is more useable across its volume and tone setting than that active Ibanez was. It might not have been all bells and whistles but we dont really need it do we? A P bass will do slap, it will do prog. It might not be as easy to play as on a custom this or that but you can and it will sound great all the time you do it. Simplicity is beautiful, a sunset, a kiss, a p bass. none of these things need to be complicated[/quote] Prog on a P.....i really wouldnt fancy trying to play Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment or Scale the Summit material on a P-bass neck. good luck to you if you think its doable! i would liken it to trying to play Rachmaninov's 3rd piano concerto with the piano underwater (i.e. with lots of resistance)

[quote name='4-string-thing' post='668493' date='Nov 28 2009, 05:19 PM']Original and best! I've owned mine for 30 years, and never, ever felt the urge to sell it. How many of you can say that about your fancy/exotic, 5 and 6 strings?[/quote] ask me in 20 years time In response to the question....i would disagree. i certainly wouldnt play one in my prog. band, reasons being, wrong sound, lack of range and P basses being hard to play in the upper register

John Myung - Scarred, Metropolis pt.1, The Dance of Eternity, Lines in the Sand Geddy Lee - Malignant Narcissism, YYZ John Patitucci - Scophile, Imprint, Theme and Variations for 6 string bass, Sister Sadie (GRP Big Band) Pino Palladino - I'm gonna tear your playhouse down (Paul Young) Tony Levin - Biaxident, Osmosis, Universal mind (all liquid tension experiment) Michael Manring - The Enormous Room, Selene Trip Wamsley - Huevos con Dios

Hey dood! you thought about one of the sansamp rackmount preamp units? i forget exactly which one Geddy Lee uses but is that the sort of edge to the bass sound you're looking for? i tried one at my local (manchester) PMT recently and its gone to the top of my wishlist!

As a reader and someone who has been reading since i started playing music, once you've gotten the notes down, and assuming you have a musical head on you, its expected that you interpret the notes on the page to get, well, MUSIC! out of the notes! every bass player will have a different interpretation of whats presented to him/her, so if a band/artist/producer has a very specific idea of how they want the line phrasing/emphasising, then either a recording or some rehearsal time are essential, speaking from experience.

[quote name='ianrunci' post='655072' date='Nov 15 2009, 11:18 AM'][color="#000000"][size=2]any strings over 15 quid, a complete con * Ampeg bass gear (three tone settings rock, rock and sh*te) * gay basses like jaydee, status wal ect * most high end bass cabs, you can have one built just as good for less than half the price * Six string basses, for god sake get a guitar * plectrum bass playing, clunk click clunk * Rickenbackers, the worst sounding basses ever invented [/size][/color][/quote] let me guess.......fender player

[quote name='andy67' post='654435' date='Nov 14 2009, 01:15 PM']I'm with WOT on this one. I like Michael Manring in context but as I said earlier...I want to see and hear him play bass! To me, imho, it appears that he likes to play the mechanics more than the fretboard! just an observation don't bash me!! However I have an old recording of him performing 'Ghost in the Machine' Sting I think, and its awesome. Wot, I've seen the youtube video, your tone and technique is fabulous! It really enhances the band an is bang in with the music! I'm no virtuoso nor super player, just a player who enjoys plaing livce in a band not in a bedroom nor parlor. cheers andy ps Wot, please put a link up to that live performance.[/quote] not again.....he IS playing bass, just not playing a bass line...

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='653960' date='Nov 13 2009, 07:14 PM']That must have been a heck of a gig. Did anyone bootleg it?[/quote] do i detect a hint of sarcasm there? it was phenomenal as it happens. he finished by playing one of the best solo pieces ive ever seen. very nearly as good as this [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0qIL2ie-VE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0qIL2ie-VE[/url] the students dont bootleg recitals. its disrespectful when you should be listening to the performance, but the uni may have filmed it.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='653924' date='Nov 13 2009, 06:31 PM']Hmmm... I can't imagine many clarinetists, oboeists, tuba players, etc. do solo gigs or recordings...![/quote] Our principal tuba gave a solo recital at uni last week....they happen if you know where to see them. it just so happens that manring has wound up on youtube

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='653492' date='Nov 13 2009, 11:29 AM']Maybe it's because most of his audience are bassists? [/quote] then consider this. what he's doing is effectively a recital. go to a recital featuring any instrument, brass, woodwind etc. and its a good bet that most of the people watching would either play or be familiar with the instrument. or just appreciate good music played by skilled musicians

