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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1478714450' post='3171165'] Females can be fickle. If they don't like certain songs they're not going to sing it. [/quote] So can males. If one former guitarist didn't like a song, he completely ignored requests from the rest of the band that we do it. Don't have any such problems with our female vocalist. I think just about all of the female fronted tracks we cover have been mentioned by now. Mrs Zero inherited a set which was for a male-fronted band, then when our guitarist left and we replaced him, we revamped the set and brought in some Blondie, Eurhythmics, Pretenders, and Tina Turner. I think we still bring in about 50/50 male-fronted and female-fronted songs to the set.

Have a listen to Miley Cyrus's recorded version of Jolene, available on a Youtube near you. There's a nice little bit of bass embellishment on that which works for the song. The bassist on the live duet of Miley Cyrus and her godmother Dolly Parton doesn't play those fills though.

[quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1478660707' post='3170718'] I may be a bit out there, but one of my all time fave Floyd tracks was written and sung by Richard Wright [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBC86e5cT5U[/media] [/quote] I believe the incredibly poignant slide guitar was Syd Barrett, guesting on the album.

[quote name='BassBus' timestamp='1478557181' post='3169948'] Indeed the pound dropping has actually benefited the UK economy. Our goods are now more competitive. [/quote] I'm waiting for someone to realise that one of the strongest economies is about to leave the EU, and revises the value of the Euro accordingly.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1478288019' post='3168261'] So, fleabag, which of those is your favourite? :-D [/quote] And do you know what "one hit wonder" means? Musical Youth - no Desmond Dekker - no Kajagoogoo - no Stealer's Wheel - two other top 40 singles so it depends whether "hit" is top 40 or top 20

[quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1478192793' post='3167463'] I think it's just great he's still doing it, still being bothered to make music. Whilst it's far from my thing, it's also hard to take a dislike to. I think 'Devil Woman' and 'We Don't Talk Anymore' are also classic singles. [/quote] "Carrie" is probably my favourite Cliff track. Perhaps it's because of where it's pitched that he has a bite in his voice that "Devil Woman" lacks.

[quote name='geoffbyrne' timestamp='1478081298' post='3166542'] Go back & listen to the 'I'm Nearly Famous' album - particularly ;Devil Woman'. [/quote] I remember when that came out - heard it on the radio, not knowing who it was, and thought that the band was fine but they could do with a rockier singer.

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1478092609' post='3166668'] Well she certainly didn't like that one, slags it off at the end and gives it away. The manufacturers will be well chuffed... [/quote] It did sound sh*t though.

[quote name='cgg199' timestamp='1477049964' post='3159491'] In short, is it possible to use an American bought D800 in the UK? [/quote] The warranty may not cover it if you buy in the US and bring it back here.

[quote name='GregBass' timestamp='1475842474' post='3149151'] Unless, like me, they play in a pub covers band with a 400W PA that has no subs. Surely I am not the only one on here in a band like that? Am I? [/quote] Like me, you are obviously not a good bass player.

It's an era and a genre for me - 70s rock music, when bassists like Trevor Bolder, Dennis Dunaway, John Entwistle and the like were playing melodic lines with assorted fills and grace notes. Then the 80s came along and it seemed to move to constant root notes (with the odd exception like Duran Duran and Pino's playing for Paul Young). There seemed to be more freeness to bass back then.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477377056' post='3161747'] No I'm saying to bring your existing kit up to match the RCF ones you would need to add subs. [/quote] Right, got it. I'm keeping an open mind on the situation as our drummer may be moving to an electronic kit, and our guitarist is having problems hearing some things, so no backline, PA only, and IEMs is a possible future route, but subs would be a PITA so it would be a case of moving over to something like the RCFs.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477301540' post='3161152'] There absolutely nothing wrong with that kit but if you were starting out with a blank canvas the cost wouldn't be that different [/quote] Two SRM450s = one RCF 735A. [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477301540' post='3161152'] you'd only need to buy a pair of active subs to add to your PA to bring the cost level and the volume level but you'd have two more big boxes to store and carry for each gig. If you don't need them then it's neither here nor there anyway. [/quote] I'm a little confused now. We'd need a pair of active subs as well as the RCF735s? Or as well as the SRM450s? I thought you just said the RCF 735s on their own would do the job. I really don't want to go for active subs too, they tend to weight rather more than Berg AE112s which they would effectively be replacing.

