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Monckyman

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  1. Load of crap, it's a tax loss/publicity stunt by the creator of Patrion. They make OK money from merch and other sales.Better tour profits would have significantly increased their tax liability. Far better to ensure people sleep, eat and get paid,than give it to the taxman.maybe they'll do it again..
    But apart from that, how can people be saying "does EVERY person on the tour need there own bed,No they don't it's wasteful"?
    f***ing yes they do if you want half a decent days work out of them.
    Not all bands are 17 year olds happy with a back seat in a van.

  2. $26k on equipment in lights road cases and backline. Ok they have to have a van and trailer to get about, and lights probably aren't cost effective to buy,but cases and backline ought to be a one off expense, at least for 4 or 5 tours.
    Otherwise that seems about right, on the wages as well.

  3. Agree Mackie DL1608 if you like ipads, but if so, wait for the new Behringer X-air18 as stated above, it's rrp is about £500 has the x32 engine so good eq and fx, etc, the ipad app is very easy to use, it does 18 inx18 out recording on usb and takes very little space up.I've done many shows now on my Soundcraft SI Expresion without touching the desk, and use the ipad for everything.
    Using an ipad is very quick and intuitive, and there are no layers, to worry about, it's all very analogue in feel.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrlSyAD-dVs
    I'll be getting one for pubs and medium gigs.

  4. I also organise my lot
    The drummer helps with logistics and planning etc,and is always there for load outs and ins,unlike the singer and guitarist but I;
    Supply and drive the van,
    Provide,assemble and operate the P.A, which consists of a Soundcraft SI 1 or 3, into a Bill Fitzmaurice DR250/Titan39 rig with qsc amps,and 4 stereo in ear systems, all mics, D.Is, cables and stands.( and (that's every rehearsal when it needs putting back together after a gig, and every gig after packing it away after a rehearsal,and that's if nothing needs fixing or replacing).
    Supply, rig, and program the lights with my truss,par cans, scanners, smoke machine and small DMX desk.
    Create and operate the backing tracks we use, using my Macbook/logic and iPad,in my studio.
    Record and produce any promotional recordings we need.
    Manage the band kitty and pay the bills on the rehearsal room, clean and organise the rehearsal room,
    Manage the sub letting of the room to offset our outgoings and do DIY improvements like shelving curtains chairs, kitchen items , fridge and a microwave.
    Pay for the web hosting for the website, manage the facebook and Northwestbands accounts. Run the online diary.
    Oh yes, I play bass and sing as well.
    And work as a freelance engineer.

    My lot are lucky, as I operate a small hire company and they get the benefit because for me, it has to look and sound as good as possible, but I also keep telling them that turning up on time and playing their chosen instrument is the minimum they are expected to do, if they want to be part of a reasonably well run and profitable band.
    So to the OP. don't tolerate laziness from your partners, otherwise you will end up carrying all the responsibilities,make no money and eventually end up destroying the band out of resentment.

  5. You say 50% is unacceptable,but what is that 50% of on average?
    If you only make £400 a gig then half that for an engineer, a rig, transport etc, is actiually well below average.
    What you aren't factoring in is his skill, and what he does while you are playing,to enhance your bands earning potential.
    It sounds to me like you ought to be asking more per gig than trying to cut back on your production.
    I suggest you think a bit more about how much it will cost you to match what he does, and how long it will take you to pay for it.

  6. I love playing music, but I loathe somebody making money out of that without factoring me in.
    Nobody sells hundreds of pints of beer to a crowd watching someone scuba dive.
    The pay for pub gigs has remained stagnant for a decade and is a scandal.
    Having said that, you all know this before you do it, so if you want more cash, do the wedding/party thing (and there's nothing wrong with that), or if you do it as a hobby/love of it then stop weeping and get on with it.
    You will never justify the cost in equipment, time, domestic stress etc anyway.

  7. I have sympathy with Daltreys argument.
    Yes you can compare the sugary bollox from the 60s and 70s to One direction/Cowell inc,that stuff is always there for the children or party goers,but lately I struggle to find those artists who do express political opinions, or controversial attitudes.
    Maybe it's rose tinted glasses but all the people I listened to in the 80s had something to say other than about sex or materialism.
    You may point at hip hop and say there you go, but I don't believe hip hop has been relevant for 20 years and wasn't particularly relevant to me either.
    So, Morrissey, Oasis,John Lydon, rage against the machine,Trent Rez or Henry Rollins,love em or hate em, you have an opinion, on their opinions.
    What about Coldplay or Kings of Leon?
    Is it a fashion thing?
    Is having an "opinion" unfashionable?

    Let's have a Mozzer quote,
    "no,it's just more lock jawed pop stars thicker than pigshit,nothing to convey...they're so scared to show intelligence,it might smear their lovely career"

  8. Agree with JT above, but...Engineer or not out front, that backline still needs to be balanced and nobody onstage has the faintest idea how it sounds out front using either method.
    I prefer everything in the P.A, and have steered my bands equipment that way with a slightly larger P.A, but less backline.
    As an engineer, I want more control over FOH levels, and that means quieter backline, I did a 5 band festi type gig last week and the biggest problem was the massive
    Ampeg rig all the bassists loved playing through, but I couldn't balance the mix, because whatever I did, there was simply too much bass guitar.
    it was very very loud, and asking, then telling the bassist to turn it down to acceptable levels got the stock phrase "but I can hardly hear it now",to which I replied, yes, but then you can hardly hear anything now because you've just had that thing on full a couple of feet away.
    So my theory is, balancing the rig when that DOESN'T involve telling someone the volume they just got used to onstage is too loud,ie:(pulling a fader on the FOH mixer) is a far easier option.
    I also find it next to impossible to get a decent vocal monitor setup when you have to compete with a backline that's being used to fill the venue, yet is only a meter away.
    When the band know everything is in the P.A, they are a lot more relaxed about "being heard in the mix,man".
    Having said all that, many people get great results using JTs method, and save the P.A for the vox.

  9. [quote name='spacey' timestamp='1409578351' post='2541059']
    When I get £6000 a week wages like charity executives I'll think about it and that is very bottom end in the salary brackets.
    Personally when you are in a band you get sick to death of been chugged.
    Musicians need to eat and pay rent as well.
    [/quote]
    This.
    Charity fads are massive tax free swindles.
    The CEO of this particular mob is on £300k

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