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[quote name='jakesbass' post='169518' date='Apr 3 2008, 11:02 PM']I don't wish to stop this but the OP was about party pieces, and seeing as how there are some more people posting than earlier. What do our current crop of posters use as party pieces?[/quote] Well, I would play the chorus from a particular one of my bands songs, coz it uses all 5 strings and I happen to think it's particularly groovy, without being unnecessarily showy! I haven't learned anything at all for the purpose of showing off - maybe I should?

[quote name='greyparrot' post='169494' date='Apr 3 2008, 10:30 PM']come on a bass player is a bassist and a guitar a guitarist. I think live and let live, Like Donold duck dunn said ''if the sh*t fits wear it'' Iv been playing pro for 10 years, and in every gig do at least one spot.....im still paying the morgage playing bass, and doing the odd solo that punters i can tell you do love! I know i do it. But yes first and formost, we are bass players, but im one that enjoys a solo or two! call me what you like, im having fun!! ha ha[/quote] Quite so - you've got a situation where a bass solo is appropriate, which is great; what I meant was that you shouldn't try to force the punters the appreciate "the true potential of the bass" if they're not gonna be interested... then again, I think that very idea is pointless - Steve Lawson has shown that the true potential of the bass is limitless!

[quote name='greyparrot' post='169477' date='Apr 3 2008, 10:02 PM']Agreed but a Bit as in solo. hmmm so im starting to think the veiw to be upfront about what we do with regard to a solo spot is not cool? Why please?[/quote] If it's appropriate and sounds cool, why not? But then, it rarely is appropriate and even in such situations, few bassists have the technical ability/taste to make a solo sound cool... If you're playing for a bunch of non-musos, there is pretty much no point in showing off just what you can do, because the fact is that you're playing bass and they're not so you already have one up on them (admittedly there may well be some guitarists who think they can play bass in the audience and they probably will appreciate some flash wizardry, but that'll just make us look like wannabe guitarists, and if you're a wannabe guitarist, just get a bloody guitar and stop pretending you're a bassist who likes to do things differently*) If you're playing for someone who will actually appreciate your musicianship, taste is still a bigger part of that than technical virtuosity, so just don't get carried away Personally I think my bass lines are interesting enough that I'm showing the audience that the bass has a bit more potential than just to thud along the root notes, but that's not what I aim for; I just aim to make the music sound as good as possible! If you think you can't express the potential of your playing without straying beyond the bounds of appropriateness... you're wrong! Because your potential is clearly limited by your inability to fit something impressive into the right situation *In contrast to what I've just said, I have no problem with bassists doing things differently, even if that includes playing the bass like it's a guitar, but in your standard gig, the bass should be playing the bass parts

[quote name='Born 2B Mild' post='165151' date='Mar 28 2008, 12:13 PM'][quote name='Paul_C' post='165038' date='Mar 28 2008, 08:37 AM'] I've got a Washburn AB10 I'm selling for £200 ..[/quote] BUY THIS! I've had one for a few years and it really is a great bass. NB. Most electro-acoustic bass guitars are really only useful when amplified, so don't buy one if you want to use it completey unplugged, as they are too quiet. [/quote] I've gigged mine unplugged (competing with a keyboard and an acoustic guitar)

As the saying goes, the guitarist is always wrong... just played along myself and your chords are right, buttt when it comes to the strange key change, the whole thing does indeed go to pot - the actual song is in F# minor, so if you put it in D major (why?!), that changes everything... the new chords you were playing were in D minor, whereas theirs (presumably not actually exactly D, Em A D Bm G Em C Em) should have been D major, but I can neither work out why you'd play it in D major nor what would be the right chords... if I were you I'd get them to play it in a minor key or it'll just sound strange!

Hmm... in contrary to other views posted, I'm not totally sure this is the case - it could just be that you've formed an attachment to the newer bass and so the other just seems different and therefore WRONG; maybe by the end of your holiday you'll be used to it again and it'll be okaeey? Try playing them both a bit more often

So you reckon it's endemic as opposed to solely a basschat thing? I have to agree about Chris Wolstenholme especially - the bass on the latest album is totally uninspiring... still, not all Fender sounds are dull thuds - what about Jaco? He was never just part of the rhythm section Then again, he wasn't a rock bassist...

