Linus27

[quote name='implo' post='781780' date='Mar 21 2010, 04:48 PM']Hello, I'd be interested in knowing you signal chain for this - was the bass put through an amp/DI, or straight into the mixer/soundcard? I've just realised my 'Ray doesn't sound like a 'Ray at all... :-/[/quote] The bass was plugged direct into my Shuttle 6 amp which had the entire EQ set flat. Out of the back of the amp I had my minidisc recorder recording live my playing. The minidisc was then plugged into my soundcard on my PC and run through Creative Media player and converted into the MP3 format.

[quote name='jakesbass' post='745577' date='Feb 15 2010, 09:45 AM']Here's a depping gig I did last summer: Not much of me but you get the idea [/quote] Great stuff Jake. Really enjoyed that.

He has very fat fingers.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='776253' date='Mar 16 2010, 01:39 PM']Listening to the clips, I like them all! I wouldnt have a problem owning any of them, but there is definitely a difference. The 2EQ is slightly more muffled and vintage, whereas the 3 just screams aggression with a pick. This is why I wanted a 2EQ classic. How would you compare your old Ray in Natural to the new Teal?[/quote] Both are very different. The 3EQ natural weights about 9.4lbs and the 2EQ teal weights about 8.2lbs. The natural also feels to have a fatter neck and more like a precision where as the teal feels thinner and flatter and reminds me of my original Stingray from 1998. The natural also sits nicer and balances better but its very minimal. My wife commented that I play the natural one more naturally. At the end of the day, the differences are differences and not faults so its just a case of getting used to them especially as the 3EQ will probably be sold and the 2EQ will be the keeper.

Dave and co, here are a couple more clips as requested. The first is the 3EQ Stingray with full bass boost, mids and treble flat played with a pick. [attachment=44901:3EQ_Stin...ss_Boost.mp3] The second is the 2EQ Stingray with bass on full and the treble on about one third. This is my perfect setup. [attachment=44902:2EQ_Stin..._Perfect.mp3]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='776221' date='Mar 16 2010, 01:18 PM']I have 2 3EQ Stingrays. One of them is ten years old, and Ive had them both from new. As they were classed as high end for me back when I was 18/19, Ive barely used them live, and they have been looked after like an expensive sports car! At the time, when I was buying, the stores never had the 2EQ versions....and all the internet advice was to 'go for the 3EQ as its more flexible'. I would like to have one 2EQ, but Id lose a lot of cash trying to swap for one. I wont be able to get one 2nd hand thats in the same condition as mine....id have to get one thats virtually new. So, im sticking with what Ive got. What I notice is the finish first and foremost. Despite Fender now having a better QC, the EB finish is IMO a touch better. It seems very very solid, and has that brilliant high gloss shine. My favourite? The natural with maple. The wood used is brilliant, and matches the shade of maple very closely. I now make sure I play them at home and wipe the chrome down to make sure it still shines. Sad I know. The natural is never getting sold, as it sentimental and my very first 'proper' bass guitar near the £1k mark. No one I knew at my age (18/19) had a brand new Ray as nice as mine so its going to be kept. The black? The finish is awesome. It is such a deep black, and the rosewood board is dark and well finished. If im honest, I couldnt sell it. Its again been looked after really well, barely gigged, and looked after at home. Again, sad I know hahah. A Ray cuts through the mix like crazy. Once the black Rays strings die, im going to change them for the EB Flats ive got waiting for it. A Stingray with flat sounds awesome. [attachment=44896:IMG_2575.JPG][/quote] The two second hand Rays I have are both in mint condition. Not a single dent, scratch, mark, blemish on either. Both are the same condition as my new one was. They are built very well and do last so I would not worry about getting a second hand 2EQ. Just check before buying.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='776110' date='Mar 16 2010, 11:29 AM']Fantastic clips. I'm sooooo glad I have a 2eq.[/quote] HEHE thank you

[quote name='Duarte' post='776042' date='Mar 16 2010, 10:12 AM']Well for a start I never touch the mid knob (why I own 3 Bongos each with 2 mid knobs is anyone's guess....) but I also just prefer the subtle differences in the tone over that of the 3EQ. I'm talking those tiny differences you hear. Also I like how there are no detents, you just kind of turn the knobs until it sounds good, without being influenced by whether it is flat or not. The 2EQ also puts out more lower frequencies. It is literally subsonic in that respect, it goes down to 20hz rather than the 3EQ's 50hz. Not really such a big deal, I just prefer it's entire vibe. Plus, it looks cooler with the output jack on the front.[/quote] Yeah I've noticed the extra lows on the 2EQ. It was a bit weird at first as it had lots of lows and lots of highs where as the 3EQ was more even and balanced over the entire tonal range. Took a bit of getting used to. Have to agree with the jack socket on the front being a better place.

