Bilbo

[quote name='robocorpse' post='1184934' date='Apr 1 2011, 04:02 PM'].... or with half the band SIGHT READING it,[/quote] God forbid! I am not querying whether an originals band, tribute band or covers band pull a crowd or whcih pulls the biggest, just whether or not cover band A can pull a bigger crowd than cover band B or vice versa. Most of the bands I see or hear about in Suffolk tend to play before the same audiences as everyone else. If the venue is full because there is a band in, it is pretty much full whether it is cover band A or B or C or D. The prime determinates on audience size are things like 'is there an international football game on tv tonight'? 'is the X Factor final on tonight'? 'is it a bank holiday tomorrow (our Sunday residency is always busier if there is no work tomorow - nothing to do with us!!)? I am sure there are exceptions but I haven't seen them. The Latin band I play in always pulls a massive audience at one local venue. That'll be because the audience are all Portuguese and we are the only band in the area with a Portuguese speaking singer singing the hits of the Portuguese diaspora!!

I agree - that first Elektric Band was a monster triumph (first major appearance by John Patitucci? Got A Match - killer) but, from then on, it went downhill for me. I only liked one track on the 2nd LP and preferred his early Return To Forever stuff with Clarke, Purim, Moriera and Farrell etc. My favourite Corea stuff, though, was the Miroslav Vitous/Roy Haynes trio. Those lps are still on my playlist.

I took my Metro to be fixed last week and, whilst I was at the guy's house, we plugged its speakers into his Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0. It sounded pretty impressive and weighs less than my smallest Yorksire Terrier (ickle.. ). Like you, I know the days of my 78lb Metro are numbered and counting down rapidly but the more I look at Markbass, Acoustic Image, other Eden products etc, the less I worry about it.

[quote name='chris_b' post='1184513' date='Apr 1 2011, 11:56 AM']Also, you are asking opinions from the wrong people. Cover bands are aimed at the general public not musicians.[/quote] Not really. I know that most of the gigs I do with covers bands are to audiences that are there anyway: weddings, functions etc and rarely is the size of the audience determined by the band ot the content of its sets. The only 'choices' that take place are the ones where someone in the audience likes the band and books them for another gig later on. The jazz gigs I do are mostly in a similar vein; functions, private parties etc. although some are in the public domain. We do pull an audience at our regular gigs (biggest at the venue in question, they tell us, although that's not hard) but some of them are certainly regulars and are there anyway.

Just thinking about another thread about paying to play and it got me thinking. Do people think that a covers band develops a following or are they just one in a long line of covers bands appearing at the same venues week after week? The only covers bands I have seen in the last few years have been when I have gone to a pub that others take me to because they go here every week. When I used to go regularly as a teenager, the audience in The Isca pub or El Seico's in Newport was near as damn it always the same people. I have no doubt that a tribute band will pull an audience of fans of the subject act but just wondered whether covers bands doing the kinds of set lists we have seen here recently are an attraction in their own right or whether they just fulfil a need by default. Any thoughts? My query is a response to the idea that a covers band would be asked to 'pay to play' on the promise of a percentage of door take and that they would be expected to 'pull' an audience. So I am curious whether punters are selective about which covers bands they see of whether they are going to the 'venue where there is a band on', irrespective of who the band is.

Happy Birthday, Gil Scott Heron.

Found EotB a bit bland (never really enjoyed Marienthal or Gambale) but Triangulo is really nice (can't go wrong with Jackson and Hernandez in the engine room!!).

Ha ha. Cannonball with a young Joe Zawinul on piano

I go through Parcel Monkey and the last £350 amp I sent to France cost £40 inc insurance. The buyer paid the shipping costs in advance. Worked for me.

The Bates CD is not a free jazz fest in any way whatsoever although it is pretty avant garde. It really pushes the providerbial envelope but I can still hear what he is doing and it is harmonically centred and has its own logic. THis guy so knows his intrument and the music he plays. I wish I had 1/10th of his talent. If any UK jazz musician could be called a genius, its Django Bates.

[quote name='Duarte' post='1182486' date='Mar 30 2011, 05:29 PM']Bilbo, is Maceo Parker Jazz?[/quote] If you want him to be. That's not helpful, is it. Its probably jazzy funk (only heard one CD) or funky jazz? It is what it is. Certainly not hardcore jazz but its cool.

Just got hold of Django Bate's 'Beloved Bird' CD. Its a piano trio with double-bassist Petter Eldh and drummer Peter Bruun. Its mostly Charlie Parker tunes but arranged as only Bates could. Its absolutely stunning and one of the freshest piano trio cds I have heard in a long time. If you know Bates you will know you can expect the unexpected but this takes it to another level. His reworking of these familiar themes is pure genius. Highly recommended. [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beloved-Bird-Django-Bates/dp/B002X9ITIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301492090&sr=1-1"]Beloved Bird - Django Bates Trio[/url]

I am not one for cosmetics but I understand why one would worry about resale value.

No way!!!

Its a standard 12-bar in Bb. The substitutions are fairly routine but I would avoid replicating them if I were you. Just stick to the form and the feel rather than the detail (because if you try to nail every nuance, you will fail and fall on your ar*e and, remember, Jaco was playing with Michael Brecker and Don Alias. You won't be because they are both dead - unless you are looking at the Mingus LP version?). You may want to look up the original Mingus version (no idea where that is) or there is a Mingus Dynasty version featuring Charlie Haden that will help. Good luck.

This is disgraceful! Not only do you not want to avoid playing the same old chestnuts that everyone else does, you are actually looking to replicate it on purpose! A covers band tribute band!! I'm off to slash my wrists PS sorry, krispn. I am obliged by reputation to feign outrage.

Got to see videos of TK lunchtime at the local library. Not overwhelmed by the electric playing but the double bass playing was a little more interesting. Not a must see player, though.

You could, of course, go and do something useful instead

I tried one of those Steinberger NS EUBs last night. Not a total dog but, boy, am I pleased that I stayed focussed on the real thing? I know that, if I had gone down the EUB route, I would immediately have continued to covet a real double bass. As it is, I will not be looking to buy an EUB anytime soon. Off to get me bridge lowered on Saturday. What with that and a new Fishman Pro pre amp, I should sound like Dave Holland my Monday. At least, that's the plan

I went to Norwich once. (Actually, having never been there before, the merger of my employer with another has seen me visiting the damn place every week since last April). Welcome to Basschat.

Oh, that. Never heard of it.

What is it? Can't do links in work.

Can't you hook the spiderweb with a fishhook?

One electric and one upright. Is that two ones or a two?

Kennedy is a marmite player. He is clearly very skilled but I just don't like what he does. I used to have a few Bill Connors cds with him on and found his playing cold and unemotional. Not heard him recently or at all on upright. Maybe I should give him another try. I have loads of Stern cds on my ipod but not 'Cats' so I don't think I have heard Kim Thompson (can't watch the 'tube here). Jeff Andrews, Anthony Jackson, Patitucci, Jaco & Bona? But no Thompson or Gwiz.