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I've been considering this exact speaker configuration. Any further thoughts on it? Thanks

Whereabouts are you oh Trace recycler?

It's not just the TE as sexy as she unquestionably is. It's the white Jazz, the OBBM cable. Excuse me a minute

I will put some on before I look at it again.

flip me that is a pornographic picture.

Thanks for all the info folks. Since going lightweight I love the lack of back pain and the sound quality. However, being of a certain age, I do miss the physical presence of an old fashioned bass rig. I have been toying with the idea of two RM 4X10 Evo Cabs. Still just toying right now.

Thanks folks. Food for thought

Any thoughts? Weight, manoeuvrability, sound qualities when compared with other gear, reliability, sexiness, odour, feel, handle position etc etc

Not just punters. I auditioned for a band, and afterwards they confessed to being 'amazed' how much they missed the bass when it wasn't there. Evidently they had run the audition songs before I arrived and couldn't believe how empty and gutless they sounded with no bass guitar. You will struggle to believe this my friends: the band is a three piece.

Is it true that Ashdown will repair your amp for free no matter what? If so compared with Markbass who only authorise one repair company which entails paying to post the bloody amp for the dubious pleasure of having a company you don't know look at it and quote whatever they like. Can't buy parts or download schematic for it. Put me right off MB. If the Ashdown stuff is truly immortal I shall definitely investigate.

Showed and explained this to a friend I'm helping out as they start learning bass. Couldn't have come at a better time. Saved me teaching her a load of unnecessary stuff. So thanks again.

I think the first thing I'd try is a different cab but honestly we just prefer certain amps and cabs. Personal taste. I adore TE stuff especially through MarkBass cabs. Can't get on with the Markbass amp I have. I get great results from a Behringer amp paired with a Barefaced cab but less so with other more fêted and rated amps. Suck it and see I guess.

That link I put up actually suggests the 60s and 70s may have been the golden age of wattage misdirection!

Another fine offering. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience.

I think it's some if not all of the above. No hard or fast rules but you know when your doing it right. Speaking personally it takes time for me to get to know a drummer. Some I dovetail with very quickly - our styles just suit one another's musical needs perfectly. Others may take longer, and sometimes it never seems to happen. Generally I need to listen to the drummer more closely than anyone else and begin a dialogue in rehearsal about the parts we are drawn to and how we play them. It's then a process of consciously playing complimentary stuff. Over time this becomes more instinctive through familiarity and repetition until you both are locked in together. Nirvana for me!

I think this should put the whole debate to bed "So... where does this bring us? As you have probably seen in amplifier spec sheets, manufacturers rate the output of their amplifiers in watts RMS. For example, let's consider the vintage amplifier Kenwood Model KA-9100. This amplifier is rated to put out 90 watts RMS per channel into an 8 ohm load. Technically speaking, the term "RMS" is not defined when referring to power (watts)! RMS is a valid term when referred to voltage or current, but not power! Watts are watts, period! Despite the term "watts RMS" being an incorrect term, it stuck with the community and has become the accepted way to rate an amplifier's output. The reason that audio amplifiers are rated in "watts RMS" is because they are rated to deliver that amount of power using a sine wave signal. Because amplifiers are rated this way, their peak power output will be twice the RMS rating. So, for the Kenwood KA-9100 (which is rated to deliver 90 watts RMS into 8 ohms), the peak power is 180 watts. Most amplifiers cannot sustain output at their peak capability for too long (and the characteristic of most music signals is such that this is not necessary anyway). So, despite "watts RMS" being a technically invalid term, it is used with audio amplifiers because of the sine wave signals that are used to determine their power output specifications. Question: What are (at minimum) the rail voltages necessary for an amplifier to deliver 90 watts into an 8 ohm load? It is not too hard to figure this out. We simply look at the equations for power: P=VI = I2R=V2/R In this case, there are two known items: power (90 watts) and resistance (of the speaker, 8 ohms). Plugging these numbers into the equation (P=V2/R) yields a value for V of 26.83 volts. Is this the answer to the rail voltage question? No... REMEMBER, if we applied 26.83 volts of DC (note: DC) across an 8 ohm speaker the power to the speaker would in fact be 90 watts. However, amplifiers are rated using sine wave input signals, and (as described above) we need to apply more voltage to a load (for a sine wave) in order to get the same amount of power that would be delivered by a DC voltage. For sine waves, the multiplication factor is 1.414. So, if we take the voltage of 26.83 and multiply it by 1.414 (the square root of 2), we get a value of 37.94 volts. This value is the absolute minimum rail voltage needed for an amplifier to deliver 90 watts (with a sine wave signal) to a load! Had we mistakenly determined that 26.83 was the correct rail voltage, the amplifier would begin to clip as the output tried to exceed 45 watts of output. Note that 45 watts is exactly one half of the 90 watt value. This shows that by increasing the rail voltage by a factor of 1.414 results in the amplifier having twice as much output capability! This can also be deduced by looking at the equations for power." Full article here http://www.rocketroberts.com/techart/powerart_a.htm

That's an awesome looking rig.

Excellent review thank you.

btw the BF one 10 is £350 new so I'm guessing a second hand one (if anyone was ever mad enough to part with it) wouldn't be too crazy. Time to explain to the family why Christmas is cancelled this year.

Was lovely to meet you Paddy, always nice to help out a fellow Basschatter!

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