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check the rating of any electrical components i dont know how to do it with meters but i am sure it can be measured by the gain ratio an amp will put out a multiple of what is fed into it and reaches its max usable is when it starts to clip at around 1%

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='402094' date='Feb 6 2009, 03:45 PM']As you have experienced, TIs are low tension and remain low tension through the body. I'm not actually convinced that through-body really makes more difference than a psychic medium could tell. And yes I love my ADP (with flats).[/quote] the tension in any string is the same no matter how its anchored...its a mathematical and physical fact...for any pitch the string has to be at a certain tension what happens with break angles is that the tension is increased due to vectors and extra load is put on the nut/saddles in a downward direction with through body stringing this load on the saddles is enormous but is transmitted into the body wood due to the anchorage being in the body..and so interacts better with the wood than a surface mounted bridge design

[quote name='AndyThomas' post='403824' date='Feb 8 2009, 09:39 PM']Hi I cant find the Markley ones on the web in the UK, however the Thomastik Jazz flat wound .043.056.070.100.136 may do the trick I'm kind of feeling my way around the fretless stuff, but I want the warmest that does the elast damange to the fret board, it's a Macassar fretboard. As Dave says it's probably just the nature of the bass Andy[/quote] neither can i ...i used them about 15 years ago... in retrospect with a 'soft' board i would stick to a nickel flat or tapewound roto the TI cost a lot but have a very comfortable feel, bend easily, and have good sustain for a flat they do..as most out of the packet flats feel a bit sticky but this soon goes i have used them on and off with the TI jazz rounds on a 5 and having also used other flats do recommend them...notwithstanding any flats i havent used.. [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-105800.html"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/inde...p/t-105800.html[/url] have a look around two scrolls down...macassar ebony is mentioned [url="http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=4549.0"]http://www.unofficialwarmoth.com/index.php?topic=4549.0[/url] and this i think you have a good strong board there but snail tails are unsightly...go for flats

saw her youtube using an acoustic bass plugged in really fab vibe good work

i dont slap i sometimes start playing melody or harmony lines and forget about thumping i play too loud i dont keep time but follow the singer i dont play with a drummer...they dont like my style i do keep my thumb behind the neck i do use one finger per fret technique i do fingerstyle i do set my intonation and action i am particular about tuning

[quote name='AndyThomas' post='403649' date='Feb 8 2009, 07:01 PM']Hi I've just bought my first ever Fretless bass and I'm loving it. It's a Sei Flamboyant V (see Image below), and I feel pretty lucky to own it. I got it 2nd hand from the Bass Gallery. I need some advise, what strings would you recommend? I'm trying to get that really warm Percy Jones/Jaco sound. At the moment it sounds a little too harsh. I've tried twiddling all the knobs but can't get it. I currently use DR Hi-Beams 45 65 85 105 125. Great strings and worked well on my fretted bass but I'm not sure they're the right ones for the fretless. It may have nothing to do with the strings of course. It's got Bare Knuckle J Style PIckups with Demeter 3 band Eq if that helps. Any guidance would be appreciated Andy [attachment=19954:photo.jpg][/quote] first idea is flats...TI then i remember i used to use dean markley fretmasters on my fretless...they have ground strings in the neck area and are full diameter where you pluck if its an ebony board it will probably be happy with nickel rounds i would not attempt stainless rounds on a fretless but the tru bass strings since they are tape wound over round wound should be ok...if you like stainless brightness

[quote name='JPJ' post='403485' date='Feb 8 2009, 04:12 PM']Thanks mate, but I've just bought [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=40178"]this one[/url] as the basis for a project I've had in mind for a while now. I converted to five strings a long time ago, and always fancied a five string stingray but have never liked the larger scratchplate or the big chamfers. Plan is to build a body like the four string in a see-through black stain, no scratchplate or control plate, hence the question about body sizes.[/quote] i dont think a 4 body would or should be bigger...the neck on a 5 is only about 16mm wider ..a guess based on 19mm bridge spacing... so i assumed in my earlier post that EB would just use a 4 body and chamfer it for a 5 with neck pocket etc personally i prefer the 5 standard scratchplate but thats me no scratchplate sounds pretty cool....are you going to use the chrome plate for controls

[quote name='agroupuk' post='403489' date='Feb 8 2009, 04:18 PM']Theres one acoustic bass I am aware of thats loud and thats the Tacoma thunderchief. It's very expensive tho. I nearly bought one but relented at the end and spent a bit less on the top of the range Tanglewood acoustic. Its loud enough against a single guitar if I pick it rather than fingers, but amped up its sweet! It has rotosound flats on and sound like an upright bass. I was playing it amped at a local open mic night doing Knocking on Heavens door and the amount of comments I got afterwards abut how nice it sounded made buying it worthwhile. Keep thinking about one - they make sense for practicing anywhere in the house and they are such a unique sound when amped. Anyway - have fun![/quote] thats a cool bass...at 799 its a bit off my budget [url="http://www.themusicgallery.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CB10C"]http://www.themusicgallery.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CB10C[/url] ps..your tanglewood experience intrigues me..i will check that out...with amp it could be what i want thanks [url="http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product.asp?id=5795"]http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product.asp?id=5795[/url] was it this tanglewood bass you got

