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[quote name='synaesthesia' post='377199' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:51 PM']The original Gibson EB-3's were short scale - 30 1/2", and the EB-3L were 34" scale.[/quote] We're talking Epiphones here, sorry for not making myself clear. The Epi EB-3 is 34" - I know they've called it the wrong thing. Not that it's a super accurate reissue like

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[quote name='HarryPotter' post='377174' date='Jan 11 2009, 09:30 PM']Using just the neck pup, how would you describe the tone please? The standard pup on an EB-0 is just like it says on the tin, muddy the main prob is there are so many mids it's not easy to tell the difference between an open E and an E played on the D string Ideally the Pup I'm after would lose some of the mids and gain a bit more articulation but keep the rumbling lows and gain a bit more in the way of dynamics. Ideally But right now I'd settle for not being microphonic.[/quote] From memory, I recall that the Model One definitely firmed up the tone, more articulation as you said but I can't remember how the old one sounded. I've got an EB-0 coming this week so I'll be able to make some better comparisons and maybe make some sound recordings for you so you can make your own mind up. Remember that the EB-3 might sound a little different due to the longer scale. I also installed a Hipshot Supertone bridge which I believe also had a beneficial effect on tone of the bass.

+1 for the DiMarzio Model One, I have one in my EB-3

The bass selection in both my local music shops is rather on the small side - not to mention the overpriced side

+1 for the thinking that these new look Rockbasses look a lot more businesslike - like the expensive ones they are supposed to be imitating. An interesting move by Warwick to big up the Warwick name rather than Rockbass as a seperate brand. It reminds me of the early Squier days where they were principally branded Fender with "Squier series" in smaller script. MIK/MIC/MII Fender anyone?

[quote name='henry norton' post='375301' date='Jan 9 2009, 03:54 PM']You could find a 34" unlined fretless neck and cut 32" scale fret spacings into it if you don't mind a bit of woodwork. You would have to reposition the bridge if you used a standard Jazz body but it's not too difficult to make your own with a few woodwork tools and perseverence.[/quote] Now that's thinking outside the box. A standard Fender neck which would have 20 frets at 34" scale would take at least 22 frets at 32" scale Fret 20 @ 34" scale is 591.58mm from the nut Fret 22 @ 32" scale is 584.72mm from the nut Fret 23 @ 32" scale is 597.52mm from the nut, so you might not be able to squeeze this one on. If you're going down this route, I'd make it a Jazz neck. Thinner at the nut and you're shortening the scale length means it'll feel in proportion, a P neck will feel very wide indeed (but you might want this, I don't know) You will need to reposition the bridge in this instance, basically 2" further towards the nut.

[quote name='Spoonman' post='375170' date='Jan 9 2009, 02:22 PM']Lately I've been half thinking I might build a bass, but I'm a bit new to this idea, so this is just a general query for anyone in the know really. I've always fancied a Jazz bass, but I'm not so keen on the necks and headstocks of them generally. I was thinking it might be cool to build a medium scale Jazz, like 32" similar to a Rickenbacker. I was wondering what kinds of things I'd need to keep in mind if I was going to do this. Obviously the fret sizes have to be different, but do you need to re-posistion the bridge or anything? Also if anyone has any idea where I could get a 32" scale neck with two tuning pegs on either side I'd love to know, I can't find them anywhere! Many thanks.[/quote] By fret sizes I assume you mean fret spacing. The bridge will have to be placed appropriately. You could design the neck/pocket around an existing bridge, but it's no biggie to fill some holes and put the bridge where it ought to go. As for procuring an ready made 32" scale neck, good luck. It's 34s all the way in the replacement market with the occasional 30 popping up. You'd probably have to butcher another 32" scale bass for its neck.

Hmph, none of this would happen if bands and sound engineers alike didn't operate a "controls at 11" policy, which seems to happen too often at many gigs I have witnessed. I shudder to think of the amount of muddy, distorted, clipped crap that I have had to put up with over the years. It was worse when I worked behind the bar in a live music venue, I couldn't just say "to hell with this, it sounds crap" and leave.

