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[quote name='derrenleepoole' timestamp='1317138735' post='1387257']A really interesting thread this. Surely if a venue/landlord hires a band, there is a certain level of expectation and understanding from both parties concerned about what makes good live music practice. There's only so much a band can do to play quietly if you're using acoustic drums for example. Even the quietest drummer in the world is restricted by simple physics: stick hits drums, drums make sound! I think if the request to play quiet was just too unreasonable, or more importantly 'unrealistic,' I would simply suggest politely to the landlord that the gig is cancelled, and walk away.[/quote] This. Always try to accommodate, of course, they're the boss etc and fair play. BUT if you have acoustic drums and are a certain type of act and the landlord is one of those ignorant muppets who's onle ever had acoustic acts in and doesn't get that drums can't just turn down infitessimally then walk. IME these also tend to be the same ones that have the jukebox way louder than the level they expect the band to play at. :-/

Ill be playing the cotswold inn on fri oct 14th with my covers band MyDesign. I sing and and play guitar in this band, and fellow basschatter Davemuadib is on bass. We do rocked up pop stuff like britney, gaga, bonnie tyler etc etc. Love to see some of you guys there Gaf

Fingers crossed. If I don't get my fix I get cranky

I simply can't use the site on my iPhone, it's desperately slow and unresponsive. Which is gutting as that where I'm visiting from pretty much the whole time. gutted.

Smallest was just the bar staff, (more than once) and the biggest have all been been 10,000 plus festivals and mahoosive venues.

Otoh I used exclusively monster cables for years and years and now only use obbm's and my sockets are as tight as they were when I was a teenager thank you very much

Paul bought a p bass bridge cover from me, a fast and easy transaction. Top stuff :0)

Totally top bloke who I'd deal with every ten minutes :0)

I've wanted one of those for years, I'm too skint I'm sure but If you did sell please do pm me first

No problem dude, sorry the attachments didn't copy, I'm sure someone will fix that. I've no interest in buying a TC amp, but I've still followed this with some interest, as there's been a few times I've run across amps I felt didn't seem to match the ratings.

