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Ashdown ABM 410T 4x10 Speaker Cab with Tweeter
Linus27 replied to Linus27's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
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[quote name='Musicman20' post='530848' date='Jul 2 2009, 05:43 PM']I have to admit as time as gone on, in 14 years as a bassist, I can see why people think a 1x15 sounds like it does. It might be based on more of the classic style 1x15s, not the new designs.....but there is a sense that a 4x10 is fast and punchy, whereas a 1x15 sounds nice and chunky and low. This is only with cabs i've tried....saying that my Orange 1x15 has very sweet highs...without a tweeter. Tom Bowlus noticed the same thing. So, I think its a tradtional view from tradtional cabs. New designs may indeed be different [/quote] I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I have been playing for 23 years and not really bought many bass cabs so I can only comment on what I have owned or tried which is why I say from a non-expert background. My first cab was a Calrbro 1x15 back around 1988. Then I got a Trace Valve combo 1x15 around 1996. Then a Trace combo 1x15 around 1997. Then I got a Hartke 4x10XL and 1x15XL around 1998. I ended up using the 1x15 more because the 4x10 was was so thin and tinny but that might have been because of the alluminium speakers. All this time I was playing punk rock pop stuff which needed fat full driving bass lines. The classic 4x10's in those days just sounded thin and to much top end which is why I chose the 1x15 everytime. I guess all my old speakers were the old classic style and why I have the opinion that 1x15's have a certain sound. I guess speakers have changed a lot in recent years. However, I still have to question, what the difference tonally there is between say a 1x15, 2x10 and 4x10 and infact a 2x12 for that matter and why do manufacturers offer the different configurations. My MAG 2x10 and 1x15 certainly sounded different and sat with the traditional perception. There was not a big difference but enough for me to notice and choose between depending on what bass I was going to play. Jazz would get the 2x10 to be clearer and more mids and top and my Stingray would go with the 1x15 to fatten it out. I guess things have moved on.
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[quote name='alexclaber' post='530613' date='Jul 2 2009, 01:45 PM']I've said it before and I'll say it again - there is no such thing as a 4x10" sound. They all sound different! Same with every speaker configuration. The sound is down to the specifics of the cabinet, driver and crossover designs, not the nominal diameter. Or to look at an analogy, the performance of a car is not determined by the number of doors it has. Yes, there are lots of fast 2-door cars but there are plenty of 4-door cars with far better performance than many 2-doors. What matters much more is the weight of the car, the stiffness of the suspension, the centre of gravity and the power of the engine - just as with a loudspeaker the cone mass, suspension compliance, cone break-up modes and the voicecoil/magnet motor power matters much more than the nominal diameter. Alex[/quote] OK, talking from a non-expert background. I have always found that a 1x15 was always a lot bassier and boomier, especially when comparing like for like. For example, a Trace 1x15 combo always sounded bassier than the 4x10 combo. Even my two Ashdown MAG cabs I had sounded different with my MAG head. The 1x15 was much fuller and bassier than the 2x10 was cleaner, smoother with less bottom end. This was where I actually found the Ashdown 1x15 sounding wooly. So basing on my experience on different cabs, a 1x15 had always sounded too bass heavy for me and why I always chose the 4x10 option. Now, your cabs may be different but I just wanted to explain why I commented on a 4x10 sound.
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[quote name='dave_bass5' post='530572' date='Jul 2 2009, 01:19 PM']Yeah, sorry. Its bloody hot here at work. I cant think much let alone come up with anything original. The problem (main one really) i have with my 1210R is its heavy. Im sure its nothing like your Ashdown (ill refrain from adding anything here ;-) but compared to my 1212L its a lot heavier. I do quite fancy something a bit more conventional sounding though. Not bothered about it sounding too uncoloured but sometimes the mid hump can get on my nerves a bit. Sounds great out front but im really a 1x15 man. Ive only heard great things about Alex's cab's and while im very tempted i dont actually "need" a new cab yet.[/quote] Yeah it is hot and I am just about to go for a curry. really sure thats a bad move. I've also only heard good things about Alex's cabs but I am more a 4x10 type of guy. I do need light though. Have you tried any Epifani's?
