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A Beatles tune....if you don't get this, you have no soul. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IyrETsYM8w"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IyrETsYM8w[/url]

None whatsoeveer. Post google: I now know.

Both. There is no 'one way' just a truckload of options. Try Pat martino's minor conversion theory or George Russell's Lydian Chromatic concept. There are others. Its just a voyage of discovery. Enjoy the journey.

It is neither correct nor incorrect. The question is what is the intention. An F#, or more correctly in this case, a Gb, is the third of Eb minor so it is simply an alternative note that is diatonically correct, just creates a different harmonic effect. Its a questiuon of choice, not of right or wrong..

Sitting here freezing my nuts off in my brother's bike shop. I just thought I would post some jazz that may help some of the people who 'don't get' jazz to find a way in. This is a San Francisco based jazz collective featuring some of todays leading new young players. They recently did a double cd of arrangements of Stevie Wonder tunes. So, have a listen to the one we have all played taken in a different direction. Stevie Wonder's 'Superstition'. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBBZ-2PzSgY[/media]

One aspect I enjoy is that we can put stuff on here for people to listen to and get/give genuine/constructive criticism which earns an adult response!! Its easy to give and receive compliments but, whenever I have given comments that are critical, I have only ever got a positive 'thanks for helping me get better' kind of response. Never any 'what do you know, tosser' remarks. It makes for a better learning environment.

The DVD is available. I woudl caution against the single CD as it is missing three of the best tracks; Black Crow, Free Man in Paris and Don Alias' conga solo. Get the DVD or the DOUBLE CD! THIS IS THE BEST EVER LIVE RECORDING BY ANY BAND EVER.

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1323963069' post='1469261'] I remember when the gramophone was invented and we all thought us musicians would be out of a job since there was no need for loads of people to play music anymore [/quote] You can smile all you like mate , that is EXACTLY what happened! Before the invention of the 'gramaphone record', every piece of live music any of us ever heard, even on the radio (which predates recorded music) was played by a bunch of men and women with proper grown up instruments. You would sit in your bedroom in LA and listen to music that was, at that very moment, being played in a studio somewhere in New York. You watch a movie, the music was played by someone in the pit. The world was full of dance bands and musicians that made a living touring 12 months of the year all of the country. The US was chock full of bands and musicians and, for Black folk particularly, it was a prestigious/high status job. The introduction of recording undermined all of that and it was finally killed off by the invention of the microphone which meant that the singer, previously a minor novelty, came to prominence and the bands got smaller and smaller until they all but disappeared (Duke Ellington was the only band leader not to pack in in the late 40s - even Count Basie went down to a 9-piece). Live music was also killed off by the introduction of the 'disco' which, let's face it, is just a bloke playing records. To be a musician - buy an instrument, do 10,000 hours practice and then scrabble for gigs. To run a disco - buy the gear and you're off.

Or maybe he's practising instead of reading this.....

One of the lessons I have got from watching people is an understanding of the relationship between income and expectations. I know people who earn less than half I do who are just as happy with their lot as I am and get to play music all of the time. Their house is not so big etc but how much that really matters is a matter for the individual. Get a handle on what does matter to you and don't fret about the fact that you have only one tv not 3 or 4 and then cut your cloth. You can certainly earn as much from music as you could as, say, a Kwik Fit Fitter or a shop worker.

Actually, if you want to be picky, the version being played is the one off Shadows and Light with Jaco, Pat Metheny on guitar, Lyle Mays (kyb), Don Alias (dr) and Mike Brecker.

