JPJ

‘Beat’ is an emotive term isn’t it. I play a lot of five string bass so low (or pseudo low) end is important. I’m not a slap pop & tapper and mainly play what you might call classic rock, southern rock, and country style music. I like a little mid growl but certainly don’t need glassy highs. I originally thought this might be as simple as building two Basschat 1x12 mk II’s, leaving the compression driver and crossover out of one and metaphorically gluing them together 😂 - shows how much I know about loudspeaker design 😂

Yep, two of my five strings assumed a nice bow and unplayable high action. To be fair, its a while since I last tweaked them so the heat probably only exaggerated a raise action to the point where I did something about it.

On most of the basses I've owned and liked, the front edge of the pickup sits just behind the harmonic which is about 6 1/2" from the bridge saddles. I've had a couple where the pickup is on the harmonic and they are way too bright for me. Don't know whether this helps?

So the cab would be used in both scenarios, as completely standalone bass reproduction in smaller pub gigs and with PA support on larger stages. Amp-wise my current stable contains the Ashdown Head of Doom (shown in the picture), a pre/power setup containing the SWR Marcus Miller pre coupled with their 400W class D Amplite power amp, and the 1500w behemoth SWR SM1500. Primary design objective will not be weight, and I’m not against fitting wheels and a handle to trundle it around. My current ‘go to’ cab is an SWR Goliath II fitted with Eminence Deltalite speakers. This cab does all my gigs both with and without PA support. As I said earlier, I’m a fairly competent wood butcher so you can get creative (top and bottom shelf ports, centre port, three shelf ports, drivers in their own boxes, folded horn, or split angled baffle a la early Schroeder cabs). Budget-wise, I’m fairly flexible but why don’t we say up to £500 for the two drivers I.e around 50% of the as new price of a Barefaced Super Twin?

Hi Phil, I’d definitely be up for that. Something fairly efficient, and don’t worry about complexity, I’m a fairly competent wood butcher. Oh and a slot port please. Oh and 19” wide as I can’t stand overhanging amps 😂 At todays rehearsal I got to use a wonderful old Carlsbro Stingray Pro Bass 4x12 which must have been a very efficient design as it was monsterously loud with the master volume barely on.

Crazy idea, to save space use a four pole speakon and offer a special cable with two outs for one in (it works in my head)

Good point well made. I suppose I just fancy a single 4ohm cab solution. Also, in my head the second 1x12 could be simpler (no crossover or compression driver).

Like a lot of us, I followed the design mega thread of the Basschat 1x12 with great interest (and the simpler version too). I am thinking of building one, but I really fancy a 2x12. My question to @stevieand @Phil Starr is would it simply be a case of doubling the cab size to add a second 12” driver (even in a divided box if necessary)?

YI-PET?

Sounds like we need another NE Bass Bash once the prototype is available 😎

I’m available 😎 I was also an early tester for the YI200 and still intend buying one when funds permit.

But woefully supported here in the UK 😞

Great little combos, don’t be put off by the 8” speakers, these things shift so serious air. I’ve used mine with five string basses, acoustic basses and a five string KK EUB.

Very nice and an interesting pickup selection. That red is very vibrant, I love it!

Looks like it, I could spend hours in there and the smell is just divine to any amateur (or for that matter professional) wood butcher 😎

Thanks Phil, Very helpful explanation.

I went a slightly different route and bought the Head of Doom instead which is an awesome amp 😎

Ah that might explain it then - not having much electronics know how is this because of the physical size of the crossover components that would have to be used in the cabinet?

Martin is a one-man band and I know he’s been very busy of late, including moving his premises so it might be worth trying again?

If you’re looking for medium weight all valve then don’t forget Stoneham’s beautiful 200W amp head. https://www.stonehamamps.co.uk/product/yi200-head/?

So years ago I used to run an SWR Triad which was the sweetest sounding if underpowered cabinet I’ve played through. Then I got my hands on a Schroeder 21012 which whilst probably more a two-way cab was the best single cab room filling solution. When Alex started Barefaced he placed a lot of store in three-way designs with a dedicated mid-range driver although he’s subsequently moved away from that approach. So given the advances in loud speaker design would a modern three-way design be viable as a single cab solution (I’m thinking a 1200W Triad)?

Our PA is probably ‘small’ but handles the full band (drums, bass, 2 x guitars, 3xVOX, 1 x fiddle). The guitars and bass all have back line so I pan the signal in the PA to even things up out front. The PA comprises 2 x EV ZLX15P’s + 2 x Peavey Pro15 powered subs with a Behringer XR18 on desk duties and a Driverack for crossover/speaker management. One advantage of 2 subs is they provide a much sturdier platform for pole mounting the tops than stands and is more ‘drunk punter’proof’ in my experience. In reality, despite the ZLX’s being marketed at 1000W, we’ve probably got closer to 600W per side flat out, but this is more than enough for the venues we play where we are required to provide the PA.

Looking great, very classy 😎