In our band, I [1] own the bits of PA that actually make the noise, the guitarist owns the rest - mixer and lots of outboard bits. SRM450s for vocal FOH and a bit of kick, Behringer D210s for vocal monitors. RCF 735s or 745s and no backline sound nice to have, but it means that someone has to find somewhere over a grand to do it. That's 20+ £50 a head gigs for me to finance them when what we've got works well. Maybe we're just so entertaining that the audience don't notice the sound deficiencies, because we haven't had any comments about poor sound quality since starting using the current setup a couple of years ago. [1] As I'm married to the vocalist and what's mine is hers, and what's hers is hers, the vocalist owns the PA.

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1477211653' post='3160491'] Name and shame or just let someone else fall into the trap... [/quote] How many hen nights would you expect the landlady to have?

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1476884373' post='3158088'] For those of you only using minimal PA - any of you using an SVT Classic with two large cabs as your bass backline? [/quote] God no. I want a decent sound.

Isn't it where EB get their toasted necks?

Would this make it easier to find, or harder? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222075735735"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222075735735[/url]

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1476033079' post='3150651'] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Excellent-Ashdown-Bass-Amp-And-Cab-1500-Watts-Collectively-With-Flight-Case-/131941885809"]http://www.ebay.co.u...e-/131941885809[/url] adding the cab to the peak output .. :-) [/quote] I think it's adding the amp's RMS and peak output - cab plus amp would be 1600W, so even more powerful! Obviously, the RMS output comes out of one socket and the peak output comes out of the other one.

Backline and vocal PA for us too. Logistically and financially it makes sense for us.

Sometimes it's what the song needs, sometimes it's what I think the song requires. The song is in no position to dictate. I generally play a reasonable approximation of the original, except when we're playing a song which has been covered by loads of people so we're taking the bits we like, when I get rather busy.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1475582611' post='3147055'] That's how musical exchanges in Birmingham was in 1990, and guess what, all those annoying kids grew up, got jobs and spent loads of cash in there just a few years later,my originals band must have spent nearly 10k in there over a few years. [/quote] It was like that in the 70s too. And in the old shop in Broad Street that burnt down, that I used to visit when I was a spotty schoolboy. Funnily enough, little Gary who works at PMT Birmingham used to work at Musical Exchanges back in the Broad Street days and then when they moved to Snow Hill. I remember him showing me photos of the fire damage and burnt guitars at the old shop, many years ago.

Just remembered, I meant to mention Gary Moore, a leftie who played right-handed and thought it gave him an advantage because his better hand was his fretting hand. This may be because when one looks back to classical guitar, the really complex bit is what the right hand does. The left hand is just being positioned in assorted patterns (simplifying vastly).

A guitarist I knew was a leftie who played (very well) right-handed. However, his handedness preyed on his mind, and he eventually bought a left-handed guitar and learnt to play left-handed too. Then, in a completely unrelated development, we played in a band together, and he threw himself into the canal on the day of our first gig. Well, I assume it was unrelated.

[quote name='Trueno' timestamp='1475320386' post='3144995'] The other side of the coin, which is another interesting side of this thread, is pushy parent syndrome. The aforementioned Trueno Major has proved to be a little pushy with his own progeny (imo). Happy medium, anyone? [/quote] I did start to whitter on about my nephew but decided against it. But I will now. My little sister's son plays guitar and she (and her current husband, his stepfather) encourages him. My little brother's son plays guitar, flute, keyboards, and drums. My brother (and his wife) encourages this. They're not being pushy though, in both cases, just supportive (although now I've introduced them to open mic nights near where they live in Falmouth, my nephew might get encouraged to go to them). My stepson, incidentally, has been encouraged but it's not a computer game so, despite there being guitars, basses, keyboards, and a violin in the house, he remains resolutely unproductive in a musical sense.