Planet Waves SOS tuners - you can carry these about with you everywhere and they will get you there or thereabouts in tune in a pinch.

Welcome to the forum GAS = Gear Acquisition Syndrome - the desire to purchase basses and associated equipment which one does not necessarily need.

[quote name='bcbass' post='373200' date='Jan 7 2009, 04:22 PM']Must be short scale 30" or something,but they got bad reputation for I don't know what?Did you played Bullet and your opinion?[/quote] They were available in either 30" or 34" scale: [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_bullet_bass"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_bullet_bass[/url]

I voted A - familiar but different at the same time. B looks like a giant Elvis impersonator's quiff. C looks like a Bongo with a growth coming out the side/end of it. A half made Bongo if you were carving it by hand.

Warmoth is your friend: [url="http://www.warmoth.com/bass/options/options_bodywoods.cfm"]http://www.warmoth.com/bass/options/options_bodywoods.cfm[/url] Of course it's probably only an opinion. There's not a lot of science in this it seems. Apart from the mostly true assertion that denser woods equal more sustain and a "brighter" sound (whatever one wants that to mean) it's mostly aesthetics, practicality (weight, availability, ease of working with etc.) and waffle.

In the process of procuring an Epi EB-0 for more short scale giggles/modding. Oops.

[quote name='dickandjill' post='372314' date='Jan 6 2009, 07:12 PM']Hi Will a Squier Bronco bass neck fit straight onto a Fender Mustang or Musicmaster bass body? (seen a "loaded" body for sale and would like to use it whilst looking for a correct neck) Thanks[/quote] I suspect it could work (as in I'd try it), but the Bronco is only very loosely based on the Musicmaster so don't quote me. The holes for the neck screws may be in a different position and the Squier neck heel may disagree sizewise with the neck pocket on the Fender body. In the worst case scenario, the bridge might not be in the correct position with reference to this neck rather than the Mustang/Musicmaster neck. If you have the neck handy, there's no harm in casually trying but I wouldn't waste much time trying to shoehorn it into the body, I'd sooner wait for something which was intended for the purpose to come along.

[quote name='Leowasright' post='371789' date='Jan 6 2009, 11:42 AM']As far as I know, the Elitist EB-3 is a 30.5" scale, rather than the 34" of the Chinese made EB-3. It's also a shame the Chinese EB-0 is bolt-on neck, really. This Elitist version must be a rare beast. And not in production?[/quote] Correct. This will mitigate the neck dive but I don't know if it'll completely cure it, having not (yet) had a 30.5" EB bass in my hands. I'm working on it It's not all bad. A bolt on neck can be shimmed if the neck angle is not suitable. Who looks at the back of a bass anyway? I agree that the set neck joint on my EB-3 is pretty, but in practice it makes little difference to my ears, it's mostly a structural thing. I do believe that the Elitist EB-3 is no longer in production, yes.

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[quote name='Leowasright' post='371727' date='Jan 6 2009, 10:46 AM']Looking around for something different to a Fender Jazz, something of a Gibson like feel/sound. I think these Epi EB-3s were made in Japan, but I've never actually seen one. Any of you out there actually own one?[/quote] I've never seen/played an Elitist EB-3, I have a Korean EB-3. I guess the Elitist comes with features like a bridge pickup which is aligned with the strings and bridge posts which don't need epoxied into the body. It was my first bass though, so I give it good natured abuse like I would an old friend. Watch out for neck dive. On my EB-3 I ended up changing the neck pickup for a DiMarzio Model One and the bridge for a Hipshot Supertone - the Model One did add some definition to the mudfest and the Supertone made the bass sound a little more assertive and punchier and eased off the neck dive slightly due to increased weight. Don't listen to me though - I'm an incurable tinkerer. The only bass of mine which is in stock condition is my Takamine acoustic - haven't been brave enough to do anything other than shave some off the bridge saddle there.

Yuck (but everyone knows I can't stand this relicing nonsense - extra work, extra cost AND your brand new bass looks like you don't give a crap about it already - nice one!)

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