paul, the

[quote name='doczoc' post='74149' date='Oct 14 2007, 02:18 PM']I'm slightly concerned about your comments on putting flatwounds on, I didn't realise it would be so involved, I was just going to pop them on. I'll certainly look into that thread on truss rod adjustment- thanks for the heads up.[/quote] Glad you're happy with your TE, the penny pinching definitely appeals to my nature.My GAS means that I can have all the angles covered when giving recommendations. I didn't mean to scare you about the flatwounds and you'll probably be fine - a little additional knowledge wouldn't go a miss though just incase anything goes banana shaped. A bass neck is basically a long thick bit of wood, a long thin bit of wood with a metal rod. Putting higher tension, heavier strings on the neck will unlikely go unnoticed. You should be fine stringing the bass. As mentioned, just make sure you replace one string at a time rather than taking all of one set off and then putting all of the new set on. Due to the size of the strings it will be a bit laborsome once you get onto the A and E but you should be OK. Due to the thickness you wont get many rounds on the A and E machine head so you might find yourself taking them off again and cutting them down. A good idea is to tune the strings as you add them to give the neck some time to get used to the strings - giving them a gentle upwards tug each time until they pretty much hold tune. Then do a back stitch type thing when you add additional strings. That's how I tune anyway.

[url="http://machrone.net/usbguitar/"]http://machrone.net/usbguitar/[/url] I like this. Bassy possibilities>?

Welcome Chris. A chainsaw, peh. Now a spoon, that would have earnt some respect. Grade 8 - fwar I'm grade 9 and a half

It sounds like you've got a great deal there Marcus.

[quote name='TheBrokenDoor' post='73723' date='Oct 13 2007, 11:32 AM']You can hear the bass at [url="http://www.myspace.com/frameworkmusic"]www.myspace.com/frameworkmusic[/url] and check out 'Hot Legs'. I may give recording some samples a go later today but my strings are very 'one-trick pony' at the mo (dead rounds). To me, this is the vintage precision sound. It honestly makes no sense to me having a precision without a darkstar!!!! Dan[/quote] It sounds really hard and dry - really suits the music style. I love the music by the way!

It seems so. I like the extra charge options. That's nice of them.

This is something I'm really looking forward to. When I first joined the forum I was surprised that the technique and theory section was such a baron wasteland. Perhaps this section will be BCs redemption.

