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[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1301220' date='Jul 12 2011, 04:09 PM']Warwick, ffs. I mean: 'Sneezy' Kleinmann - Schneeweis / Sieben Kleine Manner Bodo Notwendig - Lederhosen Krisis Luigi Pepperoni - Salsiccia Putzi Hanfstaengl - Berlin Backroom Boys Donatella Panatella - The Girl With The Big Ear-rings Non-entities, all of them.[/quote] I think between Luigi Pepperoni, The Berlin Backdoor Boys and the Girl with the Big 'ear-rings' warwick could make quite the adult film...
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[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1300990' date='Jul 12 2011, 01:32 PM']I doubt most originals bands would want it to be the same...[/quote] Some money instead of none?
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[quote name='Machines' post='1300966' date='Jul 12 2011, 01:22 PM']Amusing to me was a BGM article where a bass was reviewed by one of the brands endorsing players. Unsurprisingly not a bad word was said against it, nor a declaration of authors links to the brand.[/quote] One of the many reasons I decided to stop renewing my subscription a couple of years back.
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When I see some company's list of artists or endorsees, it's frequently populated by names I've never heard of, with a few I have. Now I'm by no means the most musically cultured or knowledgeable chap here. But I am surprised how many people get endorsements. If I was running the company, my bottom line would be, will the amount this endorsement is costing me be at the very least reimbursed by subsequent sales as a direct result. I have to say that I think much of the time this would be no, for a few reasons: • The majority of live music venues suck to the point where the bass is a rumble, and even if the sound is fairly good, I'd say it's rare you'd be able to really nail down the bass tone to the point where you wanted to buy or even try what the bassist is using - particularly if it is the amp or pedals or anything other than the bass, which are occasionally/usually hidden from display. • Say you like the bass work in the studio. I know many of us are gear nerds, but virtually no player publishes their exact set up they use for a recording anywhere for the public to find, and there is always the question of what the engineer/producer has done to the sound after the bass, pedals, amps etc have all done their work. I think these reasons mean that sales as a result of artist endorsements aren't that high, and that more often than not the artist (excluding the mega-rockstars) is getting a pretty good deal out of getting cheaper/free gear.
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[quote name='chris_b' post='1300880' date='Jul 12 2011, 12:30 PM']Don't start with the "original bands are better than covers bands" crap, please![/quote] I wasn't saying they were any better or worse, but learning someone else's material undoubtedly takes less time and effort than writing and arranging your own to a standard at which you are happy to put it up for public scrutiny. So purely on a basis of time spent, it would be fairer for the originals bands to be earning more. In my book a good covers band deserves every penny they get and more, why shouldn't they get a portion of the take they provide the bar with the punters they bring, it's just a shame that's not the same with the originals world, is all I was saying.
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[quote name='Dubs' post='1300854' date='Jul 12 2011, 12:09 PM']I can see what you mean - as an originals band it'd be great and a lot more than I'd be expecting - we usually play for free!! As a good covers band it seems like a pretty raw deal - covers sets, whilst fun, do feel like work, and when you're putting on a good show and everyone in the place is loving it, you should be paid properly for it... IMO.[/quote] Perhaps, though I play music for enjoyment, not for work, and whilst many guys play in covers bands to supplement their income, I'd argue it's a bonus to play for pay, but you should just be happy to be playing music to people who are enjoying it. Being in a covers band has the ease of the fact that if you're good, you should get decent turnouts - good and gig turnout are distinctly not related in the originals world. Surely a big reason a cover band will frequently get a good audience is because they're playing songs they haven't written, it's covers which are hopefully familiar to the audience, if anything I'd argue they deserve less for a gig on that basis!
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South East Bass Bash No.5, Surrey, Saturday 24th September 2011
dc2009 replied to silverfoxnik's topic in Events
[quote name='mcgraham' post='1300707' date='Jul 12 2011, 10:17 AM']Non-stop extended periods of slaping can be tolerable... when tasteful, non-repetitive and at an acceptable volume. It's when it's not tasteful/poor, exceedingly repetitive with the same riffs over and over, and at ear deafening volume that I start to consider self-harming as a more enjoyable alternative,[/quote] I was trying a bass out the other day and after giving it a lot of fingerstyle work I really wanted to try how it slapped as it felt as if it had amazing potential. I'm no good in general, particularly not at slapping, but didn't want to seem like I was showing off in the middle of the store. Such a predicament! In the end I just turned the bass right down and slapped away, and it was great too, but I had to stop quickly before I felt like too much of a knob. -
[quote name='Dubs' post='1300794' date='Jul 12 2011, 11:26 AM']Sounds like your problem is with the bands and not the deal? As has been said above, a decent band will get a good fee and won't need to consider a deal like this.[/quote] I was wandering off topic, surprised that any bands are offered this kind of money! Not got a comment on the deal really, other than I'd be happy to take it.