I think that there are several assumptions being made here about the relationship between education and the world of work. It is not actually necessary for all educational experiences to be targeted at specific careers (e.g. law degree = lawyer, chemistry degree = chemist etc). That is a myth created by the loadsamoney generation. Most humanities degrees are not going to result in jobs that are ‘degree related’. How many art students become artists? How many archaeology students become archaeologists? How many psychology students become psychologists? What a degree does is evidences your ability to learn, to stay focussed, to retain facts, to prepare written work, to work in a team, to use IT etc etc. Then we have the relationship between training and the employment market. One year not that long ago, the university system trained about 2,000 Occupation Therapists. At the end of that year, the NHS recruited 4. Universities are businesses and they will train you in whatever you are willing to pay for, even if there is no chance of a job in that field after you qualify. A couple of days ago, there was a guy on TV from Northern Ireland who said that, of the 35 Engineering Graduates he qualified with, 34 are having to emigrate to get work. A degree is only one factor and is a guarantee of nothing. Music is no different to many other course that may appear more career/proper job focussed. An additional factor to consider is the relationship between employers desire to get tthe eh job done more 'efficiently' and employees worth in financial terms. Many of the careers we all use to think of as professions (in the broadest sense) have been dumbed down over the last 30 years specifically so the work that used to be done by trained people can now be done by unqualified (read: cheaper) staff. Teachers replaced by teaching assistants, Social Workers by social work assistants, Probation Officers by Probation Service Officers (i.e. with no Probation qualification), Psychologists replaced by Psychology Assistants, Police Officer and PCSOs, Prison Officers and Operation Support Grades (OSGs) and so on. Simple theory. Pay people less to do the same thing. In Probation, at the moment, it is almost impossible to get a job as a (qualified) Probation Officer because all Probation Trusts are making their (expensive) POs redundant and replacing them with (unqualified and cheaper) Probation Service Officers i.e. those of us who invested time and effort in becoming qualified are being betrayed by the very system that forced us to get the qualification in the first place. This is an increasingly common experience in the world of work so be careful how you relate to it as it will hold no loyalty to you. As part of my job, I regularly see the Jobcentre Plus’ Vacancies data and the areas of work that are always looking for people are service industries (hotels etc), tele sales and lower grades of nursing i.e. cheap, unskilled labour. If you want a job as an architect, there are loads of you looking and no jobs in that field. That applies to most careers where qualifications are a factor. There are people with degrees working at my local tip, FFS. To the OP. Go to uni, get everything you can out of it, make yourself the best and most employable musician you can and let the world of work sort itself out when the time comes. Whatever else happens, you will always play and, ‘proper job’ or not, that may make the difference between having that house/car and not. Good luck.

You have the core of it but you need to smooth it out a little, AB; your phrasing can sound a bit stilted and lacking in flow. But you are playing a 'written' version of an improvised line so you have set yourself a real battle. I bet you would sound better if you just 'played' the track with some other musicians and not alongside a recording. But good work and time well spent (my favourite LP also). Keep at it.

Slammin'.

Anyone who suggests this is the 'future of bass' knows nothing about its past. Highly derivative, imo. Certainly no melodic, harmonic or rhythmic innovation. Just some home studio production and some mediocre songwriting. Not bad, just not worth spending much time with.

Just buy a pretty one. Whatever bass I play, it always comes out sounding remarkably like me.

Cranes not there anymore?

Steve Berry not Bury* (not being a smart arse, Jake, just makes it easier for the OP to Google him if he spells it right). * Unless it was spelt wrong on every Loose Tubes record and his own trio LP!!

An endoresement from Markbass!! Hasn't everyone got one of them Seriously, there are issues here but I am hijacking someone else's thread so will apologise and go and start one of my own!!

Don't make it a priority, Mike. It won't change your life Mostly just mindless noodling!

And that Niti video just confirms hows bad tapping sounds! I guess he is a great teacher (an established reputation) but he is also selling a product and is not going to 'not' sell videos of techniques that are useless, he is going to fill a perceived market need.

Me neither, just telling it as i see it. I have been aware of these types of players for decades now and every player spends some time with these techniques but I can say that in all my years of gigging and watching bands, I have only ever seen these tecniques employed on youtube and never as anything other than a contrived 'solo' spot that amounts to nothing more than a circus trick. The best tones from bass are rarely achieved with the r/h slamming into the strings and pull offs are equally limited in tonal colour. In short, most of it sounds ugly (Manring is the rare exception and I liked the way Kevin Glasgow used it on a video he posted here). IMHO, its an attractive part piece but, musically, its mostly wasted time. But, as I said, its the OP's call. As for the classical comment, I wasn't being ethnomusicologically specific, just referring back to the earlier post.

Pictures?

Manring was also a sideman for Michael Hedges. Watch this and ask yourself where Manring got his concept from! [u][color="#0066cc"][u][color="#0066cc"][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wid_dZUFKw&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wid_dZUFKw&feature=related[/url][/color][/u][/color][/u] Its great but is it worth the investment required? Its your call.