Linus27

I am actually wondering if its to do with Fenders own standards and peoples own perception. For example, I think the standard Mexican Fender Jazz and Precisions are all pretty much the same standard build and quality. However, to person A, they are fine and a good solid instrument. To person B, they are dull, bland, cheap and nothing special. However, the special editions like the re-issues may possibly have a higher build quality over the standard Mexican Jazz/Precisions. The perception is, Mexican Fenders are pretty average but because Fender have a higher standard for the re-issues, then they appear to be a better quality instrument. In reality, they should be better as they usually carry about a £100 extra price tag thus the higher standard of build. From personel experience, and this is why I base these thoughts, when I tried the standard Mexican Fenders, the build quality was ok but they were bland, dull sounding un-inspiring instruments. Great if you want a run of the mill no thrills bass. However, for £100 more, the 70's reissue Jazz was stunning, sounded totally different, sounded and played amazing and I was happy to part with my money. My perception is based upon owning two Stingrays, a 1977 American Precision, a 1973 American Telecaster bass, a Japanese ESP 400 Jazz, a Bass Collection SR325, a Japanese 51' re-issue Precision, a Status Shark, a Squire Jazz Vintage Modified Fretless and now the Mexican 70's re-issue Jazz. So I would say I have a good deal of experience in different quality basses and have a certain level for which a bass has to reach. For others, this level may be lower and for others, it may be higher. For me the standard Mexican bass did not reach my expected level where as the re-issues did. Not sure if that answers your question but just my thoughts on it.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='399844' date='Feb 4 2009, 12:04 PM']I'd definitely go for the Classic Vibe 60's Precision. I've got one and it's awesome apart from the totally gay sonic blue paint job! Neck is excellent, pickups are noisless with excellent output & it has the vintage tuners & a much better high-mass bridge. What's not to like? Rich.[/quote] I love that baby blue colour Not sure I am brave enough to own one though :)

Speaking from experience, the Mexican Fender's can be a bit of a hit and miss. I was looking for the Mexican Fender 70's re-issue Jazz and so tried the standard Mexican Fenders as a comparision. I had heard that the 70's re-issue Jazz was superb and as good a quality as the American models if not better in some cases. I have also heard this about the Mexican 50's re-issue Precisions. When I tried the standard Mexican Jazz and Precisions I found them horrible. Bland, dull and very generic. Nothing exciting at all. However, the 70's re-issue Jazz was outstanding. I even compared it to a Musicman in the shop and it played and sounded just as good, just different which it should. So I ended up buying it and I love it. I then compared it to my Musicman at home and it does sound as good. I also have a Squire Vintage Modified Jazz Fretless and that is also amazing. I did need to get it changed as the fret liners started crumbling and falling out after a month but my current one is excellent. So, you need to go and try them and also decide on budget. My Mexican Fender 70's reissue Jazz was £430. The Squire Classic Vibes are only about £240 so quite a difference in price.

[quote name='ogri' post='395739' date='Jan 30 2009, 09:07 PM']hullo fellow humans, i bought a bass today because it played and looked and sounded lovely, and came up second hand at what i thought was a good price..its a telecaster or 51 precision bass i think, but strangely, doesnt have either the single pick up of a 51, or the humbucker looking pick up of a tele, its got standard precision pickups(the kind that look like two piggy backing but are actually one)..other clues..its not that old, got spaghetti fender precion bass on the headstock and is a gringo(made in mexico), its very heavy, got pukka alnico magnets in the p/u's, has got a badass2 brige that is fitted as standard and its in a sort of tv yellow with white scratchplate. also it sounds proper, very warm and not too toppy..any ideas what model it is guys? ive never seen one like this before :-) thanking you..oh, and im going to try myhand at putting a pic on..[/quote] Are these Mike Dirnt basses made in Mexico then?? I thought they were Japanese???

[quote name='sixshooter' post='399096' date='Feb 3 2009, 04:15 PM']A number of people on this forum use him, (OBBM for one). He will do a basic setup as well, worth getting a quote if you are going to be there anyway. Sue makes a nice cup of tea as well![/quote] Ah ok, that would be handy if he can do a basic setup as I don't really fancy taking it to Andertons. Plus I love tea :)

[quote name='sixshooter' post='399078' date='Feb 3 2009, 03:58 PM']Joe White, about 1 mile from Ash Vale station. And yes he is very good, he was at the last Bass Bash in Guildford setting up Basses.[/quote] Ah ha, I was chatting with Hampster about him and will be taking my Musicman to him to setup sometime soon. I am in Camberley so only a couple a miles away. Probably not worth taking my MIM Fender Jazz 70's re-issue to him as its only a couple of months old and only needs a basic setup so I might take that to Andertons.

[quote name='sixshooter' post='399061' date='Feb 3 2009, 03:46 PM']May end up doing that, other options are to get my local Luthier to build one, (expensive but nice), or buy a 2nd hand CS, (even more expensive and not found any 2nd hand yet). I'm thinking Sonic Blue would be a good colour! [/quote] Sonic blue would look ace. I see your in Surrey like me. Who is your Luthier and where is he based and is he any good?

