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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1385830225' post='2292641'] (...) They may even be repeating an adoptive POV that they have read elsewhere and they haven't themselves managed to get beyond the bedroom [/quote] No, I'm talking about experienced players who're simply a bit snotty. One of the "opinions" I posted above was from a guy who's an owner of a recording studio. He considers only a one Jazz Bass configuration to be "worthy" (specific hardware, no pickguard etc.) and others "don't sit well in the mix", he says (and thus he has 4 JB's, each set up in an identical way, one of them fretless). I consider that to be a dangerous opinion as it sometimes discourages players form trying and looking for their own sound and equipment configuration. [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1385830225' post='2292641'] (...) How much it all matters..????? [/quote] I guess it matters, when their opinions will be spotted by a beginner who'll read them out of context (like, when he'll see only a fragment in Google search results. He'll be wondering if he should, for example, play with pick, and he'll ask Google and will see some fragments of posts suggesting that pick playing is for "suckers" and will be quite sure it's a wide opinion. Personal story (not about the bass, though): I met a boy once, from a family who collect vintage cars. He said that Chevrolet Chevelle (that I liked at that time, but simply for the looks) is a weak car with nothing to offer. After I started to become more interested in parameters and data, I discovered Chevy Chevelle to be one of the most popular muscle cars... and quite powerful, too.

"Are abitrary opinions dangerous?" or "Another thing that makes Basschat.co.uk a great site for bass players!" One thing struck me today while I was browsing the Polish forum for bass players: there are some old (in terms of length of their "career" with bass) bassists, who love to give their arbitrary opinions without the sacramental "In My Humble Opinion". People who are young and inexperienced will Google some troubling questions and they will be directed to that forum and there they will discover that a guys who's been playing bass for ~12 years are saying pretty gems like: - "X type of effect = [explicit word for "homosexuals"]" - "one mustn't practice with effect pedals" - "playing with pick is for weak and punk rockers" - "replace your bridge with X, your pickup with Y and strings with Z, remove the pickguard, and maybe your bass will have at least decent sound" - "that X bass will sound well only with Y genre" - "X is the only genre worth playing" All are actually stated somewhere on the forum. I'll be damned. But here on Basschat I haven't noticed much of those personal opinions that are presented like they were Absolute Immanent Truth. And that's another thing that's really cool about you guys! Anyway, what are other arbitrary opinions of that kind you think are specifically dangerous for young, innocent and - above all - inexperienced players? Do you think it's really dangerous?

I think it applies to all basses which have two distinctive and powerful features and one of them is a big PRO, another - big CON, for example:[list] [*]great sound + horrible neck comfort (Ibanez ATK310 was that thing for me) [*]big versatility + excruciating weight (that's why previous owner of my Peavey T-40 sold her to me) [*]stylish, classy looks + problem with using it with some music genres (I guess it goes with basses like '51 P-Bass or Telecaster II Bass) [/list]

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1385586996' post='2290083'] Huh? In England, condemned people are executed by use of normal chairs? [/quote] Yeah, people are tied to them and poked with soft cushions. [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1385587892' post='2290102'] It's not a serious attempt to halt its evolution...! [/quote] Never attempted anything nearly like that, as it's pointless

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1385583952' post='2290034'] What? You know about writing, and language and that? Please! Share your wisdom with us! [/quote] Unfortunately, he's right. One of the basic rules of language (and communication in general) is that through custom and frequent usage, most vocabular atrocities become common and accepted ways of communicating. If something is widely used by a lot of people, it slowly gravitates towards being a rule. If someone manages to communicate something via means full of errors, but still message is interpreted correctly, the whole communication process was a success. Unfortunately, with harm to purists. However, an error of using contradicting words interchangeably or misspelling names is not a custom. That's straight up vocabular ineptitude. American English is American English - a form of English. The same way as an electric chair is an electric chair - a form of chair.

[i]Also looks like one knob is missing.[/i] Yeah? We wouldn't have guessed. Indeed, "immaculate" has a new definition from now on.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1385415950' post='2288104'] it must be a screen hue thing [/quote] Or we might have cerebral haemorrhage

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1385408923' post='2287970'] Is that shell pink? [/quote] At least on my screen.

Well, I think not everyone has to be RHCP's Flea to dominate a song with his slap'n'funky playing. I guess many bass players in the former days just knew what they were for in the band - to complete the groove, to fill the low end and to add the warmth and rhythm to the songs. And those who became virtuosos (or "monster players", as you named it), still held the rhythm part, not the so-called "shred onanism". After 90's many bass players seem to play overly sophisticated stuff to stand out, catch the attention and prove that bass is something more than a rhythm, groove-making instrument. Well... in most cases, it isn't and there's nothing to be proven there! But also many became the exact opposite of those "mental slappers" - they though, they're just meant to fill the low end, ignoring the groove.