Well, personally I think obZen's very good too, but yeah, can't beat Nothing... Is this a very subtle "GOD I HATE JAZZ!!!" thread? I like metal and jazz, but metal is music to listen to whilst jazz is music to talk about! The thing about bass and metal is that typically, if a bassist does anything other than play root notes or just copying the rhythm guitar, it's seen as not metal, or at least incorporating other styles, so when we talk about fretless bass players, we're including Steve DiGiorgio and Chapman sticks and ERBs are gonna relate to John Myung or whatever but nobody's really interested in what Dick Lövgren plays because it's exactly the same as the guitar... right?

It's Diamanda Galas (and that's a fantastic album!) I had no idea it was an 8-string - am I just deaf or is it coz I've been listening through laptop speakers?

[quote name='nick' post='161282' date='Mar 21 2008, 09:52 AM']Not a Wishbass, but still weird [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Really-Strange-4-String-Electric-Guitar-Bass-Lead_W0QQitemZ250225356523QQihZ015QQcategoryZ68175QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Really-Strange-4-Str...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url][/quote] Since I've just bid on this, does anyone have any idea what it is? A tenor guitar?

[quote name='The Funk' post='161230' date='Mar 21 2008, 12:24 AM']Just try anything and if it sounds crap don't do it again[/quote] +1!!!

Well, this might be completely the wrong feel, but what I'd probably play would be the appropriate third and then the root... like this in tab: [font="Courier New"]G -------------------------------- D -------------------------------- A -------------------------------- E 30030030300300304004004040040040[/font] And then the equivelant for B - either down if you have a 5-string (so much easier...) or up if you don't! Or you could just fit the third in on whatever the accented beats are... or play those notes an octave up!

I used to have a 5-string Traben (sold that on here last December) but now I just have a 4-string Chaos - got 'em both from this ebay seller: [url="http://stores.ebay.com/Grand-Central-Music"]http://stores.ebay.com/Grand-Central-Music[/url] It works out nicely cheap with the exchange rate and the reasonable postage

Yeees - they are rather lovely basses; if only they did 6-strings I'd have to get another!

Hmm, fascinating idea... muting your fingertips could be a cool new sound in the making!

I was thinking of getting some for myself but they don't come in packs of 7

Did you get the finger puppets too??

[quote name='Beedster' post='158265' date='Mar 16 2008, 12:25 AM']To use the painting metaphor, Jaco's bass is more like a set of Rembrandt's paintbrushes than one of Rembrandt's paintings. Jaco's legacy is his performances, not his instrument. He would have sounded as good on any other bass, whilst very few players would have sounded/will ever sound as good on tha bass in question. Ergo, it's not the bass that's historically important. Chris[/quote] I accept your first point, but I still think the bass (and the paintbrushes and for that matter Martin Luther King's toothbrush) has historical importance - the point is that in our imaginations, it provides a connection to Jaco and the music he played on that bass... with that in mind, another example: a piece of the true cross is just a lump of wood (not even a bass!) and Jesus would have been nailed up just as efficiently on any other cross - it wasn't even specially made for Jesus or selected by him; but a mundane object associated with someone special is invested with historical interest, which is why Jaco's bass is an artifact which can fuel our imaginations if we want it to

Of course - it's a historical artifact and although it's no different physically from being played by Jaco, it does have great historical value, just like paintings in art galleries (you wouldn't pay to see a bunch of prints that you could just look at online, would you?)

What I take from that is that he's internalised all the theory and doesn't have to think about what he's doing... I certainly don't think his playing sounds like random nonsense! But still, perhaps not the best way to express that to guitarists who don't have his discipline

Seth Horan

Stephan Fimmers?

[quote name='2wheeler' post='157704' date='Mar 14 2008, 08:58 PM']Thanks for that: both the encouragement and the youtube link! Love the comment about playing along to an original song I am pretty sure that Slagwerk = Drum kit but I'm stuffed I know what the language is. I guess Dutch? Anyone know?[/quote] freetranslation.com says it's Dutch for "blow work" - so the linguist in me says it's "percussion"