[quote name='liamcapleton' post='403447' date='Feb 8 2009, 03:30 PM']I wouldn't even agree with that, it's not a fair analogy (although I do see your point). Fender would more accurately be described at the Ford company itself, rather than one of it's base models... a company that gave the world the most usable means of transport to the masses and a company that gave the world the most usable electric guitars at the time. That to me would seem fairer. I'd like to know what a 'serious' bass player is... if you looked up 'serious bass player' in the dictionary, who would fall under that particular description? I would consider myself a serious bass player and I'm very happy being stuck in the Fender 'rut' as you call it... most of all because I can't justify spending more money right now on a new bass that would make me appear in the eyes of other musicians 'a more serious bass player'... I get along fine with my Jazz bass. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand why people might not like Fenders, but often the arguments that people come up with as to why they don't like the brand itself are generally born out of a mish-mash a misinformation and half opinion that summarise nothing, basically. The 'serious bass player' argument, for example, is tosh. [/quote] i guess it is nonsense as you say..so many fender afficionados...the same with ricks which i think are complete rip offs.. i have had both and liked them but didnt get on with them as the saying goes for various reasons i found out after buying the particular model i had and wanted a 'better' bass...as it happened a 5 which now i dont want...my epitaph no doubt its not i dont like fenders but am making the point that today you are talking fender the name and so is a variable yamaha for instance dont have a historical past to come up to and reinvent every so often i think the 'fender' manufacturing base is no different from say yamaha or ibanez or ...does gibson still exist... gibson..and all are shapes based on the past with attempts to modify to keep up with modern trends as for a serious bass player...i can tell you are one because you slapped my wrist... i only referred to a bassist who was more concerned with playability and sound rather than headstock shapes and decals as for the money angle...i apologise..its easy to talk outside the box and disregard practicalities...so i better let that go as not good grounds for argument...ie there are better basses so why dont you have them?? good to know we arent all the same.. cheers geof

[quote name='The Burpster' post='403443' date='Feb 8 2009, 03:26 PM']Accoustic basses tend to lack sufficient volume to cut it with other accoustic instruments, hence the prevelance of electro accoustics. You dont need a huge amp to drive the sound but anything like 1/2 decent accoustic 6 strings will drown an un amplified bass unless it is an upright. [/quote] thats all i need to know...needing an amp will mean to me to stick with the electric basses...it was a thought albeit a bit naff thanks a lot for the insight cheers

havent got a 4 to compare but i was surprised to feel the body so neat and comfy...the chamfering may be doing that i would guess from a production point of view they would start life from the same jig so that common routing could be done the neck pocket would be bigger and the scatchplate of course just modeled to give a better and more pleasing look to a great bass want one? [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39305&st=0"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=39305&st=0[/url]

[quote name='lemmywinks' post='403428' date='Feb 8 2009, 03:10 PM']Most of the cheaper to mid priced ones lack a lot of bass on the low E, purely due to the physics of producing that low end. I've got an old cheapy (£160 ten years ago!) and it sounds pretty decent with bronze strings. Always fancied the Michael Kelly ones. There was a Takamine for sale here not so long ago, don't think it sold and it was a bargain[/quote] thanks lemmywinks i am wondering if an acoustic would suit a small group situation...low E wouldnt be a problem so long as fretted F was sound i will research the takamine you mentioned.. cheers geof

[quote name='Telebass' post='403325' date='Feb 8 2009, 12:32 PM']Very few people would call Marcus Miller anything except serious. There's your statement blown away. If you really need a hand-crafted, exotic wood bass, well and good. But the best of them is not neccessarily better than anything else. There is not, and will not ever be, some 'ultimate bass', or indeed anything else. They are all just different. I entirely agree with BBC (in principle, if not in, er, tone!). Keep it simple. It works. No need to knock it if it don't float ya boat. They do a really good job for me, and my tone gets compliments. You cannot buy tone, you have to make it yourself, and if you can do that with a simple instrument, you are one step ahead. Den[/quote] good points den and fair defence for the 'fender' bass regarding marcus miller...does he play a stock fender or one that a luthier/tech has modified...then marketed at a 'profotable' price and produced in a factory i just cant see how the fender marque today can anyway really be connected with its origins its a name...and like gibson and others are far from home i bet marcus has some nice furniture though

how many are familiar with acoustics and if so what kind of volume and tone do they have without using any onboard electrics and preamps recommendations would be fine in the mid price category and do they need bronze strings?? thanks

go hunt penguins and wait for the sun to come back

[quote name='clauster' post='399926' date='Feb 4 2009, 01:16 PM']+1 to what Hubrad says. That's why I'll never buy a bass over the 'net. You'll know what it looks like, but you won't know exactly how it sounds until you've paid for it and had it delivered. Long live the guitar shop![/quote] thats the downside i agree... i like to look at the neck to body joint and the paint finish, the alignment of the strings to the pups you can only do that in the shop then you have to haggle the price....its a bonus and worth the extra to get a well made bass no matter what its pedigree the sound you will experiment with anyway over the years

you are right...quite a dearth of rick cheyennes in 4 mode most seem to be in the usa...

fender is a trade name i dont think you will be getting original fender even if you had £4000 to throw around i look on all fenders...and non boutique basses...as mass produced instruments the criteria is engineering finish and quality control nowadays every lad wants a fender...mainly the headstock is the flag you fly and will put up with all sorts of diversions in approach on pups bridge and electrics i really think the bass world is being pulled along by the real fenders...the strats and other models in the guitar arena serious bass men wont fall or stick in the fender rut or gulley when they can have much better engineered instruments albeit at a cost..which does say something about the whole scenario how much do you pay for nostalgia and marketing

[quote name='artisan' post='401926' date='Feb 6 2009, 12:27 PM']i nearly always use flats on my passive Fenders but i was wondering what my deluxe P would sound like with flats on it. yes ok i'm too tight to buy a set & try them,i am a Yorkshire man after all. also would they be ok strung throught body or would i be better top loading them, cheers.[/quote] the active part either is onboard preamp or EMG actives i would think on a straight forward passive pup/active eq bass they would sound about the same on an EMG pup model i reckon you would hear a lot of string to fret click but the overall sound should be tubby with bright harmonics a bit of a mix match i would reckon