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[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477377056' post='3161747'] No I'm saying to bring your existing kit up to match the RCF ones you would need to add subs. [/quote] Right, got it. I'm keeping an open mind on the situation as our drummer may be moving to an electronic kit, and our guitarist is having problems hearing some things, so no backline, PA only, and IEMs is a possible future route, but subs would be a PITA so it would be a case of moving over to something like the RCFs.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477301540' post='3161152'] There absolutely nothing wrong with that kit but if you were starting out with a blank canvas the cost wouldn't be that different [/quote] Two SRM450s = one RCF 735A. [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477301540' post='3161152'] you'd only need to buy a pair of active subs to add to your PA to bring the cost level and the volume level but you'd have two more big boxes to store and carry for each gig. If you don't need them then it's neither here nor there anyway. [/quote] I'm a little confused now. We'd need a pair of active subs as well as the RCF735s? Or as well as the SRM450s? I thought you just said the RCF 735s on their own would do the job. I really don't want to go for active subs too, they tend to weight rather more than Berg AE112s which they would effectively be replacing.

In our band, I [1] own the bits of PA that actually make the noise, the guitarist owns the rest - mixer and lots of outboard bits. SRM450s for vocal FOH and a bit of kick, Behringer D210s for vocal monitors. RCF 735s or 745s and no backline sound nice to have, but it means that someone has to find somewhere over a grand to do it. That's 20+ £50 a head gigs for me to finance them when what we've got works well. Maybe we're just so entertaining that the audience don't notice the sound deficiencies, because we haven't had any comments about poor sound quality since starting using the current setup a couple of years ago. [1] As I'm married to the vocalist and what's mine is hers, and what's hers is hers, the vocalist owns the PA.

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1477211653' post='3160491'] Name and shame or just let someone else fall into the trap... [/quote] How many hen nights would you expect the landlady to have?

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1476884373' post='3158088'] For those of you only using minimal PA - any of you using an SVT Classic with two large cabs as your bass backline? [/quote] God no. I want a decent sound.

Isn't it where EB get their toasted necks?

Would this make it easier to find, or harder? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222075735735"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222075735735[/url]

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1476033079' post='3150651'] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Excellent-Ashdown-Bass-Amp-And-Cab-1500-Watts-Collectively-With-Flight-Case-/131941885809"]http://www.ebay.co.u...e-/131941885809[/url] adding the cab to the peak output .. :-) [/quote] I think it's adding the amp's RMS and peak output - cab plus amp would be 1600W, so even more powerful! Obviously, the RMS output comes out of one socket and the peak output comes out of the other one.

Backline and vocal PA for us too. Logistically and financially it makes sense for us.

Sometimes it's what the song needs, sometimes it's what I think the song requires. The song is in no position to dictate. I generally play a reasonable approximation of the original, except when we're playing a song which has been covered by loads of people so we're taking the bits we like, when I get rather busy.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1475582611' post='3147055'] That's how musical exchanges in Birmingham was in 1990, and guess what, all those annoying kids grew up, got jobs and spent loads of cash in there just a few years later,my originals band must have spent nearly 10k in there over a few years. [/quote] It was like that in the 70s too. And in the old shop in Broad Street that burnt down, that I used to visit when I was a spotty schoolboy. Funnily enough, little Gary who works at PMT Birmingham used to work at Musical Exchanges back in the Broad Street days and then when they moved to Snow Hill. I remember him showing me photos of the fire damage and burnt guitars at the old shop, many years ago.

Just remembered, I meant to mention Gary Moore, a leftie who played right-handed and thought it gave him an advantage because his better hand was his fretting hand. This may be because when one looks back to classical guitar, the really complex bit is what the right hand does. The left hand is just being positioned in assorted patterns (simplifying vastly).

A guitarist I knew was a leftie who played (very well) right-handed. However, his handedness preyed on his mind, and he eventually bought a left-handed guitar and learnt to play left-handed too. Then, in a completely unrelated development, we played in a band together, and he threw himself into the canal on the day of our first gig. Well, I assume it was unrelated.

[quote name='Trueno' timestamp='1475320386' post='3144995'] The other side of the coin, which is another interesting side of this thread, is pushy parent syndrome. The aforementioned Trueno Major has proved to be a little pushy with his own progeny (imo). Happy medium, anyone? [/quote] I did start to whitter on about my nephew but decided against it. But I will now. My little sister's son plays guitar and she (and her current husband, his stepfather) encourages him. My little brother's son plays guitar, flute, keyboards, and drums. My brother (and his wife) encourages this. They're not being pushy though, in both cases, just supportive (although now I've introduced them to open mic nights near where they live in Falmouth, my nephew might get encouraged to go to them). My stepson, incidentally, has been encouraged but it's not a computer game so, despite there being guitars, basses, keyboards, and a violin in the house, he remains resolutely unproductive in a musical sense.

Seen in the Ebay section - there's a Squier VM fretless for £100 on Gumtree. [url="https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/squier-vintage-modified-fretless-bass-guitar/1190076168"]https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/squier-vintage-modified-fretless-bass-guitar/1190076168[/url] If you're somewhere near that, or the seller will post it, it could be a good bet.

"Inoffensive" is the word that came into my mind.

Or you could recut the nut and have a three-string bass for those with fat fingers.

Somewhere between options 2 and 4. Dad played piano to a good standard, mum had no musical ability whatsoever. Paid for violin lessons for me and piano lessons for my siblings (I wasn't interested in the piano). Didn't object to me playing the guitar or bass but didn't actively support it either. My parents saw me playing once, about five years ago, coming on for 40 years after I first picked up a guitar.

Are you based in Milwaukee?

It looks more convincing than almost every other relic job I've seen. I think the concept is ridiculous though. Why spend extra money in a bid to convince the world that you're a barbarian who shouldn't be entrusted with a bass, not even a Fender?

I forgot to mention, the bit of paper that comes with it - either no-one else has noticed that it says "USER MANAUL" or I have a rare version.

Mine has now turned up and been batteried. I do have a slight issue though.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1474303977' post='3136971'] I still like US models from all the big players, call me a snob but still feel short changed paying USA money for basses built elsewhere. [/quote] Even for Warwicks?

Why not just get a normal 6-string and not play below fret 2 on the top four strings? Works for me on 5-string.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1474405348' post='3137837'] We get asked for Sex On Fire more than anything by the Beatles at every gig we do. [/quote] We've been asked for Oasis two or three times but never the Beatles. We don't play anything by Oasis. From our setlist, Blondie, Bryan Adams, Fleetwood Mac and the Pretenders are twice as influential as the Beatles, The Who are three times as influential, and they're on level par with Chuck Berry and Steppenwolf.