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[quote name='howdenspur' timestamp='1411850126' post='2563353'] When you see what they're prepared to do on their guitars, including Firebirds, it is really quite baffling to the point of being ignorant. But then, perhaps us chrome lovers are too conservative [/quote] It would be interesting to see what percentage of Gibson's total sales are basses. If it's more than 10% I'd be surprised. So you get approximately 10% of arsedness about basses. Quite how the EB (2013 onwards) snuck past the beancounters at all astounds me to this day. That's all your bass creativity for this decade, cheerio! Therefore, however galling, it is entirely understandable that the vast majority of the attention is lavished upon Les Paul and SG guitars.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1411850790' post='2563356'] Gibson have never made a pretty bass, fact. [/quote] I'm a reasonably intelligent person so I have already established the fact through your reinforcement by repetition that you have a pathological dislike of Gibson basses, which you are more than entitled to, rich tapestry of life and all that. So you you can stop beating the drum and put it down, I got it (I'm pretty sure we've all got it now - you're not exactly invisible around here), thanks.

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1411841939' post='2563252'] Why is it beyond them to put chrome hardware and pup covers on these? [/quote] It's not that it's beyond them. They've done it before. It's because they don't want to do it.

Ahh, Gibson, bless 'em - not giving a flying f hole about what bassists want since 1953

[quote name='gadgie' timestamp='1411743420' post='2562476'] You could always try asking Moon Moon how to get on with people. only joking [/quote] I've only met him once but he's not half as bad in real life as he is online, FWIW

My other band is completely different to The Inevitable Teaspoons - guitarry, a bit funky, a bit reggae-y, a bit rocky. On 13th of September we had a slot on a local Internet music show called "Live at Captain Toms" (Captain Toms is a rehearsal/recording/gear hire place in Aberdeen). They do a morning show where each band gets one, maybe two songs, then do a gig at night with some of the acts from the morning with longer sets and interviews. If you're curious, check it out at [url="http://www.kpx.tv"]http://www.kpx.tv[/url] or [url="https://www.facebook.com/LiveAtCaptainToms"]https://www.facebook...veAtCaptainToms[/url] Here's FaR's set from the evening show: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL0DP9H-Cq0[/media]

[quote name='JamesTun' timestamp='1411725121' post='2562249'] Maybe the players on BC [b]think they[/b] know what something is worth and won't budge on their estimations. (Very much like Wenger's transfer policies..). [/quote] Fixed that

I must be doing something wrong with my NR Thunderbird then Nah, I seem happy enough (photo taken by Biz).

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1411670835' post='2561814'] Things are a bit weird as now I don't have an electric bass gig at all, just an acoustic project with the double bass and a band where I play guitar. I'll probably seek out another project to play bass guitar with, [i]but possibly not right away[/i]. [/quote] Having been in this position before, I would agree with the sentiment at the end there - take your time and be picky. Don't rush into stuff and don't join the first band that comes along if it isn't right for you, just for the sake of being in a band again.

I'm a geek, I'm firmly in the mould of "always got a cable/battery/tool kit on him" bass player. I love geeking out about basses, bashes being the epitome of that. But I've met bass players at gigs who simply aren't that into it as would spend any time talking about gear or techniques, they just play and then wander off. You must have experienced it - Me: "Great gig, really enjoyed your playing." Bass player: "Thanks very much." Me: "Nice bass you've got there." Bass player: "Yeah, it is." [i]awkward silence where you expected someone to wax lyrical about the type of wood it's made of and got nothing[/i] Me: "OK, well, cheers!" Hell, I've had indifferent exchanges at bashes before. So I'd love to believe that we're all a happy, polite gang of bass geeks, but it doesn't always pan out that way. Of course I've met some gems of bass players who are geeky, gregarious, gear mad and happy to talk the hind legs off a donkey about bass. They're ace. It must be me, I am the only common factor in all these encounters of variable friendliness and engagement. Perhaps I'm coming in too hot for the reserved type, maybe I give off an aura of loserness that some people pick up on and have no wish to engage me in conversation beyond the perfunctory. I am not the most confident of people, and meeting new folk doesn't come easy to me, so I may be overly reserved or I may overcompensate. If you ever encounter me, and if you're feeling generous, please bear this in mind. I do warm up, honest Maybe one day I'll accept that it's OK for me to take up the square metre or so of space that I occupy, and that it's also OK if I don't click with every person I meet. Oops, that was deep.

Knobs are maybe on a little squint? Presumably they're set in place with a grub screw? Try loosening the grub screw, reseating them (don't push them flat to the pickguard, lift them ever so slightly) and try to keep them level as you tighten the screw.

[quote name='gadgie' timestamp='1411430450' post='2559518'] That's the new price. I've seen and held the guitar and the lad in the shop played it. Sounded good. I was just wondering on the cost for VFM [/quote] That price lies somewhere between "too good to be true", "WTF?", and "pricing error"

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1411461173' post='2559648'] I've found the complete opposite. Most of my friends who don't play music and aren't in bands have larger music collections and go to more gigs than those i know that play music. P.S. Great post by xilddx by the way. [/quote] Agreed from this commentator - the increase in my involvement in bands/gigs/songwriting has exactly coincided with a marked decrease in collection and collation of music in the house, and I used to be a voracious consumer of CDs.