Dunno if you guys have seen this yet Quote: Originally Posted by UKHTCE Hey guys, Thank you for your patience – you’ll need just a tad more of that to get through this very long post, so grab a coffee and a seat. First off, I realize that this answer should have come a few weeks back, so I apologize for not being faster to respond. There are a lot of questions, opinions and comments on these many pages but rather than trying to answer them all, I will try to give you some more background of how we designed the RH450 and also why we believe that 450 watts is indeed the most relevant rating of the amps’ performance. I think I’ve already established our initial target of designing an amp with great performance and sound for bass playing, while not being too focused on the bench measures. Here is a bit more background on our considerations. We’ve already talked about our Active Power Management technology and its ability to deliver bass relevant amplification and sound as well as higher energy levels than most other 450 watt amplifiers on the market. We also talked about how this is achieved through tight power control and, among other effects, lower peaks than a comparable 450 watt transistor amp. The BGM review confirms both of these findings; lower peaks, but more energy and density than the 500 watt benchmark amp used in the review. Our original findings in subjective tests and measurements concur with Toms findings as shown below in a comparison between a 500watt transistor amp (left graphs) and RH450 (right graphs) clearly indicating exactly these effects. Our internal analogy and inspiration for this has always been the performance of classic all-tube amps. attachment 1 Now, of course, the question here is why our amp only measures 236 watts in BGMs tests and yet we call it a 450 watts amps. Well, the other half of this design is that actual class D amp and powersupply module inside the amp. The raw power module inside the RH450 actually is capable of delivering 450watts RMS into a 4 ohm load, at bursts of 20ms with the APM disconnected. attachment 2Attachment 225541 Attachment 225542 [This Audio Precision (”AP”) measurement shows a 1kHz sinus burst (20 ms) that have a peak value of 60V, corresponding to 42.42Vrms  450W RMS in 4 Ohm] I don’t want to go into a long explanation of measurement setups, but I will underline that the 20ms are closely related to the natural decay of a bass peak signal and the crest factor of bass as discussed in the APM document. The measurement is of course reproducible, should someone want to take a stab at this. So, to sum up, we basically had the following dilemma when designing the RH450: On one hand we had a power module that would be able to supply 450 watts and measure correctly, but with all the downsides of potential hardclipping (as explained in the APM doc), lower average power and density and on the more subjective side; a less bass pleasing and musical sound and response. On the other hand we had our APM technology achieving great sound and bass performance (at least that’s what our subjective tests said), higher average energy than most comparable (and even a few higher rated amps) with a resulting higher perceived loudness, or ‘power’ if you will, than that of the clean 450 watt transistor performance. Yet, the clear downside, was that APM in a strict bench test would come out with the very odd 236watts result. So, we debated quite extensively what would be the most relevant rating for the amp; the bench test measure, or the real world performance measure (that corresponds to the actual power module inside). We chose the measure that we felt made more sense to the bass player and not to the engineer and went with the performance measure that also corresponds to the actual power of the module underneath the APM technology. Of course, in hindsight, I fully realize that we should have made a bigger fuzz about explaining this to our end-users and regret that we didn’t take on the task to explain this rather complicated matter at an earlier point in time. I sincerely apologize to those of you have felt that we have let you down in not doing so. A couple of other clarifications: Quasi peak watt: I saw that some of you noticed my comment on facebook using the ‘quasi peak watt’ phrase. Quasi peak is a term that we’ve used internally to relate to the perceived loudness or power. It stems from the Electro Magnetic Compliance world and aims at describing how a noise signal from one apparatus influences another based on how often and how big noise peaks occur. This somewhat correlates with how our ears respond to the loudness, average levels and peaks. Still, this simply made the whole thing even more confusing, bad call on my side, sorry. So what now? Well, we have definitely learned that we need to explain this whole power scheme in greater detail to ensure that no one feels that we didn’t give them the full story on this unique technology. Therefore, we will be adding a few articles in the style of the APM doc. To our website underlining how this all relates. You will probably see these come up within a weeks time or so. What about RH750 and Blacksmith then? Well, since we are at it let’s not wait for BGM to make another round of measurements, here are the facts: RH450: Raw power module: 450 watts rms, with APM: 236 watts rms, Spec rating: 450 watts RH750: Raw power module: 741 watts rms, with APM: 236 watts rms, Spec rating: 750 watts Blacksmith: Raw power module: 1512 watts rms, with APM: 924 watts rms, Spec rating: 1600 watts Finally, on a personal note, I have to say that the 450 watts rating of the RH450 IMHO does give you a much better feel for what this amp delivers during playing than the 236watts rms rating. Of course, this poses a huge question on what measurement(s) really are the most relevant to perform in order to give a bass player a solid indication of how his amp is going to play. As a bassplayer I wondered for years about the seemingly accepted terms of Tube watts being louder than transistor watts while the term ‘watts are watts’ also seemed to be a set rule. Even more so when I started playing various different bass amp brands and realized that the power rating even between two transistor amps where, by no means, the parameter to compare what I was actually going to get out of an amp in terms of performance when playing my bass. I hope this sheens some more light on the APM and RH450 case and again, I would like to apologize for both my lack of response and ability to explain this to you at an earlier point. I will keep a closer eye on this thread but please forgive me if I don’t respond to everything right away, my coming couple of weeks Uffe

Ooh forgot to say. The quality was top notch easily on a par With the white cij jazz streets ahead of many I've played and on a par with the geddy and Marcus basses I've owned too.

Muhahahah Glad you liked it dude, that bass really is something else. Lemmywinks, My proper fenders aren't transfers, they're real block necks. It's only the backups I do the stickers on. As far as i know the mighty mites come in pretty much a full range of p and j, maple and rosewood and dot/blocks. Mine was from bass parts resource. :0) It was ace to meet you dude.

I do like my stripes