Bilbo

I go through Parcel Monkey and the last £350 amp I sent to France cost £40 inc insurance. The buyer paid the shipping costs in advance. Worked for me.

The Bates CD is not a free jazz fest in any way whatsoever although it is pretty avant garde. It really pushes the providerbial envelope but I can still hear what he is doing and it is harmonically centred and has its own logic. THis guy so knows his intrument and the music he plays. I wish I had 1/10th of his talent. If any UK jazz musician could be called a genius, its Django Bates.

[quote name='Duarte' post='1182486' date='Mar 30 2011, 05:29 PM']Bilbo, is Maceo Parker Jazz?[/quote] If you want him to be. That's not helpful, is it. Its probably jazzy funk (only heard one CD) or funky jazz? It is what it is. Certainly not hardcore jazz but its cool.

Just got hold of Django Bate's 'Beloved Bird' CD. Its a piano trio with double-bassist Petter Eldh and drummer Peter Bruun. Its mostly Charlie Parker tunes but arranged as only Bates could. Its absolutely stunning and one of the freshest piano trio cds I have heard in a long time. If you know Bates you will know you can expect the unexpected but this takes it to another level. His reworking of these familiar themes is pure genius. Highly recommended. [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beloved-Bird-Django-Bates/dp/B002X9ITIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301492090&sr=1-1"]Beloved Bird - Django Bates Trio[/url]

I am not one for cosmetics but I understand why one would worry about resale value.

No way!!!

Its a standard 12-bar in Bb. The substitutions are fairly routine but I would avoid replicating them if I were you. Just stick to the form and the feel rather than the detail (because if you try to nail every nuance, you will fail and fall on your ar*e and, remember, Jaco was playing with Michael Brecker and Don Alias. You won't be because they are both dead - unless you are looking at the Mingus LP version?). You may want to look up the original Mingus version (no idea where that is) or there is a Mingus Dynasty version featuring Charlie Haden that will help. Good luck.

This is disgraceful! Not only do you not want to avoid playing the same old chestnuts that everyone else does, you are actually looking to replicate it on purpose! A covers band tribute band!! I'm off to slash my wrists PS sorry, krispn. I am obliged by reputation to feign outrage.

Got to see videos of TK lunchtime at the local library. Not overwhelmed by the electric playing but the double bass playing was a little more interesting. Not a must see player, though.

You could, of course, go and do something useful instead

I tried one of those Steinberger NS EUBs last night. Not a total dog but, boy, am I pleased that I stayed focussed on the real thing? I know that, if I had gone down the EUB route, I would immediately have continued to covet a real double bass. As it is, I will not be looking to buy an EUB anytime soon. Off to get me bridge lowered on Saturday. What with that and a new Fishman Pro pre amp, I should sound like Dave Holland my Monday. At least, that's the plan

I went to Norwich once. (Actually, having never been there before, the merger of my employer with another has seen me visiting the damn place every week since last April). Welcome to Basschat.

Oh, that. Never heard of it.

What is it? Can't do links in work.

Can't you hook the spiderweb with a fishhook?

One electric and one upright. Is that two ones or a two?

Kennedy is a marmite player. He is clearly very skilled but I just don't like what he does. I used to have a few Bill Connors cds with him on and found his playing cold and unemotional. Not heard him recently or at all on upright. Maybe I should give him another try. I have loads of Stern cds on my ipod but not 'Cats' so I don't think I have heard Kim Thompson (can't watch the 'tube here). Jeff Andrews, Anthony Jackson, Patitucci, Jaco & Bona? But no Thompson or Gwiz.

Don't like Maple fingyboards. Prefer ebknee. Dono Y. Juss do.

I certainly agree that it is important to let kids have 'their' heroes and villains. We may be older and wiser but that is not what it is about - its about identity and having something of your own. Each generation needs its moment in the spotlight, even if the product is weak - knowledge and wisdom come later. I am expecting it any day now.

Blinkers, he says! I know more jazz and rock trivia than most of you put together I must be the only bloke that reads biographies of musicians he has not got a single recording by!

Anthony Jackson - bass guitar Naná Vasconcelos - percussion Michael Brecker - tenor saxophone Randy Brecker - trumpet These are the ones I have seen live. But, in truth, nobody cares. Its a list. What matters is the delivery of the 'I know someone who....' bit; the reflected glory. The fact that truckloads of session musicians played on such and such an LP is a given. It happened everyday in that era. Its the fact that 'someone we knoe was there' that gives the story life. We (this is not a personal attack and we can all be accused of it. I know I can) feel the need to wave stuff about as a badge of honour. Study music not musicians and trivia - it matters not and contributes nothing towards our development as players.

My post was just designed to present another idea to think about. As I said, someone else presented the idea to me and I found it interesting. Like all such theories, its not without its weaknesses.

The name is far more important than the player because the public (many musicians included) lack the critical skills to recognise a good or great player from a mediocre one. Any thread here that starts discussing the best players in a genre quickly turns into a list of every bass player in that genre, irrespective of whether they made a contribution or not. I once heard a guy explain that sport and music had taken over from duelling; Musician One - I know something about music Musicina Two - yes, but I know more. Musicians One - but did you knwo that musician X played on that 1968 LP with..... Musican Two - Yes, I knew that, but did you know the drummer on that session was XXX A chastened Musician One withdraws with the express intention of increasing his knowledge of Rock trivia ready for the next encounter..... All the stats here show that people talk about gear and their favourite bands. Very few threads discuss core musical skills. We are all mainly interested in being hipper than the next guy. Objective fact plays no part in that. As our culture is increasingly youth obsessed, old farts are deemed unhip because, to be hip, it has to be new - even if it is obviously utter sh*te.

The flaw in the Moondance line (apart from the poor sound and weak time) does not arise from the fact that there are wrong notes in there (although I suspect there are - not listened to it for a while) but in the fact that there is no logic to them. Its in a minor key so the note options for the minor chords would be similar to So What but the Moondance lines have no direction. They don't lead anywhere, there is no impetus created by the line itself. Its just a randon set off notes from a minor scale. It is clearly played by someone who doesn't understand the art of the walking bass line. I could probably explain better if I had a copy of the tune in front of me but that would require me to listen to it again and I don't want to waste another 4 minutes of my short life on that monstrosity.