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[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1300761' date='Jul 12 2011, 11:12 AM']Yep. 'Round our way, lots of people just go to their local. Some people travel to see bands, but I'd say more fall into the former category. And then... some pubs have a reputation for only having good stuff on (by and large). They tend to get bigger crowds.[/quote] This all seems reasonable and understandable. Never been a massive fan of most music most covers bands play if I'm honest (or at least the ones I've seen). Nothing bad about it, just too far before my time for me ever to have been a fan, and consequently only having a vague knowledge of the songs means I'm rarely interested. Perhaps cover bands in 20 years time will be playing Foo Fighters and Muse. That'll be good :-) (not massive fans of either but it's music I know).
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Having never played in a covers band, though having seen a few, this is all very interesting to me. JTUK you mentioned people going to a certain place because they know of the music quality they are likely to get. Maybe its a scene I've never been a part of, but I can't say I've ever met anyone who is going to a certain venue in order to experience whichever live act they have on that night - or do these people exist in their droves and just in different circles to my own? IME people go to a venue to see a specific band they know is playing. The only time I've ever seen covers bands are when they happen to be on in a venue I've gone into, and even then you only stay if a) they're any good, you're happy to not be able to talk to the people you have come there with.
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I assume you're talking about a covers band? I play in an originals band and we'd be more than chuffed with someone offering us money up front. Our only paid gigs coming up are entirely proportional to the door take, and they're not all that generous.
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[quote name='Crikey!' post='1300543' date='Jul 12 2011, 01:50 AM']it is indeed. Very much not for sale. Sorry.[/quote] Understood, sir. Best of luck with the rest -
Is that a russian muff pi I spy? I guess that one isn't up for sale?
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I think i've semi-knackered mine, don't suppose you're any good at fixing this kinda thing? -
Nice to meet you, Andy. Hope you spend some good times here. If you need a 5er then I'll be more than happy to give some advice, but I'll give you three guesses as to what are the first three I'd recommend
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I'll audition if that's ok. It's dependent on a few things though, and perhaps I'm not ideal. I'm into the first three bands there, and love my metal, though I can't say I'm particular fans of the rest, and don't even know two of them. I'm 20, and not naturally a pick bassist but certainly can be for the right kind of project, as I appreciate the tone and image it brings. I think playing the thunderbird (the reverse bodied one) with a pick will fit this band quite well. I'd very much like to try out, just to see whether this is workable or not. I do have another, gigging band, who are not particularly to my musical tastes, though I won't leave them in the lurch with upcoming gigs, and am in no hurry to quit if it's not necessary. I live in West Brompton (some sh1theap sandwiched between Earl's Court and Fulham). I have my own gear a plenty but do not have my own transport, so other than TFL I would be stuck. Practicing as close to me as possible would be ideal. I assume the rest of the band have transport given your stipulation, and my area isn't too congested and is seriously easy to get to if going to or from gigs/practices. If you guys are still looking, an audition might be a good start. Even if I'm not the ideal candidate it doesn't hurt to try out, you never know it might turn out better than expected, and I'm probably willing just to be a stop gap and help you out with a few gigs etc until you find that guy that fits the bill perfectly. EDIT, just read the driving license bit. I have a provisional, with a view to getting qualified at some point, but money isn't exactly flowing great, if I had a string a of paid gigs I'd be more than willing to invest the money into that (I've had plenty of lessons a few years back but gave up after the expense got too much).
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SOLD Hartke 4X10 Transporter Cab SOLD
dc2009 replied to trubshaw75's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
someone buy this bargain! you could team it up with the ha5000 on here, and another hartke to make a monstrous full stack for not much dough good luck with the sale mate, i'd have it myself if i had any use for it... -
[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1300312' date='Jul 11 2011, 09:13 PM']Can't speak for the Ashdowns, but I remember depping a guitar gig in the 80's where the bass player was running a pair of 8 x 6" cabs. V-fronted with 4 either side of the join. Sixteen 6" speakers ffs. Weirdest thing I ever saw, probably home-made. He fired it up and it was just [i]savage[/i] Can't recall what amp he was using. Old age, y'see. As for the OP, I'd say get an old Peavey head to match. Cheap as chips, it'll cover you for the while and give you a benchmark. When you've made your mind up, chop in the Peavey rig here and start shopping.[/quote] It's bizarre that 16x6" is just two of my marshall, but awful. My marshall is also for sale in the relevant section (shameless plug ) As for your suggestion, I think you're correct. Peavey stuff is super cheap on here, fleabay or gumtree, even freeads they turn up often enough!
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If it's worth something, sell it, if it isn't don't. I have a Dean (not a bad one either - Bartolini pups) and a Crafter (my first bass). They don't ever get played and thus don't make my sig, but there's no point selling for all of the £100 they'd raise collectively, it's just not worth it.