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[quote name='51m0n' post='530559' date='Jul 2 2009, 01:12 PM']Uncoloured is a pretty tricky and subjective thing (Ashdown are really coloured IMO for instance) I'd +1 Alex' Compact mate, really think it'ss give you what you need, but if it doesnt the Big One will Or my usual response Berg AE410, I have a bad back, but I dont really struggle with this at all, its tiny as 410s go. Or the Berg ae12 stack Or if you are rolling in wonger the IP112 (lifted one last weekend, they are very light!) plus 112er[/quote] I do love the tone from my Ashdown rig but I think I could get better from a better cab. The one that seems top of my list is the Epifani 410 or Epifani 310. Berg's are so so expensive. Saying that, Alex's compact is half the price of the Epifani's. Of course, I have not played any of these other cabs with my head so it could all be a waste of time.
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[quote name='chenzo_1' post='530395' date='Jul 2 2009, 11:21 AM']Is there much difference in tone between the two?[/quote] Like chalk and cheese. Nothing at all like each other. I own both and the DJ has the classic Jazz tone and sounds wonderful. The Stingray sounds like a Stingray which sounds nothing like a Jazz bass. I know not that helpful but they sound totally different.
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Best Acoustic bass I have found is the Washburn AB range. You can get the Washburn AB10 for around £399. Its the one I would buy.
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[quote name='TheButler' post='530339' date='Jul 2 2009, 10:28 AM']I spotted a Stingray yesterday. I've always fancied one, this was tobacco sunburst, with a really nice bird eye maple neck. I didn't see any piezo on the bridge, and the guy didn't know what pre-amp it was. I have the serial number, which i think puts it around 1999-2000? - E07731 Condition wise, it has two chips in the paint and a lot of wear on the fretboard, but nothing unsightly. I've used an old pre-89 one for recording, which i really loved and i played this one and it was even nicer! So, if this is the right price then i'll probably bite. He is asking £745, should i try get him down on that a bit? Cheers Jamie[/quote] 2eq or 3eq? I paid £670 for my 2005 3EQ in January and it in in mint condition with hard case.
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[quote name='dave_bass5' post='530481' date='Jul 2 2009, 12:16 PM']Oh go on then, seeing as you asked. Cant you just take the woolly jumpers that are covering the drivers out of the cab and it might sound better and be a lot lighter [/quote] Oh, such a poor effort. Obvious comment with the wooly jumper remark and only able to raise a small smile. 1.5 out of 5. Must try harder [quote name='dave_bass5' post='530481' date='Jul 2 2009, 12:16 PM']Seriously, im also looking to get (or maybe try) one of Alex's cabs to replace my 1210R so ill be keeping an eye on this thread. No more silly comments (unless it gets even hotter here at work;-)[/quote] Don't do that. I know a great Ashdown cab you can buy and it would be much cheaper. Plus, after a month, you will be stronger and fitter with muscles the size of houses.
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[quote name='silddx' post='529691' date='Jul 1 2009, 04:09 PM']Cheers linus Basschat seems to be brilliant for everything, maybe Ped should open a BASSCHAT kebab shop, they would be the best kebabs out there, he could call it BassBabs or something. Glad your band's going so well, I remember that thread![/quote] HAHAHA Basschat don't do beer, but if they did, it would probably beer the best beer in the world :) Reminds me of an advert.
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Congratulations on getting the gig. Let us know how you get on and when your gigging. I to have recently found comfort in the arms of a new band thanks to the help of others here with the audition. Things are going great so far for me so I wish you all the best also. Good luck.