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='776011' date='Mar 16 2010, 09:41 AM']Cheers Michael. So are you keeping the 2EQ? I really like the tone in all the clips. The first two are great and the 2 EQ one is pretty close to what im getting with my Sub. Any chance you can do another pick one with the 3 EQ boosted a little, something that sounds a bit meatier. Its the 3 Band EQ im more interested in as i dont have one. If ive got this right the 2 EQ is flat with both knobs turned down. How does that compare to your ears with the 3EQ flat? Should they be the same, more or less). Like you i find it a bit confusing not having any markings on the 2EQ knobs. But then i tend to run the bass almost right up. Keep up the good work, its been very helpful to a lot of people.[/quote] Hey Dave, my daughter is ill today and I have had to take the day off work. This has given me the chance to play both Stingrays a lot more. Last night I was really fed up with both and even more so as I was leaning towards the 3EQ. So today I've had a good play and I am now leaning more towards the 2EQ. If you remember, the original purpose was to have a bass I could play driving rock/punk on with a pick that would do the job of a Precision but not actually buy a Precision. Finger play was also required but less so as I would use my Warwick or Jazz for this. The 2EQ I am finding is more 2 dimentional and traditional sounding whilst retaining a version of the Stingray sound and despite not perfect, its giving me more of the tone I am after over the 3EQ. If I am honest though, the 3EQ is a much nicer bass and in my opinion a better bass. Finger style the 3EQ has so many more options and is easier to adjust as the dials having the centre indent when flat. Playing the 2EQ today, I had to keep adjusting the tone dial as I had no reference point. A case of a little more treble, oops, to much, a little less, nope a bit more now etc etc. Both basses make a great tone with a pick but as I said earlier, the 2EQ was more traditional, Precision sounding which was what I was after. The 3EQ I would say had more of an original tone with a pick and a lot more options to shape the tone differently where as the 2EQ was more traditional and simple with only the option to add/remove bass and add/remove treble. Not that I play it, but slap bass it totally awsome on the 3EQ. In fact the 2EQ was down right dissapointing. As I am after a one trick pony, something to play punk rock on with a pick, then for me the 2EQ suits me better but I am aware that its more limiting than my 3EQ. If I wanted a bass to do everything, finger style, slap, pick then personally I would pick the 3EQ. The 2EQ can do everything perfectly well but I think the 3EQ just gives you more options. Going back to your question regarding the 2EQ sound clip. No, the 2EQ had the bass turned up full and the treble around half. The 3EQ settings were flat. The reason for this was to try and mimic the sound of the flat 3EQ Stingray with the 2EQ Stingray and this was to my ears the closest match. No problem doing another recording with the 3EQ boosted. I will set it how I would run it if I was using it. Glad it has helped everyone.

[quote name='Doctor J' post='775941' date='Mar 16 2010, 08:03 AM']We both know that's never gonna happen [/quote] HAHA yeah I know Good to see lots of love for this particular bass.

[quote name='Doctor J' post='775422' date='Mar 15 2010, 05:16 PM']Now you've seen two Like yours, mine is an 87 or 88, I got it in 93. I've done 100's of gigs with it too. In those years the likes of Sadowsky, Fender, Rickenbacker, Warwick, EBMM have come and gone, but this one stays. It's the bass for all occasions. Despite being a real prick for messing around with aftermarket bits, this one is still stock and it's the best sounding and playing bass I have. The headstock is a bit thicker than any Fender I've seen, I think this was as they were leaving the aftermarket parts business and becoming a full on manufacturer.[/quote] OH WOW :) That looking superb and I love all the battle scars. I know, very unlikley but if you ever have a moment of madness and want to sell, let me know