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This is what I need to know. I am studying a Jamerson score and annotating the notes. So say he starts with R(oot) O(ctave) R 3rd 5th R. All is well, but then he plays that E and G below the root C and I am blithely still calling them 3rd and 5th but I don't know if I should be.

So blooming annoying to have to use flipping words which don't give our dratted posts the emotional force they jolly well need.

Played the first exercise and felt rather smug. This time last year I'd have been working out what the notes were and writing their names under them in pencil. Today I breezed through. On to number two. It's going to sound good once I get above 20bpm!! Damn that timing is tricky 🤦🏼‍♂️

But seriously folks.. I'm pretty sure that in the key of C the 3rd is an E, and when flattened a bit becomes E flat. However I may have explained myself badly in my first post. EDIT I am a dufus. I meant 3rd not 7th. Soz.

Ha ha! Surely not 😂

I watched a rig run down with Tadeschi Trucks (both of them and the bloke named after an octave pedal) and Mr Trucks not only doesn't use in ears he doesn't use monitors either! Whatever size the stage he cranks his amp so it sounds how he likes it to sound. Quite right too. What other artist would be dictated to like a musician is? Imagine telling a photographer what iso they're allowed to use because you think pictures look better taken the way you like. His rig is baffled to hell and back in an attempt not to have slide guitar in every other mic on stage though!

Just arrived home to find this waiting for me. Hugely excited to incorporate it into my sight reading regime. Alongside the less musical (but no less beneficial) scale and mode work, this promises to be a really enjoyable way to learn. And I'll end up with some great soulful licks to boot. Heartily recommended.

Having only just joined the Ibanez club I have nothing but admiration for them. Beautiful neck, piano like sound. Congrats!

It's just Country

Do you still refer to an E below the root note C as a third? Similarly once above the octave do notes (intervals? 🤷🏻‍♂️) automatically become 9, 10, 11 and so forth? Also, once again using key of C purely as an example, if the major 7th is flattened from E to E♭ is that referred to as a flattened 7th, a flat 7, or by some other term? Thank you.

One band I dep for are all in ears (they provide me with a monitor when they use me) and if I got the regular gig I would buy whatever needed to comply with their way of working - but only for them. I can't stand the isolation of everyone in their own little bubble unable to hear each other talk. It kills interaction. Also I really like amps and cabs. I mean really like them. I don't want to use a backbeat and in ear monitors and effects to attempt to simulate what I can get by just plugging into an amp. You may well feel differently and that's fine. I would never tell someone else that my way is better for them. I'd also hope to be treated with the same respect.

That's a very good point. 🤔 I'll go and check, hang on...

Well actually, I tried it out on Dolly's 9-5 and there is a distinct chromaticism going on at one point!

Yep it certainy is

Hang on I'll have a quick check...

Hi @Bobo_08, I have seen enough YouTube videos to know that creating an IR is feasible, achievable, but not something I'm going to attempt yet. The software provided is just designed to edit the parameters of the effects and to rename patches. I haven't worked out how to reorder the patches but it must be doable. I will feedback to Thomann as you suggest. Thanks for your comments.

You're a generous soul, thank you

Hey @Stub Mandrel, I think this is the final board... Hope it's tidy enough now! The pedals along the top in landscape orientation are always on and controlled by the TPM. Not pictured my HB multi fx which sits in the effects loop of my HF amp. At present I plan to sit it on top of the amp rack, but seems a shame not to have its expression pedal handy (footy?). The brilliant design of the Trace has a switchable HPF on the effect loop. Also input level control on the back and effects loop output control on the front. So not only is the Trace fed only upper mids and top (from a crossover) but the guitar effects can be blended and set to only affect the top end of the top end. Endless hours of fettling with this lot. Every sound imaginable from utterly dreadful to really quite nice.

They must have done surely? After spending all that time explaining to Ashdown how to their job, they'd feel obliged to at least try it. Wouldn't they? 😉

Now that gigging is off the menu I spend more time playing around with effects and such. Like Ped I have my audio exciter built into my (nearly) silent practice rig and headphones which give me a pretty good representation of my bass sound. However I have seldom (if ever) produced a sound at home which translates perfectly when I get together with the band. Usually it's the blend between clean and effect is wrong. I expect to get better over time. It's just a learning curve really.

Whenever asked for something we don't play I now promise it's in the next set.

Hello from another West Country bassist. Welcome aboard.

https://www.thomann.de/gb/km_14760.htm

Well there's two of my favourite things in the whole world. Great to have you, your lovely dog and your Profile in the family.

First impressions. Very nice design, metal base, plastic top. Clunky great wall wart to adapt the European style plug, but it's 9v centre neg so actually not an issue. I'm used to Zoom's multi F✖ so that's my comparison benchmark. The screen and controls are much classier than the Zoom, whose simple animations are cute but dated. I dove in without the manual (as any self respecting bloke of a certain age will do) and it is pleasantly intuitive to alter the parameters of individual effects and rename patches. All became a lot easier once I found the download link for the proprietary software. Thomann have hidden this with great and unnecessary cunning but I won in the end! The thing I always found with my zoom pedals was an inordinate great heap of reverb and delay options. Which I have little or no use for. One or two maybe, but there seems to be hundreds. Well this shiny little silver thing is like that but with guitar amps and cabs. No surprise really, it's aimed at the guitarist market. There are empty slots for 'third party IRs' which I now know how to both make and buy. A few dedicated bass speaker options and the balance shifts. They do have a bass bin, head and mic option. But d'you know what? If you forget the labels and treat everything on the pedal simply as a sound effect, and one you can alter and fine tune and just let your ears be the judge its absolutely fine. I did spend a while reducing high frequency distortion (and distortion in general in fact) from presets and produced very usable noises both through headphones and cab. The Zoom pedals allow any number of configurations - heck you can just pile up a bunch of overdrives or five different chorus pedals if that tickles your fancy. Unless I'm missing something (remember I haven't studied the manual) this is organised very differently. Each patch can feature up to 9 different programmable 'noises', they come under headings FX/COMP, DS/OD, AMP, CAB, NS GATE, EQ, MOD, DELAY, REVERB. Each of these has their own list of choices. So all the amp choices are under AMP, reverbs under REVERB etc. So far so good. However, for reasons of palpable insanity all but one of the wah effects are in the same sub section as the compressors (under FX/Comp) . This means you can choose either a compressor or a wah. But not both. Go figure. If there's one effect in need of good compression it's an auto wah, right? The rest makes sense, fuzz boxes all under one roof, as are eqs and cabs and other modulation effects, such as flangers, choruses, phasers and such. Anything missing? Synth sounds I guess. Not an issue for me but a win for the Zoom. I have much more to learn but I will never need another overdrive or valve sim if I keep this! In case you're wondering why I bought something so clearly biased towards the guitar, I thought it would sit nicely in the fx loop of the high frequency side of my Bi-amp rig. And it's Harley Benton so had to be tried. When Thomann's house brand hits the mark the quality /price equation is just plain nuts. Well worth the gamble of the odd turkey. More on this as I get to grips with it.