Linus27

Here is my wonderful, gorgeous sounding 2EQ fretless Stingray.

Thank you. I think I need to get a folder together with photos and serial numbers and contact the insurance company just to be on the safe side.

[quote name='icastle' post='1140416' date='Feb 24 2011, 08:58 PM']Most of it is related to how the signals are processed within the amplifier. Class A amps are the 'bog standard' amplifiers that we've all seen/owned/used. Big box with a dirty great transformer to run the power supply inside which is switched on the whole time the amp is in use. Class D amps essentially switch parts of their output stage on and off depending on the signal being passed through them - the power supplies are smaller as they don't need to be on the whole time, therefore allowing smaller and lighter units to be built.[/quote] Ah ok, cool, thank you.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1140409' date='Feb 24 2011, 08:54 PM']RH450 or Genz Streamliner 900. The RH450 total volume is huge....very honestly rated. Head to head it will push ahead of the 6.0 and match the 9.0.[/quote] See my reply above though. Are my cabs not powerful enough to take a Shuttle 9?

[quote name='MOSCOWBASS' post='1140361' date='Feb 24 2011, 08:12 PM']I have a Shuttle 9, although I haven't tried a 6, I've read it's a warmer and fuller sound. Perhaps a 9 max if you need more flexibility? I like the 9 because it gives me 500 watts@8ohms into a Midget T for small gigs.......good thing is it covers larger gigs as well and is really portable. I have a Tecamp Puma 1000 ,which I really like, but I find I'm taking the shuttle to gigs at the moment.[/quote] I was just looking at the Shuttle 9 but its 900W @ 4 ohm and 500W @ 8 ohm. My Aggy GS 112 are rated at 300 watts each at 8 ohms. So if I run one cab, thats going to be 500W into a 300W cab. Likewise, if I run 2 x cabs, thats going to be 900W at 4 ohms going through the two cabs. So is the Shuttle 9 not going to be a bit too powerful for my cabs?????

I currently have a GB Shuttle 6 which really is a cracking amp. I run it through 2 x Aggy GS112's and its very warm and punchy. However, I am thinking about having either a backup amp or have the Shuttle 6 as the backup and something else as my main amp. Anyone got any suggestions on what an upgrade over a Shuttle 6 would be? I like the look of the Aggy AC500SC and I hear great things about the TC Electronics RH450 or Classic 450 but are they pretty much the same as the Shuttle 6 in terms of build/quality/tone etc? The other option would be to just buy another Shuttle 6 or look at the GB Streamliner. Also, whats the difference over a Class A and Class D amp?

Does anyone know if you should notify your household insurance company that you own a musical instrument or would they just cover it under household content insurance?

Thanks everyone, some great help for me. What I am trying to do is get my head around and trying to understand the basics of what makes a Motown bassline but it seems to me it can be pretty open to anything depending on era and artist. It seems a lot of the early Motown is kind of groove or swing based with roots in Jazz and Blues. So a walking type bass line in places but not as obvious or full as a Jazz bass line. An example is Tears Of A Clown or Heatwave which are very swing orientated. Later on it seems to soften and go more pop/soul and reliant on the vocal. Some artists like Stevie Wonder and the Jackson 5 seem to go more towards funk feel. Of course I could be talking total rubbish but from my brief listening today, this is what I seem to have noticed.

My new project is very Motown influenced and has mentioned James Jamerson etc in conversations. Can anyone recommend some really good tracks, songs, CD's/DVD's etc I should listen to/get to really absorb the whole Motown vibe. I do have the Standing In The Shadows book which I will go through but anything else anyone can suggest to help get really into the Motown thing would be really appreciated. Oh, and before anyone says Flats, don't ok :):)

[quote name='silddx' post='1136497' date='Feb 21 2011, 11:02 PM']I'll unruin it, Bob's playing a tort plate. I'll ruin it again, you already have a tort plate. Fit it! I'll ruin even more, you won't like the 51 P, they play like dogshit. It will be for sale after you leave your new project [/quote] HEHE tort plated was fitted last night and its made the bass look creamy rather than white and more retro looking. Plus its sounding ace with the rotosound rounds on and the tone turned down about 40%. However, over my dead body with this bass have flats on it Still want a 51 Precision.

[quote name='Doctor J' post='1136122' date='Feb 21 2011, 08:05 PM']Bob Babbitt, Motown bassist. [/quote] You are not helping you know I've set my heart on a 51 Precision and now you have gone and ruined it :)

[quote name='mcnach' post='1136013' date='Feb 21 2011, 07:24 PM']There, I corrected that for you. Now it says what you really meant [/quote] You see, among all the other comments in this thread, your one is the only one that makes sense :)

I must admit, looks play a massive part for me. Around 30% looks, 25% feel and 45% tone. Just check out my other thread where I can't get my head around playing Motown/Joplin/Acoustic type stuff on my white with black scratchplate Precision as it looks too punk. For me, I got to feel comfortable getting up on stage with a bass that I can wear with pride.

