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Tab Staff Notation

Tab Staff Notation

Tab Staff Notation

Mr PC = Paul Chambers OP = Oscar Pettiford

Playing notes in different places on the neck also impacts significantly on phrasing and sometimes the 'right note' being played in the 'wrong place' can undermine a piece. Al DiMeola is a great example of this when his arpeggios are made up of open strings and long stretches above the seventh fret. If you try and play it without understanding the shapes, its impossible. So the accuracy of a tab is potentially compromised. It can work the other way around but anyone who knows anything about notation will know that you can indicate the fingerings on an arpeggio by placing numbers above the notes. Staff notation wins again!!

Just a addendum to all this. Can I recommend Primo PDF software for turning charts into pdfs. It basically attaches itself to your print button and by selecting 'Primo PDF' as your printer instead of your actual printer, it will turn any music software you can print into a pdf which you can then post on here. Best bit? Its free. http://www.primopdf.com/

I actually thing that reading dots is a particularly great way of understanding rhythm, something that tab doesn't even begin to address. Ironically, rhythm is the bit that most people think they understand the most but, when it comes to more complex concepts, it is often the area where 'ear' players fall down. Its ok when its 4:4 but a lot of ear players can only deal with complex rhythms by playing the 'one' on each bar. That's why a lot of music in odd time signatures sounds so clunky (early prog rock was guilty of this a lot).

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1335967612' post='1638770'] I should point out that I have played with plenty of guys who play music for a living and have done tours, played on sessions (records, TV themes, adverts, etc.). [/quote] You have played with these guys but they are the ones who play music for a living and have done tours, played on sessions (records, TV themes, adverts, etc.) I just want to stress that reading music is not just about reading music on gigs/sessions. Its a great way of learning about the mechanics of music. Learning parts by rote has its place but understanding notation is a massively useful skill when you are working with lots of different people. Writing ideas down becomes easier, studying other pieces of music like solos by other players, understanding theory and harmony, explaining intervals etc. Of course you can get by without it and millions do. You can also undo a screw with a butter knife at a pinch but why would you want to?

Try this.... http://www.quinnviolins.com/qv_stringidsearch.shtml

Learn to read dots. It's called defferred gratification.

Sorry, Matt. I wasn't hijacking yout thread per se but the tunes I posted were all used as theme music to the Friday Rock Show on Radio 1 in the 1980s and 1990s and many who post here will know them, even if they don't know they know them. I have to say that my love of Jazz probably began with the fact that I found, during that period, I was liking film and tv themes more that the pop music of the day. I followed these tunes up in the way you have with the Snooker tune and found my way into intrumental fusion and jazz.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj22tOoCZoo&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj22tOoCZoo&feature=related[/url]

Remember these? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-A4HvoGu8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-A4HvoGu8[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LkABDxg13I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LkABDxg13I[/url]

That drummer's at the wrong gig...... Great fun for all the wrong reasons!!

Yes, its toe curlingly sh*t. it is on my list of no-nos, not because Marc Almond is gay but because the song is total boll***s. It has one redeeming feature. It ends eventually.

A favourite of mine; TOmatito playing Armonías Del Romañé. Carles Benavent on bass (the godfather of flamenco bass). There is a whole movement called Nuevo Flamenco that fuses flamenco with other genres (some of the stuff already posted is actually Nuevo Flamenco not traditional flamenco). The secret if 'if it's got electric bass in it, it is probably nuevo flamenco'!! Flamenco is afusion of North African, Indian and Europeam music and is, ironically, given its complexity, a dance music first and foremost. In traditional flamenco, the most important element is the dance, then the cantador (singer) and the music comes in third. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWt-IvU5R9s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWt-IvU5R9s[/url]

Great video, reat sound. Isn't youtube a marvellous resource?!!

Looks good. Just changing your perspective on the content of the arpeggio (i.e. not always starting it on the root) opens up the harmony. Big ears are worth the effort....

Bought two of his cds and played the once each before selling them (on here). Came to him too late but I get that it's great stuff.

I think the name Fudge would have stuck.... He was a geeky looking soul, long greasy dark hair and specs. A great player.

Clarky - 'one more note of Moondance and I am going to 'ave you'

Not heard the Adele song either, or the Bieber or the Spears....not really interested

But the execution is sublime

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1335366016' post='1629965'] ah knackers, here's another band that I'll have to get into and inevitably buy... Why is BC getting soooo expensive? [/quote] You need Spotify, mate!! Saves me thousands.... Yes, another Camel fan here. Moon Madness and Nude were two of the lps (yes, plastic) that I used to love back in the mullet days. Andy Latimer is one of those 'that is what a guitar is supposed to sound like' guys for me and Andy Ward was certainly ne of the drummmers that showed me that there is more tho the drums than boom, chuck, boom, chuck. I remember the drummer on early Pendragon stuff was very much in that mould (I met them once when they were auditioning singers and was able to watch him close up - don't recall his name, may have been Nigel Harris but I am not sure).

They are an exceptional act and I love what they do. They certainly make me want to 'shed and have my respect totally. I won't buy their cds/downloads as it doesn't move me in the way I like to be moved but the WOW factor is undeniable. Great players, great arranging, great recordings. What's to complain about?