[quote name='sixshooter' post='399043' date='Feb 3 2009, 03:32 PM']Thanks for the info. Considered the Sting, but not sure I want his name written on the 12th fret of my Bass, after all he does not have my name written on his [/quote] Over on talkbass, someone has taken the Sting inlay out and filled it in and it looks brilliant.

[quote name='artisan' post='399032' date='Feb 3 2009, 03:18 PM']hows about this one [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=40101"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=40101[/url][/quote] HEHEHE I had one of those in that exact colour. Great bass but at the time I just never needed it and it just sat in the case doing nothing so I sold it on here. If I buy a new one, then it has to be in either blonde which means the early 90's model or maybe in sunburst.

[quote name='ogri' post='398692' date='Feb 3 2009, 10:46 AM']the offers there my friend. lurvvve the black jazz incidently. and as much as i really like me new 'un, my jazz(with just the neck pick up turned up which is how i only ever use it) will always be my favourite bass, both for playability and sound. it does feel damn cool playing a tele though, dunno why, it just really does.. [/quote] Cool, thank you. My black Jazz is an ESP 400 Series from 1988. Pretty rare and probably the nicest Jazz I have ever played. It has the thinest neck ever. It will never be sold I would love to get an original Japanese 90's Telecaster in the pale yellow. It was a very pale yellow and nothing like the butterscotch that they do now. The thing is they are super super rare but I would love to get one. Doubt I will ever find one though.

[quote name='ogri' post='398235' date='Feb 2 2009, 07:48 PM']i would love to vote for my obvious choice buddy, but as i havnt played the other three i a unqualified to comment really..however if you live anywhere near me your welcome to try my tv yellow beauty (It is so NOT vintage white lol) for a gig and see what you think..[/quote] Thank you, that would be cool. I did actually try one when I was looking for basses and I thought it sounded amazing. Really nice angry Fender sound. Very impressed.

[quote name='stingrayfan' post='288782' date='Sep 21 2008, 08:28 PM']If you insist... [url="http://wagthedogband.co.uk"]Wag The Dog[/url], we're a three piece doing punk, indie, and ska type covers around Guildford in Surrey. Lots of parties, a few pubs and the odd wedding. Crap name, but we're pretty tight with loads of energy. Frontman's a cheeky chappy too - good with the banter. Been going nearly two years and is a good laugh.[/quote] I think I have heard of you guys being from Surrey. Have you been going for some time?

Apart from the original, which I have owned one and sold on, which of the four models is the best? In fact, is there any difference in the three models in terms of quality, tone, playability etc. The four I am thinking of are, 1. 1990's Japanese Fender re-issue 2. Current 51' Japanese re-issue 3. Sting Signature 4. Mike Dirnt Signature Apart from the obvious like slab body, rosewood neck, pickup configuration, sting inlay on the various models, Is there really much in it between the four models? Any thoughts on any differences or which ones to avoid or go for would be really appreciated.

Yes, aware of about 95% of the stuff thats played but thats because I wrote most of the arrangements or structures so made it my business to find out whats being played. I still get surprised now and again when I listen to one of the tracks on the headphones and hear something new. Makes it really cool.

[quote name='Beedster' post='395796' date='Jan 30 2009, 10:11 PM']In my defence: 1. I still have a '78 2. I now have a real man's bass (Telecaster). Moving from P to T is the the low-end equivalent of a move from from Jen to Angelina C[/quote] I am clearly more a Jen than an Angelina as my 77 P was much nicer than my 73 T :)

Had to share this, its so funny. The Guns and Roses one at the end is the best. [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r5R8gSgedh4&eurl="]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r5R8gSgedh4&eurl=[/url]

[quote name='AussieBassman' post='396636' date='Feb 1 2009, 09:53 AM']Didn't know there was a Who's version.[/quote] HAHAHAHAA git

[quote name='yorick' post='395760' date='Jan 30 2009, 09:26 PM']Ha-ha................ [/quote] Yeah but my reply was better because I used better words so there ... nah ... nah .. nah

[quote name='yorick' post='395753' date='Jan 30 2009, 09:21 PM']Sounds like the Mike Dirnt sig model. Bass player with Green Day.[/quote] Damn, you beat me by one minute

Sounds like the Mike Dirnt from Green Day model.

[quote name='Protium' post='395657' date='Jan 30 2009, 07:13 PM']Why not ask the real Adam Clayton?[/quote] I think the travelling puts him of a bit.

[quote name='bassicinstinct' post='395286' date='Jan 30 2009, 11:52 AM']A lucky esape I reckon!! [/quote] hahahaha

Bugger, perfect gig for me. I can play all the U2 songs. Shame I live nowhere near Ipswich. How about moving the band to nearer me :):) [url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yCe2fba51EY"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yCe2fba51EY[/url]