[quote name='Weststarx' timestamp='1411461065' post='2559646'] I might be wrong but I think I know what Blue is saying... That when someone finds out your in a band and they start talking to you about it when they either dont care or have no actual interest in what you do or in music. The amount of times I've had someone ask me about my band etc and I've started to explain what it is I'm into and do, you can see the other person just half listening and wishing they never asked and they quickly end the conversation with 'Oh well I'll have to come see you sometime' which they subsequently never do. They're probably just trying to be polite and create a converstation with you but it does get on my nerves because when the converstaion only gets that far, I feel they are somehow judging or laughing at me, because if they were actually interested in talking to me about it and understood what I do, they would atleast talked about it for longer than 2 minutes and would have maybe come to one show. [/quote] From the other side, bear in mind that some of us are terrible at this smalltalk nonsense and it's obvious to any onlooker that we'd rather the ground swallowed us up. You think [i]you're[/i] being judged? Too many times have I been on the other side, having to talk to someone new, scrabbling around for something to ask to at least look like I'm interested (which I am), all the time having a little voice in your head saying "they're going to think you're a knob". Painful.

I have had a Tribute L-2000 and a Tribute M-2000. Fantastic basses, well put together, sound great. Just watch out for the half baseball bat neck on the Tribute L2K Contrary to barkin's experience, I bought both the above basses unseen/online with no bother, so I would have no qualms going again. I'd say £280 for a second hand Tribute L-2000 is a decent price (I'd say £300-350 is the normal range depending on the model - you'll pay a slight premium for the trans finish or the carved top).

Although most of my basses are Gibsons and therefore by definition made in the USA and not "cheap" (some recent examples are firmly approaching mid priced it has to be said), I currently have a Yamaha BB450 which I restored from parts and cost me less than £100. Great bass, happy to gig it any time and have played it at several gigs. "Cheap" basses I have gigged include: Yamaha BB450 Yamaha BB300 Yamaha BB614 Squier Bronco Epiphone Les Paul Standard Mid priced stuff: G&L Tribute L-2000 G&L Tribute M-2000 Epiphone Jack Casady Don't even start me on some of the snobbery that gets thrown around, I find it pretty disgusting to be honest. An instrument is either good or it isn't, according to the person playing it and no-one else and it doesn't matter a jot where it was made or who made it.

Been on a selling spree at the moment, am now G&L-less, which bothers me a bit. Have trimmed it down to just Gibson/Epiphone and my Yamaha BBs (which are worth bog all, because lovely as they are to play they're ratty looking and not amongst the posher ones). No doubt I'll be back, but it's nice to have the space in the bass cupboard and very slowly plan how to fill it back up again

[quote name='TheSiberian' timestamp='1410987573' post='2555438'] If I can see an update from the Precision to Stingray, I can't say the same for the G&L who is a rather modern standard Fender [b]without any signifiant inovation.[/b] I see hardly the G&L being a colectible in the next years...but who knows? Best [/quote] I think that's a harsh assessment.

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1410938661' post='2554753'] It's a state of mind coupled with a point blank refusal to accept the reality of the situation in these chasened times. [/quote] Or, if you want to deal in absolutes which are bound to piss someone off, BC is full of lowballing chancers?

I can't speak for other sellers. If I write that, I mean it, because below that price, I believe I'd be having the piss taken out of me. It'll then wait until the market is in a suitable state to accept that price, or I might withdraw it. To be honest, I've had most of the things I sell here up on other forums and Gumtree and to be even more honest had more success (if you'll pardon quoting their ad) not only in securing sales but also getting the price I want there than here.

Although it'll be illogically laid out (because it's a Gibson and as such will always have illogical nuances), I will be doing this very thing with my Gibson Ripper: Ignore the orange/brown earth wires, that's a secondary earth. Red is hot, black is earth. This gives the following for this type of switch: [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 1: A -> 1, B -> 5, C -> 9[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 2: A -> 2, B -> 6, C -> 10[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 3: A -> 3, B -> 7, C -> 11[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 4: A -> 4, B -> 8, C -> 12[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]A is wired to ground, B takes the (reversed) hot of the bridge pickup, C is final output to the volume pot. X means no connection.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 1 should give both in series[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 2 should be bridge pickup only[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 3 should be both in parallel[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Position 4 should be neck only[/font][/color] However, this then feeds to a single volume control (the blue wire coming out of connection C). How you'd go about doing this and retaining the individual volume controls I don't know for sure. Feed the pickups to the volume controls first and then feed the outputs of those pots to the switch then the output from the switch to the tone pot? Maybe that's daft. Hopefully this will give you the beginnings of an idea, and someone with far greater knowledge than me will come along and tidy it all up

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1410812099' post='2553539'] Do you mean this? [url="http://epiphonewiki.com/index.php/Ripper_Bass"]http://epiphonewiki....php/Ripper_Bass[/url] [/quote] Exactly. Interesting to read about the B-450 prototype, almost proved me wrong

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1410734714' post='2552649'] Are you gigging? It's always worth having a backup bass, but if the Fender has lost its magic sell it and get the Epiphone equivalent of your Gibson? [/quote] If only that were possible - there is no Epiphone equivalent and never has been. They did a PJ wearing bolt on necked "Ripper" a few years back which is as close as it came. Same body shape and construction being the only similarities with a G-3.