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[quote name='Buzz' post='529299' date='Jul 1 2009, 03:16 AM']Obbm for leads. General consensus around these parts are the Dunlop straplocks are the best, however Schallers come a very close second, just be wary that you need to use threadlock on the nut to secure it 100% as depending on strap thickness, there's not alot of turns left, and that the screws that Schaller use are ever so slightly thinner and shorter than Fender's at the very least.[/quote] I just fitted 2 Schaller strap locks to both my Laklands last night. The screw that came out of the body was fatter than the one that Schaller provide. So I had to re-use the Lakland screws. However, the Laklnad screw is too big to go through the Schaller fittings so I spent the next 2 hours filing by hand 4 Lakland screws and the hole where the head goes through and the screw goes through on the Schaller fittings. My hands today are now dead :)
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I thought GAS was something I suffered with but I have since found its more to do with just finding what I am happy with. When I was learning to play I went through a few basses but most of those were upgrades to better basses. Washburn, Tokai, Fender MIM etc and I stopped at an ESP 400 series Jazz which is truely remarkable. When I got my first advance, I bought the basses of my dreams, a Musicman and a 1977 Fender Precision. I also bought a 1973 Fender Telecaster bass. I had no desire for any other bass. When I stopped playing, I sold everything (bad move) apart from the ESP. Since starting up again a few years back, it was like everything was re-set and I had to start again. I bought and sold a Telecaster re-issue bass. Great bass but not the sound or feel I was after. I then got another Musicman which is amazing and I did use it a fair amount but again, not the sound or feel I need and so, rather than sell it (I've learnt my lesson) its packed away. I then bought a Lakland Duck Dunn. Amazing bass and the perfect Precision sound for when I need it. However, it's not the sound I need. I kept going back to my ESP Jazz so I bought a Fender 1975 Classic Jazz. A great great bass with a wicked neck but the sound was not right. It should had been my main bass but my ESP sounds better. So, I sold that and have just bought a Lakland Darryl Jones and OMG, this is the perfect bass. It plays and feels amazing and the sound is on par if not maybe a little better than my ESP. I have reached my goal. So for me, its more of a case of finding the right bass from a practical point of view rather than wanting more from a desire stand point. I have the perfect Jazz, the perfect Precision, my Stingray which was always my dream bass and my ESP as the back up bass. In theory, I want no more basses. However, if money ever allows, then my perfect collection would have a Fender Telecaster/51 re-issue bass in blonde but I am not gassing for it.
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Ashdown ABM 410T 4x10 Speaker Cab with Tweeter
Linus27 replied to Linus27's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
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Easy one this for me. When I was learning to play bass, my dream bass was a Musicman Stingray. When I got a record deal and our advance, I went and bought my dream bass, a brand new Teal Green 3 EQ Musicman Stingray from the old Bass Centre in Wapping. It was a beautiful bass and the best neck ever on a Musicman. I loved it. I recorded with it on our album and toured with it. In a moment of madness I sold it and I regret that so so very much. It was not my main bass and it did not suit my style but the memories of it, especially as it was my dream bass that I bought with my first advance gives it so much sentimental value. Just wish i still had her. Oh well.
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[quote name='BigRedX' post='527727' date='Jun 29 2009, 01:50 PM']From experience I know that Fender-style bases simply don't suit me and place far too many restrictions on my playing style for me to ever consider having one. By the time I would have put right all the problems I see with a P- or J-style bass, it would have so little in common with the instrument it started out, that I might as well have something that's been design properly from the ground up to be different. Also (not a criticism aimed at anyone - simply an observation) I find it fairly depressing that for many people claiming to produce original music their originality hasn't extended to their choice of instrument.[/quote] One mans wine is another mans poison as they say. Would be interested in hearing what you would change or whats wrong with say a standard Fender Jazz bass. I am currently using a Lakland Darryl Jones which, along with my ESP 400 Series Jazz, are the best two basses I have ever played and I really can't fault them. Would be interesting to hear what you would change.
