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Time to put my head in the lion's mouth

Not at all, I don't have any place of authority to dictate to you what you post. It's not even my thread, was just trying to steer it back on course as a couple of threads were veering towards justifying the use of them on the E string of a 4 string, something that does not require justifying and misses the point of the thread. Any comments I made were specifically about the use of an Xtender on the B string of a 5er. People can do what they like, of course but I'm of the school of thought that you either augment a 4 string with an Xtender OR (that's XOR for the geeks) get a 5 string. Also, I'm far too grippy to get any Xtenders. I don't find the tuning of one bass string to a certain note particularly time consuming. Often times we'll just play an Eb song in E. It's hardly going to sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks by going up half a step

I think people are getting confused here. The point of the thread is to ask for opinions about having the Xtender on the B string of a 5 string bass. You don't need to justify it being on the E string of a 4 string, I get it

I'm just here for the basses...

Looking good!

I get it - I really hate it when my pickguard inexplicably and spontaneously becomes detached from the bass.

Hah, collecting for fins is easy when there are only two finishes available

Am I invisible or something? You could make it a little less obvious that no-one reads my posts

Tune to the lowest tuning you need for that song and just learn it in that tuning?

Has he confused the words "educate" and "berate" maybe?

Or: it's a collusion between bass manufacturers and opticians/glasses manufacturers to drive up the sale of spectacles.

Indeed they have. It's those blocks, damn their eyes!

Oh dear. Sounds like someone who is trying to be funny, but doesn't really know how to do it properly or where the lines/social norms are. I could make a joke like that to a good friend, but definitely not to a prospective customer. Also, maybe you should buy a proper... ahh, nearly had you going there

OK, I'll bite (and prepare myself to be schooled). I thought the whole point of a 5 string was to avoid having to use bodges like a detuner/bass xtender. I thought the whole point of being a famous player was to be in a position to own multiples of the same bass tuned to different tunings and a roadie/tech on hand to swap them for you.

It really bothers some folk, doesn't it? I haven't noticed it very often. In my experience a wide and grippy strap (ie. one which isn't as slippery as Lord Lucan) will sort out most ills of this type.

Came into this thread expecting to see the solution is "don't buy a Gibson"

Of course they exist - you don't make any mention of budget or anything so for non Precision, single pickup, passive, available new basses: Epiphone Jack Casady G&L Kiloton (Tribute version also available) G&L CLF L-1000 You also don't mention scale, so shorties include Fender Mustang G&L Fallout (Tribute version also available) Guild Starfire I Gibson Les Paul JR DC which you already mentioned. There are bound to be countless others.

You know there's not a prize at the end of this, right?

I'm considering swapping out the pickup in my G&L Tribute LB-100 because the stock sound isn't exciting me, I want more. I was going to keep it in the family and put a G&L MFD split P in there but I've become aware of the DiMarzio Relentless pickup (https://www.dimarzio.com/pickups/standard-bass/relentless-middle). I like the idea of the shaping like a ramp/rounding off corners and in theory it's the highly regarded Model P but with a bit more poke in the lows and mids so should have the requirement for a more exciting sound covered. Has anyone got any experience with this pickup that they'd like to share with me? I had a search but couldn't find anything beyond passing mentions of it.

Heh. I love the aesthetics of these small bodied, long necked beasties. The later "oversized" variants made a little sick in my mouth. I never found my Epiphone to be ergonomically challenging either.

The Les Paul Triumph is the bass partner of the Les Paul Recording guitar. The name "Recording" was only applied to the guitar. https://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/gibson/catalogues/1971_low_impedence_index.php

So the Gibson equivalent of this, yeah?

I'm intrigued but you're going to have to be more specific than that, as a 15+ year old Gibson Les Paul bass could be... Les Paul bass (original, short scale) Les Paul Triumph (short scale) Les Paul (small body, regular scale) Les Paul Double Cut/Money (regular scale) Les Paul Oversized (regular scale) I'm not going to count the Les Paul Signature (the one the Epiphone Jack Casady evolved from). You say 15 years ago so I think that predates the ES Les Paul (hollow body, short scale) and obviously predates the Les Paul Junior Tribute (short scale) Not at all like Gibson to be fuzzy and unfocused when it comes to nomenclature, eh? FWIW, I kind of miss my LP Double Cut, but not as much as I miss my 1978 G-3.

Argyle overload!

Yes, but how many sock players are there?