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[quote name='stuckinthepod' timestamp='1431608378' post='2773129'] Hi all, I'm feeling this thread has turned pretty bad and I'm not happy about that. I would like to take the time to address a few points and draw a line under this if people are willing. Stuckinthepod [/quote] Thank you - good post. I agree with your opening statements and wish to draw a line under this too. (And I'm glad that your bass is OK and that you are enjoying it. ) Jazzneck.
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PM sent, Mick - it's a copy of discussion between Bassface2k10 and me re strings and we would like your input, please.
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Calling The Greek - please check your PMs Ithangyoo
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[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1431593623' post='2772845'] [b]How was that the OP's fault? He simply raised a complaint as he saw fit. No influence over the MD's decisions from there on. And how exactly was firing the driver the only outcome? I'm as surprised as anyone that the complaint resulted in a termination of employment but that's the fault of the company, not the OP. Your repeated guilt-tripping of the OP is becoming unpleasant. I suggest you have a look at your interests underneath your profile pic and re-think before you post again. [/quote][/b] Is this "Mischief! Mischief! MISCHIEF!!!"[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Cosmo?[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif].[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Point taken, and I will now shut up as it was [/font][b][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]not [/font][/b]an attempt at trolling or guilt-tripping, just honest comments and opinion on the basis that IMHO some people do not think through the results of their actions before carrying them out. [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Over and out. [/font]
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Sorry people, my final stupid questions which I should have asked in the first place. How did the OP expect his bass to be delivered as per laid down procedures if there was nobody at home to receive it and sign for it? I take it that he was checking the tracking information and would have a rough idea when delivery was expected? Why didn't he contact PF [b]in advance[/b] as I have done many times, to arrange delivery or collection accordingly?
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[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1431586296' post='2772747'] I think this is a harsh judgement for someone doing a fairly menial job. Surely fraud is where someone has gained financially. The person who has gained is the OP who has got his goods, albeit in an unconventional manner. No one on this forum likes the idea of basses of all things being left unattended and at the mercy of the elements, but I think things need to be put into perspective, the bass was not damaged, not stolen and delivered on-time. All the bad things we talk about did not happen. Maybe the driver is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't and It's a pity this was not an opportunity for education and training. [/quote] +1M. Why, oh why, did this have to be escalated instantly by e-mailing the MD? Yes, the delivery man did not follow the rules and it may not be his first offence - I'll concede that. What I have difficulty in understanding is why in the world did the OP slam this incident all over a forum in the public domain before complaining to PF and Thomman? All the OP succeeded in doing was putting the MD in a position where he could only make one decision - fire the driver. (Well done, son.) I wonder if the drivers local ops. manager has been sanctioned as well?. Please, ladies and gents, all I ask is that before you fly off the handle in public you consider the result of your actions, too.
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Thanks to Mr. Apple I'm now submitting my original post, edited for personal insults, for completeness of the thread. [b]Please read it as if posted at 5:32PM today.[/b] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Great stuff, so a guy is now out of a job.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Has anyone of you considered the fact that he might have a young family and he's their only breadwinner?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Why the heck didn't you just [b]talk[/b] to someone (you can telephone and get connected directly to the depot manager - details on Parcelforce website), preferably the driver or his immediate supervisor as I have done in a similar situation.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]He would have probably got a rollicking and something to think about in the future.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I give up - w[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]hy does everybody have to escalate every tiny problem in this world to the stratosphere and demand ACTION?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Try and be reasonable for once.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]You got an undamaged bass delivered to your door probably by a guy who was trying to be helpful and he got sacked for his pains.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]And I'm not being ironic. [/font][/color]
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[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1431539534' post='2772416'] I'm taking out insulting posts on this thread as insults between members will not be tolerated. Anymore and I'll be delivering this to the bin. [/quote] Billy, will you be a gent? Please PM [b]my[/b] [b]full original post, 5:32pm,[/b] which you have deleted so that I can edit it and repost it without the insults , please?
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[quote name='stuckinthepod' timestamp='1431536699' post='2772375'] Wrong. Lodged a complaint via their official complaints function on their website because I could complain via the phone. [b][size=6]I also then copied in their MD on an email to Thomann a day later.[/size][/b] [/quote] I now refer you to your own post below which, to me, reads differently. [quote name='stuckinthepod' timestamp='1431514445' post='2772032'] Hi all, This is the reply from ParcelForce. [size=6][b]I emailed their MD directly[/b][/size]. [/quote] ... so stop wriggling and distorting your story - the bloke lost his job.
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[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1430680814' post='2763682'] No good. Tried it. Front ported. [/quote] Missionary position, then?