[quote name='benzies123' post='653251' date='Nov 13 2009, 12:21 AM']That video is awesome and I would love to do it but I can't find a free or affordable score of this arrangement anywhere. I could arrange it myself but I don't have much time left. Thanks for the link though, I am a huge fan of Patitucci he is awesome![/quote] thats a pity mate. im sure its out there in lead sheet format? Patitucci is one of my biggest influences as a bass player his sense of phrasing is incredible

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='653262' date='Nov 13 2009, 12:49 AM']Well, having watched that I'm astonished. What follows is [i]just my opinion [/i]and does not seek to deny in any way the pleasure some may experience from this piece. I was under the impression I was going to see some sort of musical God and hear the voices of angels. What's delivered seems little more than that which a moderately accomplished amateur six-string guitarist might knock up in their bedroom. Turgid tune, crude and predictable use of harmonics and drop-tuners. In one word - clunky. I cringed with embarrassment as I watched a grown man go gooey-faced while delivering something he does not realise is so comprehensively underwhelming. It seems to me that the approbation he garners is down to the fact he's doing it [i]on a bass[/i]! That's sad. I'm terrified to think that brains might well explode if anyone here happened to trip over some Adrian Legg or Pierre Bensusan or Jerry Donahue. Speaking of whom - This is how to use harmonics - Start to 1:02. Not a drop tuner in sight - and [i]musical[/i]. [/quote] im not sure how you come to the conclusion that that introduction is musical and what manring is playing isnt

[quote name='Mykesbass' post='653225' date='Nov 12 2009, 11:47 PM']Doing this incredible stuff to me is like guitarists and shredding - there's always going to be someone to come along and do it faster with shredding, with bass, always someone to push the technique even further. In the end we'll always be going back to the James Jamersons, Bernard Edwards and Norman Watts Roys of this world.[/quote] but i think its fair to say the bass world would be somewhat more boring without players like manring

[quote name='ahpook' post='652825' date='Nov 12 2009, 05:24 PM']a little more interesting, the guitar gives it some context, but to my ears it's just bolted on. the piece sounds like it was written for cello and guitar...i don't see what playing it on an ebow-ed fretless adds, apart from novelty value. edit: although, having played a fretless with an ebow on a number of occasion i will say it takes some skill... but that's not going to make me listen to the music. i don't get off on listening to 'wow what a player' music for the technical ability of the players if the music doesn't get me as a whole, and then i'm listening to the music, and not the player...if that makes sense ?[/quote] I think you're missing the point. that its played on the bass, or that hes changing the tuning, is secondary to what he's saying/communicating through the music. take technique, and that he's playing a bass out of the picture, and think of him as a composer

one to perhaps show you off a little (helpful in an audition ) sister sadie [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMPZ75wQOt0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMPZ75wQOt0[/url] i know Patitucci is playing upright, but you get the idea

in answer to the original question, i think the idea of boundaries is what is most detrimental to the progression of bass technique and indeed the evolution of the role of the bass guitar. as (i think!) has been mentioned, most people listening to music with a bass as part of the ensemble don't know the first thing about music. the bass, at present, has to fulfill a particular role in such music (i.e. laying down the bottom end). with the current generation of producers and songwriters creating essentially the same sort of music over and over again, the basses role will not change. IMHO the real progression in the bass field can be made in the Jazz and particularly the classical idioms, with wind bands and perhaps even orchestras. its not unknown for the bass to be featured with classical ensembles (see Patitucci's theme and variations for 6 string bass and strings), and i think its in these types of ensembles that the much-derided multi-finger techniques may perhaps find a more valid application. They are part of the bass repertoire/vocabulary and as such are as valid and as deserving of respect as any other. All the talk about bass not having the voice to be a solo instrument is, with respect, being quite short sighted. we have the range and dynamic ability to play as soloists, especially with sensitive accompaniment from discerning musicians. this may help get my point across. the Tuba in the brass band and orchestral worlds used to be viewed in exactly the same way (should just be the bottom/not a solo instrument) that view has now changed somewhat. check these out. its as accomplished solo playing as ive seen from any sax, violin or trumpet player [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHMyrhilkdo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHMyrhilkdo[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOsNp4O7AU&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOsNp4O7AU...feature=related[/url]

any news on the bass????