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[quote name='BigRedX' post='527529' date='Jun 29 2009, 11:00 AM']You be needing to have a good read of [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5525"]this thread[/url] then![/quote] HEHEHE OMG, I am far too boring to like any of them. I think I have been well and truely sold the commecial product. If it does not look slightly like a Fender then I don't like it
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[quote name='BigRedX' post='527498' date='Jun 29 2009, 10:29 AM']If I was going to expand my range of available basses, I'd be looking at the following: Spalt Hybrid Norton Pagelli Ritter Raptor and probably another Gus (5-string fretless this time)[/quote] I've not heard of any of those basses
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I may be at my dream collection already which is, Lakland Darryl Jones Jazz Lakland Duck Dunn Precision Musicman Stingray What I would get to compliment that would be, Fender Telecaster/51 Precision Washburn AB40 Acoustic Bass Lined Fretless I would also get a an electric fretless but not sure which one at this moment.
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[quote name='Musicman20' post='526978' date='Jun 28 2009, 07:45 PM']Im guessing the ABM 4x10 is about 79 pounds ish then? Hmm....thats still a lot lighter than a fair few non-neo 4x10s. My Orange is about 98lbs! hahahahah. Ampegs are roughly about that as well. Anyway, if you still want to go 4x10, id go for a Berg AE410.....but that only saves you about 17lbs and some bulk. I practice with my Orange 115 and thats much lighter and can easily handle a lot of power...but its still 60 ish lbs. Id maybe...maybe suggest looking at Schroeder.....1212L or 1212BMF. Ive not tried one but I hear they do a very good job.[/quote] Yeah, 79lbs or 36kg. Thats the thing, I could lift it ok and carry it ok and it did not feel any heavier than cabs I used to own around 10 - 12 years ago when I was out gigging lots, but I do suffer with a bad neck and shoulders and I am really suffering today. I think the age thing has caught up with me now and the neck and shoulders have had enough
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Ashdown ABM 410T 4x10 Speaker Cab with Tweeter
Linus27 replied to Linus27's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
[quote name='Musicman20' post='526986' date='Jun 28 2009, 07:50 PM']Ah man im sure this will go. I hate it when you buy stuff then realise its not right or practical for you...(like my Ampeg which ive had to lose some money on but its going now). Good luck....perfect nick [/quote] I know, I love it, it sounds so warm and punchy and is just my ideal setup. I used to install TV's and lugging them around, up and down stairs has weakened my neck and shoulders. I used to be able to cope but now I am 10 years older, I think my days of lugging bass cabs around are over. It's not any heavier than my old Trace and Hartke cabs I used to own, I just think I am an old fart now -
Hi, I am reluctantly selling my Ashdown ABM 410T 4x10 Speaker Cab with Tweeter. I bought it brand new and it is only a few weels old. It has only left the house once which was last Saturday for band practise. The rest of the time it has been used at home. I run it with an Ashdown ABM EVO III head and together they sound amazing. I really don't want to sell it as this is my perfect bass sound, tight, full and punchy. It sounds amazing with my Lakland Darryl Jones, Duck Dunn and also my Stingray. However, the time has come to admit that I am not as young and fit as I used to be and my shoulder and neck problems are getting no better so I am going to go the lightweight route from now on. Technical details from Ashdown. Power Handling: 650W continuous, 900W programme Speaker Configuration: 4 x 10" + HF tweeter Frequency Response: 70Hz - 20kHz Impedance: 8 Ohms SPL: 103dB 1W @ 1m H x W x D (mm) 661 x 610 x 420 Weight: (kg) 36 As this is only a few weeks old, in mint condition and pretty much brand new, I would like £300 for it. I also have the original box although it is a little tatty as my son decided to pretend it's a tank. Also, due to its weight, collection would be better as a courier is going to cost a fair bit. I am based in Surrey and any inspection or trial is welcome. Please feel free to ask any questions or request more photos.
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What about the Nemesis range by Eden? They do a lightweight 4 x 10 which also seems a very good price. Anyone got any experience of them?
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[quote name='Uncle Balsamic' post='526802' date='Jun 28 2009, 04:16 PM']You mentioned Barefaced, but really, if I was to buy a cab nowadays that's what I'd get.[/quote] It is certainly on my list of ones to consider. That is for sure.