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Thanks for your input guys. Some food for thought there. I probably will never get to the bottom of who the mystery bassist was/is on the album, but I'm going to give it my best shot. BetaFunk, you could be right about David Bennett Cohen playing keyboards and Wilton Felder on bass. Another possible canditate for the bass chair is Max Bennett who played on a lot of Tom Scott albums in the early days. EDIT : I have just had a quick listen to BetaFunk's cilp above. The tone and style certainly sounds like the bass on the album.

Thanks for your reply Len. I'll try that. Posted over on TB also, but no joy there. It is no big deal if I don't find out. Just thought it would be nice to find out what bassist I have being listening to for the last forty three years......and who the rest of the band were too.

I was recently playing this LP (it was never released on CD, and there are no songs from it on You Tube) and admiring the great all round playing on it, not least from the bassist. I have always loved this album and give it an airing from time to time. It is dated 1970 and AFAIK was a one off studio session. Neither the pianist, drummer or bassist were credited, which I think is a shame, as IMO they make the album what it is. I was wondering (I know it's a long shot ) does anyone have an idea who the bassist was/is on the session ? While the basic structure of the music is obviously blues, this bassist really puts his mark on the music and is very well up in the mix. I'm curious as to who he was. Details about the band/album are sketchy, but the links below might jog someone's memory. [url="http://www.discogs.com/Revolutionary-Blues-Band-Revolutionary-Blues-Band/release/2392291"]http://www.discogs.com/Revolutionary-Blues-Band-Revolutionary-Blues-Band/release/2392291[/url] [url="http://www.worldsoul.com/en/revolutionary-blues-band_2570"]http://www.worldsoul.com/en/revolutionary-blues-band_2570[/url]

If it means avoiding potential injury, then it might be worth people's time to adapt some of his techniques.

[quote name='TheBear' timestamp='1361859509' post='1991948'] Hopefully in 10y I'll be a bassist [/quote] With regular structured practice, you will be surprised at the progress you can make. Best of luck with it.

It would be a good idea to have your doctor refer you to a physiotherapist or some kind of specialist. All the advice given so far is excellent, but you require medical advice for your particular problem. The practical things you can do would be to always use a strap when playing. As has been mentioned already, be aware of your posture and try to have the body relaxed. Some kind of a harness strap might be a good investment also (see link...this particular one is expensive though ). [url="http://www.gruvgear.com/duostrap-signature"]http://www.gruvgear.com/duostrap-signature[/url]

[quote name='TheBear' timestamp='1361704848' post='1989393'] I really want to hit the ground here and become a solid bass player (and not only repeat Tab and get stuck if the band start to impro a bit). [/quote] Yeah, tab can be handy sometimes to learn fast passages or when the bass is not very clear in a song. Generally though, it leads to a dead end, and is best avoided. Better to learn standard music notation. It is also much better to train your ear by playing along to music and figuring out the bass lines yourself.

[quote name='TheBear' timestamp='1361691396' post='1989244'] What i miss / can't figure out is a logical progression on what to work / "when" and what's the best progression to get solid ground (No sure I'm 100% clear though). [/quote] Yes, this is the big disadvantage of learning on your own. There is so much information out there that sometimes it is hard to know where to start. What is needed are lessons where one builds on the information gleaned from the previous one. Otherwise, by jumping in the middle, you may come across something you dont understand and have to back pedal, thus wasting time. This is why I recommended the [url="http://www.studybass.com/study-guide/"]http://www.studybass.com/study-guide/[/url] site. It goes from ground zero to beyond intermediate level chronologically. My advice is to go to the start of the site (linked above). If you are happy that you know lesson one, then move on until you reach your level, then take it from there.

[quote name='louisthebass' timestamp='1361646917' post='1988827'] Not sure what level you're at, but if you're looking at good bass books, Ed Friedland's are very good indeed. His electric bass complete vols 1-3 is a very good book for getting your head around the basics and getting up to an intermediate standard. His walking bass books are very good too if you like jazz. If you're beyond the beginner standard - Scott Devine has a series of video lessons that comprise lessons for beginners to advanced [url="http://www.scottsbasslessons.com"]www.scottsbasslessons.com[/url], and Joe Hubbard [url="http://www.joehubbardbass.com"]www.joehubbardbass.com[/url] is also starting his own series of video lessons in April (possibly for a subscription fee). These guys are top notch. Hope this helps? [/quote] +1 to all above. I would like to add [url="http://www.studybass.com"]www.studybass.com[/url] as a great all round site.

We usually prefer the studio version. This way, if we want to put our own personal stamp on the song, at least we are all starting from the same point.

