HazBeen

Well yes actually a Juno is actually more correct. But we agree on it being 80’s oriented. And that is precisely not what floats my boat, whilst it inspires others. Let me make one thing clear, the tracking on both the FI or C4 is very good, certainly not far off the SY300 I had, the better your technique the better the tracking btw so results may vary. For my ears they also sound a bit warmer probable due to them being monophonic. But the great thing is: we have choices! Hurrah to bass.

Maybe @Al Krow can loan you his for a few days?

Spent some more time with the C4 today. I am liking it a lot. Tried some of your patches as well @Quatschmacher, some are truly gems. Been mainly focussing on splitting some of the key sounds I use between the FI and the C4. With upcoming Faithless tribute gigs booked I reckon I will be getting plenty use out of both

@Al Krow tracking not being flawless is not any issue. It never was an issue on my OC2, the FI nor is it an issue on the C4. It gives the pedals character and you very quickly are able to work with not against their quirks. Having had experience with the SY-1s bigger brother I can say it is a very different approach to a bass synth pedal than the FI or C4. Very 80s/DX-7-ish and whilst it did track better than any of the above it just didn’t inspire me at all. I am sure the SY-1 is a really great pedal for some, but not for everyone.

Like many “this bass is this or that” threads to me it seems we are overlooking what actually makes up a large portion of your sound, your fingers and where you hit the string. Whatever bass I play, it will always sound like me and any 1 pickup bass (be it a P or Ray) has many different sounds in it by changing your technique.

In my very short experience - as yet - with the C4 I think may actually track a fraction better than the FI with the current firmware. It is splitting hairs, but I was doing some AB-ing of sounds (as you do :)..) and I felt it was just a fraction better. But I have not tried it with different basses, a million patches etc. so Herr Quatschmacher is probably the better judge. Comparing the two is very difficult as they clearly are trying to achieve different things. The FI is intended as a full fat synth that is invinitely tweakable, the C4 I feel has been developed to be easy to use and excels in a smaller ‘bandwidth’ for lack of a better term. To me it is more like a Micro Korg, just totally excellent in many ways but not in as may ways as the FI is (which has ADSR, better sustain, more oscillators, separate LFOs for every oscillator which I do not think the C4 has.... not sure though, need to spend more time with it). So fun, ease of use, size all very nice on the C4, FI the MacDaddy of bass synth pedals. But you do not always want or need the MacDaddy. Hope that makes sense, and I want to reiterate that I am only just getting into the C4.

Current large (non Helix) board....

So got mine yesterday, since all music stores were out of stock I ordered from Bassbudhda in Denmark. Decent price, good service BTW. I tend to favour small specialist shops where I can (like BassDirect, Bassmatters etc) so good to have an addition to the mix. Anyway, what a genuinely excellent buy. I am amazed at the tracking and the simplicity of the Neuro app/tweaking as well as the small footprint. Can it replace an FI? No, but it is a very welcome addition to the synth pedal family and between the FI and C4 I cannot think of a synth sound I could not get. Well done Source Audio....... !!

Just get the Warwick stuff, lasts forever and is not too expensive. https://www.dv247.com/en_GB/GBP/Warwick-Surface-Finisher-Beeswax-/art-ACC0000334-000

Whilst anticipation is high in most (certainly in me) bassists, I think everyone gets that quality takes time. And I have the C4 to play around with until then anyway.... lol Keep up the good work, and stress levels low

Few weeks.... getting there!

Maybe I have big hands, but I’ve never felt the edge on any bass I’ve owned to be an issue. Interesting to see some basses that have such rounded edges.

My sister had that record..... my first intro into Dweezil Zappa

It didn't sound particularly good and the 32"scale was a bit odd, but I very much regret selling it. It is just so Miami Vice.

Circa 1989 Squier Katana (the only bass in the store I could afford). Bass in pic is not mine, but it was same colour and just so beautifully ugly I wanted to share. Amp I believe was a 15w Park (jr. Marshall) bass amp, later in the year replaced by a Peavey TNT with Black Widow

Agreed, because he is more “sparse” the effect is greater. We should also not forget these guys are in their fifties now, so less angry more reflective is totally logical.

True 😂

Now boys, we are all grown ups

Interesting thread, some comments more interesting than others. Bottom line to me is just how personal compression is (I firmly believe there is no RIGHT, but there are WRONGS when it comes to compression), that a well done DBX160 based comp is a great tool (my personal favourite, who needs a Urei :)..) and that sound engineers generally suck

Ooh, must catch up. I always enjoy a good tiff

Both the Bassist and FI feel at home on the continent

I know who bought the Compiq recently

One of my gigs is "Grunge Garden Presents" where we do tributes to bands we love (Nirvana, Pearl Jam, RATM and others). We did on outdoor festival on Saturday, it was a lovely location, great weather and great crowd so thought I'd just share a "snippet" made from iPhone recordings. Enjoy