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Right guys, my Hartke combo should be arriving tomorrow so here is my Marshall cab up for sale. I'm hanging onto the Trace for now but I may realise I don't need it at some point, so any interested in that can PM me if they wish. The basics: • Bought off here for [s]£250[/s] [b]SOLD[/b], I would like to see that back, please, and it's fairly non-negotiable (I'm in no hurry to sell), given it has only seen bedroom playing in that time (4 months). Delivery will be extra (I mean ParcelFarce or equivalent, I'm not delivering it!), though you can pick it up from central London (SW6) for nowt and there'll be a cup of tea thrown in with that (see my feedback for my tea making credentials, or buying/selling reliability, whichever suits). • These are currently £510 new and that is the cheapest you will find a new one in the UK (GAK etc have just dropped the prices down from £550). • This cabinet is rated 400W at 4 ohms, this means that it will take the majority of heads in use today, and that you will not need (nor would you want) another cab to get anymore oomph from your amp. - If you are unsure of what works with your head or how this will suit it then don't hesitate to ask, I don't mind explaining! • It has four 12" speaker cones, this is bigger than your average 4x10 (for better bass), but isn't restricted to the muddy booming of a 1x15. This results in a serious wall of sound. This thing is LOUD. You'll never struggle for volume in a gig, but still produces beautiful sounds at low levels for practicing. I think it sounds great and IMO it works really well with a trace head, which is fairly par for the course, as amps go. I believe the previous owner used both Marshall and Ampeg heads through it at times, so it's a versatile beast. • It's 49kg, that puts it on the heavier side, but it is perfectly easy to carry between two people with the comfortable handles which are firmly embedded in the side of the thing. I lugged it up 3 and a half flights of stairs when I bought it so it's not all that bad. • The previous owner fitted his own set of castors to the bottom as the Marshall ones were useless. These things are sturdy and as robust as anything. • There is some minor Tolex damage to the edges (not caused by me). I superglued the material back flush (in two very small locations), I reckon some black nail varnish over the crack where the small tears were would render it damn near invisible. Great condition besides that! • The science: according to Marshall "it features two separate sealed chambers which help to prevent unwanted cabinet resonance while adding to the structural integrity of the unit. It is also lined with sound absorbent wadding to further help dampen internal resonance." Any questions or for more pictures, please don't hesitate to ask, Thanks, Dan P.S. My Trace head and tuner are NOT included in the price, just to make that abundantly clear.
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Might be interested in the flight case if you can do it separately. How much would you want for it? Nice amp too, hope it sells well. -
[quote name='Panamonte' post='1300197' date='Jul 11 2011, 07:22 PM']No pics, no Pierrot... [/quote] you know the rules, silddx.... ;-)
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[quote name='alexclaber' post='1300116' date='Jul 11 2011, 05:32 PM']I've written quite a bit on this, which can be found in the technical info and BGM articles sections of the Barefaced website. Regarding music/hi-fi shop technical expertise, I've yet to come across a single member of staff that really understands what they're talking about - that doesn't mean there aren't any out there but the fact is that audio and acoustics is rarely intuitive and so what seems obvious and passes into guitar shop folklore is usually wrong![/quote] Will give that stuff a read either tonight, or more likely tomorrow in work. Thanks!
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the audience look bored as sin, it was a bit slow to start as well, if anything he was injecting some energy into the performance which is more than can be said for the others. regardless of the type of music, if you just sit there and play you might as well just not bother playing live and your audience can save money and just listen on cd IMO
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[quote name='xgsjx' post='1300003' date='Jul 11 2011, 03:27 PM']But the problem with the so called "perfect stack", is snake oil. A 4x10 will have a much narrower dispertion as there are vertically aligned drivers pushing soundwaves against each other & adding a different sized driver just adds another problem with different sized soundwaves bouncing off one another. One venue it'll sound great & then another venue with the same settings will sound awful. Keeping all the same sized drivers means you'll get a more consistent sound & stacking them vertically means you'll get a much better dispertion (there's several topics on mixing cabs already). +1 on going to a store. -1 on listening to their "technical" knowledge/sales patter.[/quote] I believe my marshall is separate chambered to avoid this wave malarkey you are on about. I'm very good with understanding of waves/this type of thing though my knowledge of this particular area is pretty much nil, if you could point me towards some good links it'd be appreciated, technical ones aren't a bother either (I am meant to be an engineer after all). As for listening to their technical knowledge I think it depends where you go and who you talk to. Some people are knowledgeable, some are just salesmen, some are both and others neither. Some tips: 1) Don't bother listening to anyone that isn't a bass specialist, (or they at least need some serious experience of playing bass) 2) The way to not soak up sales patter is just to listen to the facts: if they say it's a 500W head at 4ohms with 4 tubes, it probably is (or at least something very close). If they say, it sounds great, ignore them and make up your own mind. 3) Pick a set up as close to your own as you can. If you can manage it or get a lift, take your own cab in! Use a bass similar to your own or take your own in. You won't be able to control the room size and dynamics, but then you can't do that in different live environments, so make sure you test the versatility! 4) If you've got those funds in cash you hold an advantage, don't be afraid to try gear up to £500 if you have the cash. Many people pay on card these days, and you might be able to talk them down if you have the cash in hand there and then.