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[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1468912845' post='3094187'] Until this morning I had lived in blissful ignorance that such a silly, pointless word even existed. [/quote] I knew it existed, but as the past tense of the verb "stink", not as a noun.

They were in Milwaukee.

[quote name='DarkHeart' timestamp='1468797733' post='3093441'] yes Ive got one [/quote] And you still don't know how it works?

[quote name='DarkHeart' timestamp='1468796662' post='3093434'] The Behringher pedal allows 2 basses to be plugged into to the same input [/quote] No it doesn't, that's physically impossible. It allows 2 basses to be plugged into 2 inputs, one into each, and the output can then be plugged into an amplifier. [quote name='DarkHeart' timestamp='1468796662' post='3093434'] and the levels set by the controls on the pedal, put your foot on the pedal you can switch between 2 basses, why is this muppet making an issue of something so simple!! [/quote] The levels are not set by the controls on the pedal in the way that you think. Read the instructions (conveniently reproduced on the first page of this topic), or get someone else to explain them to you if they're too complicated.

[quote name='DarkHeart' timestamp='1468795562' post='3093426'] and he said he wanted 2 basses into one input! whats difficult to understand about that? [/quote] Yes, he said he wanted two basses into one amplifier input. That would mean one bass goes into input A and the other into input B, the output would go to the amplifier, and the switch would be set to give two inputs and one output. And when you do that, only one of the level controls alters a level, and the level that it alters is the overall level, not the level of one channel. What's so difficult to understand about that?

I agree with Muppet about getting all the requirements listed and getting the answers well in advance of the gig, to reduce the stress around the organisation. With that anxiety removed, you may find everything else fades away, and if not, you'll still be better placed to analyse what is still causing you stress.

Interparcel and UPS for me. Herpes have once again left a parcel for me behind the bush to the side of the front door. They regularly either do that or chuck it over the gate, ditto Yokel, neither of which I would entrust with anything more valuable than a used paper cup.

If you're changing EQ too, Zoom MS60B with one patch set up for one bass and the other for the other.

[quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1468659387' post='3092411'] I've just dug mine out and I'm sorry to say Tauzero is correct and I was wrong. I could have sworn it worked that way as I've never used it to feed one bass into two different amps. Apologies to all [/quote] It's easy to assume it as you'll most likely adjust the A channel as it's the first one you'll plug something into, hear that it changes the volume, and assume it's the same for B as well. Plus when you look at it, it seems obvious that it'll set the input levels. TBH, I went looking at the instructions after I found by experiment that the input levels weren't individually set.

[quote name='DarkHeart' timestamp='1468621077' post='3092278'] yes you can, have you got one? see those knobs on the top that say `Level`, you can turn them round so you can have the same volume from both inputs to the one output. [/quote] Good lord yes, I've got one, and I'm also capable of reading the instructions. Which is why I know that the level knobs set individual levels only when they're used for one input to two outputs. [url="https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/manuals/248-6006-behringer-ab100-manual-42682.pdf"]https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/manuals/248-6006-behringer-ab100-manual-42682.pdf[/url] Read the instructions for 5 and 6.

[quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1468538975' post='3091702'] Cheap as chips option. You can set the output level of each channel to your amp on the pedal. I've got one, works perfectly [/quote] I don't know why people think you can set the levels differently when using it as an A-B switch on the inputs. You can't. The only time you can set the levels differently is when you use it with a single input and A-B between two amplifiers - ie. two outputs and one input. You can't set the channels to different levels if you're switching between two inputs.

Primarily a bassist, I also play guitar for songwriting and to accompany Mrs Zero when we go duetting.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1466290636' post='3074780'] Quite. In the UK some clubs will only book through an agent but bar/pub gigs at the lower level are done band to landlord. [/quote] Some pubs are doing that. Sadly, the agencies they use don't seem to want to use us, despite the venues themselves loving us - I think they must have their little list of favourite bands.

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1465486596' post='3068690'] I like it! Milwaukee is now part of Basschat folklore [/quote] What made Milwaukee famous...

[quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1456920453' post='2993498'] [i]oh no! the bridge has gone, poor old red just can't carry on but smart old blue, he took the milky way[/i] [i]-------[/i] Ah the old classic... With the timeless message that fat people are losers. [/quote] So red couldn't take it to the bridge after all. There's a lesson in that for all of us, I think you will agree.