[quote name='chris_b' post='1133316' date='Feb 19 2011, 12:56 PM']All the guys you mention played Precision basses, and all the music was created on Precision basses so I'm not really sure why you think that a Precision bass isn’t the right tool for the job!![/quote] I think its because my Precision looks really punk and because its strung with Rotsound rounds, it sounds very clanky and punky. Sure I can dial out some of the tone and smooth it a bit but I kind of fancy a 51 if it can create the more mellow tone I am after. Plus it looks more retro.

OK, it looks like I can't pull the wool over the eyes of you lot Today I tried the Precision again and as suggested, rolled the tone off a little and the volume to 80%. It sounded good and to be honest would probably work fine. It still have some of that clank but it was better. However, I just can't get my head around my Olympic White Precision with black scratchplate playing this sort of music. I just think punk. I guess I could put the tort plate on which makes it look cream coloured and more retro but in my head its my punk bass that I have slung low and play with a pick OK, so now I have confessed or shall I say, been found out, I may give it a go. However, I still like the idea of a 51 Precision for the retro look. I guess I got to get the gig first As for flats, I just don't like the feel of them and the tone is just dull to my ears.

I was kind of sorted for basses with my MIA Precision, fretless Stingray and Jazz. However, an interesting project has come up that I feel non of my basses would suit. It's going to be fretted so thats just my Precision I have suitable but its a bit too punk, bright and clunky. The music is a bit Motown, Paul Weller, Carol King. Very acoustic so I think my Precision will just clunk too much. I think the tone I would be after is warm, smooth and full. Now before anyone say FLATS, may I stop you there and say, no way, I hate them. Ok, my initial thought would be a nice Jazz of some sort. However, I really don't want to spend much money as I don't have it. So, do you think one of those Fender 51 re-issue Precisions would do the job or is it going to be too bright and clunky still? I remember that chap from Oasis playing one and they had a sort of warm Weller/Beatles type tone. I get the impression that they might be quite retro and darker sounding rather than clunky punky sounding modern Precision. Any thoughts or should I stick with a Jazz?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1129056' date='Feb 15 2011, 11:03 PM']That's it keep going. I have all sorts of little methods now, if you get plenty of D's your still onto a winner. Lol F lines up with the pips in the clef and I have only had E on a lower ledger line yet C and D comes up on higher ledger lines quite a bit, Obviosly not a five string fan [/quote] I want to get to the point whereI see the space or line the note is on and I know instantly what the note is like I am doing with some already like the low G, D and high C. I just need to keep at it and get it locked into my head.

Had my first go at the Bass Cleff Apprentice and my average time was 2.12 second per note. Quite pleased as a starting point.

[quote name='Doddy' post='1036168' date='Nov 25 2010, 12:10 PM']I'm a bit confused as to what you mean,sorry,but I'll have a go anyway If you have a bar of 4 crotchets you will play each note to the value of one beat. If you then change that to four quavers,played on the beat,you will be playing the notes in the same place,but they will last for half the duration-a quaver followed by a quaver rest. So it goes from playing 1,2,3,4 to 1(+),2(+),3(+),4(+) with a rest on the 'and' of each beat. If you go down to semiquavers it's the same thing- you'd play the first one and then rest for the next 3- eg 1(e+a),2(e+a),3(e+a),4(e+a). You are still playing on the beat,but only for the duration of a semiquaver. Hope that's not too confusing.[/quote] Bloody hell, I understood that I even tapped my thumb along as you explained it and then it was confirmed I was right when you explained the method.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1129032' date='Feb 15 2011, 10:42 PM']Oh no the addiction will kick in soon You have to crack 1.00 secs to get the top grade which took me about a week or two of playing it when I had a few minutes spare but it worked as I can get about 1.30 secs within one or two goes then down to just over a second even after weeks of not trying so I think I have the notes fairly well sorted at least good enough for working something out. I need work on the note lengths and rythms etc next. Next weeks lesson will either bring me on loads or make me give up![/quote] It is quite addictive. I found that some notes I just knew what they were and others it was a case of working out using either the D or low G as a reference point and counting up from there Its good though and enjoying it.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1128753' date='Feb 15 2011, 07:11 PM']I'm right at the beginning too Linus and have my first lesson next week! And it's with a certain person in this thread he may of bitten off more than he can chew this time I'm going to put in as much time as possible but a hour every night won't be possible as I have other musical commitments although I will try and score that bands stuff and incorporate the two (the second guitarist is a classical teacher and makes his own chart to play from anyway so we will look like real musicians ) There is already a bass clef YTS thread Linus to tell us about your progress there are a few of us dropping in there from time to time and there is a link to the bass clef wizard tool online which is very addictive you have been warned![/quote] I just did that bass clef wizard test. It came back saying I am a Bass Cleff Apprentice and my average time was 2.12 second per note. To be honest, I am quite impressed I was that good. Just above average grade.

[quote name='jakesbass' post='1128940' date='Feb 15 2011, 09:32 PM']This is an important point[/quote] I have that Rufus Reed book so thats a good start.

Me and a mate got robbed at knife point in Barcelona. I had a knife to my throat and the other guy tried it with my mate also. Le Ramblas can be dodgy as hell especially the side streets. My ex boss went there with some ex army friends and they got attacked by a very large gang on Scooters down one of the side streets. Plus when I went to the GP, quite a few people who got on the train found they had been pick pocketed so yes, take extra care.