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[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1431527573' post='2772260'] [b]Attending:[/b] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]TheGreek[/font][/color] - [i]Ritter Cora/ GB Rumour/ Mesa Walkabout[/i] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Grangur[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Lozz196[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Sibob [/font][/color]- [i]My '71 P-Bass has a Rosewood fingerboard/My P/J has a Pau Ferro fingerboard / My MGS has a Kingwood fingerboard[/i] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Seashell[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Bassface2k10[/font][/color] - [i]MM Ray with Maple board[/i] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ratman(?)[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Bottle[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Happy Jack - [i]Mike Lull Thunderbird + 1965 Mosrite 'The Ventures'[/i][/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Bluejay[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Jazzneck - [i]pre EB MM Stingray with Rosewood board[/i][/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Gary Mac[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Sharkfinger[/font][/color] theyellowcar such - [i]Marcus jazz with Sadowsky preamp. Maple fretboard [/i](and friend with 5-string Maruszczyk jazz) Bikenbass -[i] Ibanez fretless and Dingwall Combustion[/i] Barkin (?) Ordep - [i]zon sonus 5, and possibly a modulus VJ.[/i] (and a couple of bassist friends [?]) timhiggins (?) hertsbass - [i]maple neck Fender P[/i] Bassace - [i]Double Bass[/i] EliasMooseblaster - [i]Hagstrom 8-string[/i] Macdaddy - [i]Iceni custom 4 string[/i] [/quote] Sorry, couldn't cut and paste but I've added the bass I'm bringing with me as above.
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It's OK Lozz, it's just that my son found this bass for me a while ago after I told him that his one was no good coz it had a maple board. He gets very touchy on the subject - you know what you youngsters are like.......
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[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1431369354' post='2770620'] Great, so the basses we have so far are: Maple Precision/Lozz196 Rosewood Precision/Seashell Rosewood [s]EB[/s]MM Stingray/Jazzneck [/quote] Fixed it for you, Lozz.
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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I'll bring my pre EB Stingray with a rosewood board if you'se want to add it to the list.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]It will be polished and it will also have a new battery fitted in anticipation. [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color]
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I'll bring my pre EB Stingray with a rosewood board if you'se want to add it to the list. It will be polished and it will also have a new battery fitted in anticipation.
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[quote name='Christian Houmann' timestamp='1430639313' post='2763191'] Anyone wants to sell their limelight P bass to me [/quote] Sorry Christian, no chance - best bass I've ever had.
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Bert, the Elgen standard colour was the raspberry tolex with pink face plate / grey silver cloth in those early days. Like this: [attachment=191097:elgen 002.jpg] Did you get round to The Nags Head for a pint whilst you were there? Scene of The Blues Loft where we saw everyone from Howlin' Wolf to Blodwyn Pig in those heady days. And it was where I met Mrs. Jazzneck all those years ago, too.
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[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1430604709' post='2763079'] Or - barefaced - so good they actually make you pregnant.... [/quote] ...but you should have used the condom from Roqsolid. I'm outta here..............
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[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1430494225' post='2762047'] I've no idea where they were made, but the pickups in my '63 J sounded incredible - far better than any other J I've owned. And I've owned a lot... [/quote] Same as on my Limelight Precision from Mark - exactly the same comments as WOT.
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[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1430560706' post='2762567'] It's my somewhat idiosyncratic Red Iron custom, with mods by Champ Electronics. 2x6SL7 in the pre and 2xKT88s in the power. It has a lovely core tone, pretty clean but smooth and gritty when you dig in. Filthy and creamy when driven by a hot bassy signal. I made the case myself, TBH it photographs nicely but is a tad shonky in the flesh ☺ It's not being used much at the moment as my current band requires mega clean with lots of headroom, but will come out again as soon as something rockier/blusier comes along. [/quote] That head looks great and a tad familiar - PM is on its way.
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[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1430561272' post='2762572'] I wonder how they were running a pair of KT88 to get a 40 watt rated amp out of them. Most instrument amps seem focussed on wringing all the available output out of the valves, so was this more of a conservative, hi-fi sort of design? This could be interesting... [/quote] Interesting point. Tony, Mr. Elgen, designed and built the amp and I was the guinea pig. I used it in anger at High Wycombe Town Hall where, in a three piece band, I only needed to set the volume at about 1.5. I commented that it was bl**dy loud for only 40Watts. A few days later Tony set up a Marshall 100W on his 'scope and calibrated said 'scope to show 100W of Marshall clean, just on the point of distortion. Against this calibration the Elgen showed iro 135Wish clean, just on the point of distortion. Interesting, eh? I don't know how he did it but it was one hell of an amp. [quote name='bertbass' timestamp='1430567751' post='2762684'] I remember Elgen very well. Went to their factory to buy a 100w valve P.A. amp and it was superb. I always wanted an Elgen bass amp but could never afford it. [/quote] It was a great little business with some fascinating characters working there making some really good kit. Was Tony still charging £1/watt in your day? In 1968, a 100W head would have cost the equivalent of £1623.60 in today's money. My take home pay then was £5/10/6 a week equivalent to £89.70 per week today.