[quote name='bertbass' timestamp='1361050886' post='1980514'] The stair lift is not such a stupid idea. [/quote] Perhaps not, but not really practical either IMO. What about gig venues where the live music is upstairs.....sometimes maybe two flights ? Not much use here.

Scott Devine has a good modes lesson here : [url="http://scottsbasslessons.com/welcome-to-the-shed"]http://scottsbasslessons.com/welcome-to-the-shed[/url]

[quote name='fumps' timestamp='1360855819' post='1977500'] Hey mate I don't think I have ever been offended by anything you have ever stated on BC Nige, your posts are always well defined, thought provoking & also respectful to other peoples feelings. In all the time I have had the privileged to be a part of this community I have never seen you say or do anything to be anything but a good person which is why I always respect your views & opinions.Sometimes it doesn't come out right but your intent is always correct. Though I have noticed lately that there is a bit of an era of confrontation within this very site of which I feel a bit fed up of seeing. Arguments over daft stuff that has no actual bearing over real life. It just seems so silly. Not so long ago I had two pieces of bad news, news that really made me question who I am & what really is important in life, it's times like these you look at how you spend your time & think I could get more out of life than what I'm getting, I just need to sort out the negative things from the positive. And that's when I realised that arguing & confrontation is not something to seek out, it's not worth even taking part in unless you are going to get something out of it that really matters. Life is something we all have & we waste our times talking about all the bad things that are. life to a point is hard & sometimes very unforgiving, so why spend our private time talking about negative things when we could achieve so much more ? We all have a passion for the same thing, we a lovers of music in various guises we create music. We do fantastic things, we create songs & play music we love with all our hearts and we do it because it feels good. so why get involved in arguments that don't feel good ? It just doesn't make any sense at all to me. Time is something I don't want to spend on negative things anymore, life should be better than this. [/quote] Great post. Should be pinned IMO.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1360761787' post='1975973'] That ok? [/quote] It's all the same to me. I just wanted to have a peep at this thread to see why an apology should take up so many pages. I'm off to find more interesting threads.

This thread seems to be developing into a bit of an argument, just like the Beatles one. Why cant people just let it go ? The guy had the guts to apologize. The apology was accepted. That should be the end of it. It just seems like arguing for the sake of it.

Congratulations !! The JB2 is a great and very under rated bass, as are most G&L basses.

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1360655304' post='1973939'] So, for me, it's a G&L SB2. Astonishing tone and a Jazz neck (so I can actually play the thing), plus an extra pickup for more tonal versatility. [/quote] +1 for the SB2. Always overlooked and under rated.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1360329066' post='1968682'] The one thing I've not been able to nail in 35+ years of playing is to be able to play everything while not looking at what my hands are doing. I get so far and then I either have to look or I find that I'm a fret sharp or flat. People go on about muscle memory, but I just don't seem to have it. I have a sneaking suspicion that it is another symptom of the condition that most obviously manifests itself as dyslexia... [/quote] I'm sure that no one plays through a whole gig without looking at the fretboard. As for being a fret either side of the correct one, well... we are only human after all. Again, I am sure that even the top bassists dont have an error free gig/concert. Everyone makes mistakes, the trick is to recover fast from it.

He has learned a lot in his first lesson. I notice he is already using the "Floating Thumb" technique.

My advice is to listen to as many blues artists and bassists as you can. Bassists would include Duck Dunne, Tommy Shannon, Nathen East, Willie Dixon, and John Mc Vie. Artists would be, John Mayall, Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Taj Mahal, Buddy Guy and Freddy, Albert and BB King. I would also recommend getting Ed Friedland's book on blues bass. Comes with a CD. [url="http://www.amazon.com/Blues-Bass-Essential-Techniques-Supplement/dp/0634089358"]http://www.amazon.com/Blues-Bass-Essential-Techniques-Supplement/dp/0634089358[/url] Here is a great blues forum : [url="http://blindman.fr.yuku.com/"]http://blindman.fr.yuku.com/[/url]

Nice playing on both clips, and he does not feel the need for a five string to do it.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1359714300' post='1959090'] Surely only a blinkered bassist sees it as an either/or situation. Sometimes you are going to need to rounds and sometimes you are going to need flats. A truly versatile bassist has basses with flats and basses with rounds to cover all eventualities. [/quote] +1. In most flats/rounds threads, I very seldom come across people who claim to like both. Each type has it's own niche music. Personally, I have a place in my heart (and my music ) for both.

Most "Steely Dan" songs should fit the bill. Here is one to start you off : [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laxi4GTOTq0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laxi4GTOTq0[/url]

I love the early Crusaders material. Here is a taste : [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6F8yUdg6ls"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6F8yUdg6ls[/url]

It is par for the course when looking for new band members. I think it boils down to people thinking they are better than they are. Then when it comes to the crunch, they get cold feet.