Easy one: [size=4]Superlux[/size] [i]HD681[/i][size=2] [size=4]monitor[/size][/size] headphones. Best bang for [s]buck[/s] quid.

Gotta love the Shell Pink and the classy Esquire logo, but in Tele I'd prefer the typical SS pickup setup... Or the HS.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1385406142' post='2287911'] The blue needs a white stripe but I like both. [/quote] That. Entirely.

Cheers That's the best bass forum that is, so no wonder it helped you so many times

[quote name='gelfin' timestamp='1385249501' post='2286196'] Just love pedantry. I get accused of it quite often. [/quote] You should show your Basschat.co.uk Moderator Licence at those times, then. "You have a right to remain orthographically and grammatically correct. Every error you'd make..." or something like that.

Not too bass related, but gotta mention it: iIn Poland the biggest language pet peeve of all is "bynajmniej" vs. "przynajmniej". "Bynajmniej" (spelled bee-nay-mney) means "not at all" or "anything, but" or "it's the last thing I meant". "Przynajmniej" (spelled pshee-nay-mney) means "at least". People who confuse this word are silly. They say something like "Bynajmniej jestem inteligentny, nie tak jak ty!" which means "I'm not inteligent at all, unlike you!" when they want to say "I'm at least intelligent, unlike you!" Dunno if it makes me angry or laugh more

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1385236290' post='2286031']Why people think that things on eBay should be cheaper than anywhere else, or why eBay traders should have to deliver items much, much quicker than anyone else is beyond me.[/quote] People got used to thinking that way - it's a modern day swap meet/pawn shop/garage sale version after all

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1385231937' post='2285944'] I still don't understand why that would bother anyone. Who cares what other people buy? Do these 'advisors' stand in shops all day (when they not trawling auction sites that is) and give advice to prospective customers there? [/quote] Sometimes they're ar**eholes or "chancers", but some have good intentions I believe. And some maybe just want to make a good use of their otherwise irrelevant knowledge about early 80's Japanese lawsuit basses made of ash in FujiGen? Edit: Well, look at you. We were both thinking 'bout FujiGen. [u]Buy FujiGen basses, people. [/u]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1385228365' post='2285872'] I'm sure that the salesman in my local Ferrari dealership can see my frustration when i look at those gleaming cars in the showroom at what i see as unrealistic prices but guess what? He won't reduce those prices. [/quote] Yeah, but a guy who sells second hand bass with wear and dings at a new one's price may become worried that he won't sell his merchandise and maybe he'll do some research.

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1385219366' post='2285728'] Hypothetically, if I borrowed the steel mesh from the front of my speaker cabinet and used it to support food on top of my barbecue, would it be both a grille and a grill? [/quote] One moment you discuss peacefully about a amplifier grating and barbecue, and suddenly the philosophers come, parachuting out of a clean sky...

[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1385215365' post='2285688'] Squier/Squire. [/quote] [b][u]THAT.[/u][/b] Plus the Behringer/Amplifier difference

I hate the opposite situation I usually get on basoofka.net (polish bass forum) - there are no rules that force the seller to state the price he wants. Usually sellers just post: "PM about details" or, at best, "PM me for a price". And, when asked about the price, they most often say "Offer something!" or "How much can you give?". You're selling the stuff, for God's sake, you know how much you value it! If you want to sell it to the highest bidder, use eBay or Allegro*, dammit! All comes to finding [s]a sucker[/s] an unreasonable and unaware person: "Maybe he's dumb and he'll offer an above par price?"... No, siree! It is mine, as a buyer, privilege to hunt an offer that will turn into profit, now isn't it?! [size=2]* sort of Polish eBay[/size]

Really cool! Somehow I think it fits a climatic bar. It'd go really cool with card playing, maybe?

...aaand bought it. I got a good feeling about this bass

OK, I mailed the guy who owns this bass and he wants to sell it for equivalent of ~60 quid. I guess that's a fair price for an India made Encore? Worst case scenario: neck's busted and I'll end up with a set of tuners, decent P-Bass body and set of nice PU's for project at a fair price, right?

[quote name='Myke' timestamp='1385045364' post='2283794'] I have my eye on that Jazz kit! [/quote] Me too. If I will not win the Encore P-bass auction, I'd consider buying this set for some serious custom work