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Frighteningly tidy board @Jamiexsilver! I can only look on in wonder and admiration.

They're very different beasts, the twin can get pretty close but uses a very different tone set up. Tell you what, I'll do a little side by side tomorrow and record it for you.

Latest iteration. I have another one on the way and I'm going to move the wah pedal over but we're nearly there.

It is.

Indeed. Just to confound me further this has been happening. I have spent the evening adding pedals to an ever growing chain including loops and switches and whatever I can come up with. All different pedals all randomly arranged, just as they came out of the box. All daisy chained off one wall wart power supply, all connected with odds and ends of cables largely made by me by chopping up cheap carp cables like the ones that come free from Thomann with cheap basses. And you know what? This crazy ever growing line of pedals is utterly silent. So in conclusion, any pedal board is only as good as it is useless. The more you spend, but more importantly the more you need it to work the more remotely unlikely are the chances that it will.

To anyone else who may experience a similar problem, this is what I have learnt. It is a job for Miss Marple. You need patience, you need time. I went through the cables, both audio and power. Using a couple of proven non noisy pedals, I ensured the leads all worked silently. A relatively simple start. The devil, it transpires, is in the way the pedals react to one another. No use testing them all individually. Choose one you definitely want, add one, listen, repeat. In my case I only got to the second pedal and found it needed a separate power source from the first pedal. Even though they were being powered by isolated outputs from a rechargeable battery, still they whined. I then added a third pedal if it whined it went in one box if it didn't it went into another. I continued thus until all were sorted. Some only made a little noise, but once added together the noise became greater than the sum of its parts. Using only the silent pedals I kept adding until I found that particular configuration created a noise. It was a question of taking them out and putting them in a different position. I failed to find any obvious logic. Once I had an order that worked I put them onto the board and the noise, absent when the pedals were just lined up, returned. The whole thing was baffling, remember there wasn't a mains adaptor involved anywhere. I removed the Boss LS2 and bingo! A useable level of unwanted noise, but now my little loop was no more. It transpired the reward for my endeavour was a serendipitous one. I put the Boss back on with the whole board in one of the loops. So, I have a completely clean signal which sounds like a bass guitar, running alongside an effect altered signal which sounds however I want it to. And I can mix the two to suit. What have I learned? Different branded pedals don't always like each other. Eliminating mains power is no guarantee of eliminating noise. Don't expect any of it to make any sense.

I'm a hot tone pronouncer too. Still undecided about a multi. I see one in my future, the Helix appears to make the most sense, but now there's this one. And I just can't shift the Plethora from my mind, even though it is more of a straight forward 'pedal board but in one box' option, it appeals to me. I will wait for the reviews from you early adopter types, then see what's what.

Got lucky with my odds and sods order. Arrived within a few days of ordering. Sorry just realised how smug and unhelpful that could sound. It wasn't meant to be, I promise. I think it illustrates how hit and miss it all is.

I agree. Bought mine for my all Behringer board, but it's pretty difficult not to put it on my main board TBH.

First ambition I ever had was to be a lighthouse keeper. It seemed a wonderfully romantic proposition. Out on a small wave beaten rock, miles from anyone. Bliss. Perhaps not a 'normal' dream for a very young boy, but there you go.

Travelled back in time lately. Sandinista and All Mod Cons. Just what the doctor ordered.

I removed a pedal which I thought was introducing some unwelcome noise. Imagine my distress then when I plugged in at rehearsal to have my band mates recoil in horror at the racket coming from my amp. Before I started playing that is. I only hear a half of it as the upper end of my hearing is pretty shot away, but what I could hear wasn't good. I had, in my naivety assumed that using battery power would eliminate such issues, but evidently there is more going on than I realised. I am assuming that I need to strip it down and go through it lead by lead, pedal by pedal to find the culprit. I'm posting here for you to chip in with ideas, what to look out for how best to test it.

Just received mine from Thomann and it's a great pedal, thanks @Baloney Balderdash for the heads up. The boost setting alone is worth the money and having the option to boost the bass makes a highly desirable racket.

I actually enjoy soldering! I suspect because it reminds me of my dad. I am however really bad at it. If I want to make a mundane set at the local a truly exciting experience I just use my own homemade cables.

I had no idea about licensing. The router we use with our wireless desk is 5.8 too so we're really living life on the edge.

It's difficult when people queue up to bash a brand. How do you know how many of them actually used the gear versus how many just join in repeating received wisdom? As you say you may have been unlucky or Behringer pedals may indeed be unreliable. I know plenty of people use their PA gear without the slightest hesitation. I have an amp and cab from way back when which still sounds great.

I suspect in days gone by my insecure, brattish self would have been way too jealous of his skill to admit how good he is.

I thought so. He has a knack of imparting information clearly and succinctly. Doesn't hurt that he is such a versatile bassist either.

Yep. That's pornographic.

Love watching this guy

Used the 5.8ghz Lekato solidly for a few weeks now. It's absolutely perfect. I've no hesitation in recommending it

Any suggestions for finishing this one? I estimate there is enough room for 2 more pedals.

Most definitely. I'm a long time Zoom user and very interested