[quote name='doczoc' post='73690' date='Oct 13 2007, 09:49 AM']Thanks Paul thats a great answer, much appreciated! I'll check out the V-Tone before trading in the trace elliot (it has mixed reviews - Harmony Central reviewers seem to like it but other forums say don't touch it with a barge pole). I don't have lots of monies to spend but I do believe in the notion that you get what you pay for. I'm going to stick with the Peavey Foundation because it's raved about all over the net and I love the slender neck for my stubby fingered hands LOL If anything I'll look into modding it, rather than replacing it (if that works out more cost effective!). I'm slightly confused by your comment about choosing a bass with pickups close to the neck and then recommendeinga Precision, looking at images of it the pickups are near the bridge, am I missing something? My Peavey has one near the bridge then another about two thirds the distance from the bridge to the neck. My main beef with the Trace Elliot is that its hisses a lot at low level but if I turn it up loud enough to mask the hiss it rattles the house! It also buzzes when I'm playing the E string. This might be a stupid question but is there a head unit I could buy with a headphone socket? I have great pair of Sehhheiser monitoring headphones which would not colour the sound at all so I'm thinking if I just buy an amp I can use the phones and have a decent piece of gear for the future. Alternatively I was thinking about getting one of those tiny practise amps like a pocket rockit, or maybe something like an ashdown after eight or Orange CR20B, I want something that sounds good at low levels without hissing! I know there's a trade off between power and tone but that would be my ideal wish list. Can you eloborate on the foam tip for me Paul? Whats does that do, what should I stick it with? I ordered some La Bella medium gauge flatwounds, James Jamerson signature, think they might be a little stiff for a beginner but probabably good in the long run. I'm hoping these give me that dark thick tone I crave. Completely agree with you Ferret, I was worried that my post might look like I'm looking for 'funk in a can' I appreciette that bass mastery is the paramount requirement here, but I figure having appropriate gear, strings and set up is part of the formula too! Thanks again! Edit, again typos, I'm using a wireless keyboard and I think the batteries are going, keeps missing key presses![/quote] Those Peaveys are great! A revolution in starter instruments in my opinion. You're absolutely right about the Precision not really having a neck pickup - not so much as a Gibson EB0, Hofner or many of the other vintage semis. A beefy pickup in the Precision spot would suffice (which you've got) for getting a big warm vintage tone. This isn't always the case though, as MusicMan basses can be very warm also. If you don't like your Trace Elliot and you can afford to change it, change it. As mentioned, for the tone you're after a 15" speaker would be ideal (and often cheaper than other variations). There's no reason an amp should hiss, an amp may not be silent but it shouldn't bother you while practicing at any level. [quote name='doczoc' post='73690' date='Oct 13 2007, 09:49 AM']This might be a stupid question but is there a head unit I could buy with a headphone socket?[/quote] Yes, you can get heads and combos with headphone inputs. [url="http://search-desc.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=%28amp%2C+combo%2C+amplifier%2C+head%29+%28headphone%2C+headphones%2C+head+phones%29&sacat=58719%26catref%3DC6&fts=2&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=DT4+0NR&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&sabdlo=&sabdhi=&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp="]Here's a good ebay search[/url] - just filter by price and HC reviews and you're laughing. Put "15" in before the brackets and you'll (mostly) only get combos with a 15 in them. My best advise with the little practice amps is to try them out. This is often the biggest market for small music shops so you should have loads of choice. You can also filter ebay searches by distance and find one near to you. [quote name='doczoc' post='73690' date='Oct 13 2007, 09:49 AM']Can you eloborate on the foam tip for me Paul? Whats does that do, what should I stick it with? I ordered some La Bella medium gauge flatwounds, James Jamerson signature, think they might be a little stiff for a beginner but probabably good in the long run. I'm hoping these give me that dark thick tone I crave. Completely agree with you Ferret, I was worried that my post might look like I'm looking for 'funk in a can' I appreciette that bass mastery is the paramount requirement here, but I figure having appropriate gear, strings and set up is part of the formula too! Thanks again![/quote] +1 to Bassferret. The foam gives you that soft, short uprighty thud that so many motown fans melt over. You needn't stick it in, if it's the right size the strings will hold it in place. Those are some mighty strings you've ordered. Warning: they will feel very different. Expect you bass to go out of tune the further up the neck you go (intonation). Expect first time flatwound pain (larger surface area). Expect high tension. Expect unbeatable tone with patience. If you don't like them they'll have good resale value (are you in the UK?). Make sure you replace the strings one at a time or you'll likely get neck problems. Have a search on basschat for truss rod adjustment. You'd be pleasantly surprised how little you need to spend for a great tone (although it helps to have a 9" finger diameter and 20years of upright experience): Warm strings start from about £13, Behringer BDI 21 - under £20 used, [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tech-21-Sansamp-Landmark-120-15-Bass-Amp-Combo-preamp_W0QQitemZ330170595653QQihZ014QQcategoryZ58719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]decent combo[/url] - possibly under £150 used, foam = free. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2533&hl=foam+bridge"]Foam mute thread[/url] I currently have a bit of stuck back padding on a piece of bubble wrap

[quote name='low note lee' post='73652' date='Oct 13 2007, 03:16 AM']that was my comment! [/quote] Genius!

[quote name='Mike' post='72577' date='Oct 11 2007, 07:52 AM']Dear oh dear. Guitar player's not much better! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amw4Kegu4b0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amw4Kegu4b0[/url][/quote] "you are teaching a new generation of w*nkers." +1

Ridiculous power surely?

Happy reunion elom. Bass missed you too.

I think it all depends on the person and their environment and background. I don't believe anyone can become a virtuoso musician, thus the very nature and power that the word holds. If one desires to grasp what they cannot obtain it may only lead to suffering anyway. Was Jaco not severely depressed? Regardless of his love of music and his ability to produce it, it did not make him happy. Find peace with your natural ability. Be proud of your personal achievement and steady improvement.

Oh, that's a great tone and a great track! Similar to motown but a little darker and duller. A flatwound strung bass with a pickup near the neck (Precision preferably) played through a 15 would be a great start and not necessarily expensive. In the meantime!!: roll off the treble, turn up the bass, finger pick/thumb close to the neck or over the neck pup and stick a piece of foam under the strings next to the bridge. You may want to try one of these: [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_vtone_bass_bdi21_analog_modeling_preamp.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_vtone_b...ling_preamp.htm[/url] --- If you've got some monies to spend: Flats, 15 extension cab or replace the combo. If you've got lots of monies to spend: A big juicy valve powered amp and a nice Precision.

Sexy pickguard! and the DS looks great. Any soundclips in the works?

Your drumbing is as good as my spelling. --- I was a little offended by your first response. It's wrong to stereotype the 'nature people', they don't all live in the stone ages or practice inbreeding. I, in fact am thinking of becoming a 'nature person'. I'm interested in living a simpler and I have a very attractive cousin.