[quote name='Jus Lukin' timestamp='1465411660' post='3068055'] Yup, drives me round the bend too. Unfortunately, they do know about squeezing info into short time frames, so an 'empty' bar or beat gets lopped out for the sake of brevity. It's actually a fairly clever way to pack your ad with just the strongest hooks of the song. Incidentally, the first place I heard All Right Now was on a chewing gum advert... [/quote] I appreciate that they're making it as short as possible but the extra half beat or beat could easily be fitted in and not extend the advert at all.

[quote name='thatgrantboy' timestamp='1464274254' post='3058125'] Much like what the Behringer AB-100 would allow then? (won't let me paste the link). Two inputs, a level adjustment on each, and the option to put them to the same out. Tis lower end of the market, but I'm sure there are higher-end options out there! [/quote] No, the AB100 doesn't work that way. If you A-B two inputs into one output, IIRC one of the level controls sets the level for both. If you A-B one input into two outputs, then you can set two different levels. Instructions: [url="http://www.rapidonline.com/pdf/35-4297.pdf"]http://www.rapidonline.com/pdf/35-4297.pdf[/url]

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1464636922' post='3061063'] Valve amps will distort with odd order harmonics which sound pleasant to the human ear. Transistor amps distort with even order harmonics which aren't. [/quote] That's the exact opposite of the truth. Valve amps contribute even-order harmonics which sound good (as they're octaves), transistor amps produce odd-order harmonics as they go into clipping - a square wave is the product of an odd-order series f + 3f/3 + 5f/5 + 7f/7... (the multiplier is the frequency, the divisor is the volume, hence 3f/3 is a third the volume and three times the frequency) which is why the odd-order harmonics are produced.

Small claims court? The police probably won't want to know but you could get the bailiffs in if necessary.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1464883790' post='3063522'] just got mine, doesn't seem to do anything that my zoom B1on doesn't do, still at this price I'll keep it, might come in handy for recording with, one thing though, what's with getting the numbers are wrong in the instructions? (there's no 10 on the diagrams) doesn't inspire confidence in quality control does it, and what's with those the switches on the sample settings and no blend or presence settings?, very confusing [/quote] I'm struggling to understand your meaning here. The PDF of the manual [url="https://media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0294/BDI21_P0294_M_EN.pdf"]https://media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0294/BDI21_P0294_M_EN.pdf[/url] has a number 10 (the input socket), the sample settings show all 6 knobs and no switches. Have you got the right instructions?

[quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1464790465' post='3062574'] the only time this doesnt apply of course, is if a massively key cog or massive character in the band leaves... for example, queen without freddy mercury is almost a parody of itself now, and thin lizzy without phil to me isn't thin lizzy. [/quote] Of course, when Alex Harvey left SAHB, they became "The Sensational Alex Harvey Band without Alex". That's telling it like it is.

[quote name='Deedee' timestamp='1464613199' post='3060772'] Interesting question. I was told that the angle of the head I.e. the angle it leans back away from the nut certainly makes a difference to the tension, so perhaps a reverse headstock would do the same. [/quote] The angle of the headstock will make absolutely no difference whatsoever to the tension on the string. Now, on to compliance. The speaking length of a string is (on a 34" scale bass) 865mm. On the bass which I happen to have to hand, the first tuner is 40mm from the nut, the next 40mm further, and the third another 40mm (it's 3/2 and also 35" scale but that's not really that important). So what we're looking at is how much we have to stretch the string by, and the variation we'd have in tension in order to play a note from one string to another. Measuring my plucking action, I deflect the string by up to 5mm. I suppose I should really divide this into two right-angled triangles but I couldn't be bothered, I'll approximate by finding the hypotenuse on a triangle with sides 865 and 5. And it's 865.01 mm. So the increase in string length is .01mm. Now, how does the tension change compare? Well, one string is being increased in length by .01mm in 945mm (40mm to the first tuner, 40mm from bridge saddle to tailpiece), and the other by .01mm in 1025mm (as for the first string plus another two tuners worth at 40mm/tuner). So we can eliminate the .01mm which is common to both and see that the ratio of tensions will be 1025:945 or 1.085:1. So one string will be 8.5% harder to deflect than the other. Mind you, you'll find at least that amount of variation in string tensions with string sets that aren't balanced tension (ie. almost all of them).

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1464620923' post='3060861'] If I can find the instruction book I'll also have a Boss drum machine for sale too. [/quote] You should be able to find it available for download on the Roland/Boss website.

Evidently we need to kick our guitarist's arse as he lives in Leicestershire and hasn't got us any gigs yet. Tamworth and Birmingham pubs pay £200-£250.

If I wasn't with a gigging band, I'd play guitar at home (or duetting with Mrs Zero) rather than bass.