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Read /busk virtually anything...Pretty handy on guitar as well
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Obscure Musical Backwaters - The Great SGC Nanyo Thread
Beneath It All replied to Happy Jack's topic in Bass Guitars
Anyone see the one that sold on ebay 2 days ago for £130..Jap,gold bits,active f/less ..Bargain of the week methinks.. -
Pedulla Thunderbass 5-String For Sale
Beneath It All replied to Stuart Clayton's topic in Basses For Sale
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[quote name='Old Horse Murphy' post='69557' date='Oct 4 2007, 04:28 PM']I never heard anything back after my last email to you.... [/quote] *****************************PM'd
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[quote name='Old Horse Murphy' post='66549' date='Sep 27 2007, 06:20 PM']I've seen a lot of reviews about Lakland 5 strings mostly (DJ's) but would like to know how these compare to Sandbergs or even Lakland Joe Osborns. There's even a few G&L L2500's that look the business too. I've always been quite samey in my taste of basses (Fender or Musicman) and I'd like to see what else is out there. I must admit, I'm not particularly looking to invest in one right this moment (having just had to spend £600 on new brakes for my car and a service imminent too !!), but in the near future I'd certainly look at maybe getting one as a contrast to my Stingray 5 string. Any opinions would be appreciated.[/quote]...............Does that mean you're no longer interested in my Jazz 5 ?!!!
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Is there a bass line that you just couldnt do?
Beneath It All replied to Bass_In_Yer_Face's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='bilbo230763' post='69378' date='Oct 4 2007, 10:05 AM']I think there is a point to be made here. Many of these monster bass lines/solos are played by people in an improvised setting. Take Jaco's 'Havona'. He didn't have to 'learn' that bass line as he had constructed his lines around the tunes he had written and used a couple of dozen of his own stock licks. Anyone who has spent any length of time listening to Jaco will know that he, like all musicians, repeats himself over and over, using his own signature licks to leave his mark on a piece. But it is important to note that much of what he does is made up on the spot ('Teen Town' being an obvious exception). It is actually a [b]lot[/b] harder to learn a passage that is played like that than it is to burn one of your own. In a more conventional setting, someone like Bruce Foxton would have written a line that felt comfortable under his fingers and that he could play without too much difficulty. Noone in their right mind would compose a complex line for a song that he could pull off only 3/10 times. Someone once said 'amateurs practice until they get it right. Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong'. Geddy Lee plays that solo lick off 'YYZ' perfectly everytime. It can't be hard for him as a, he wrote it and b, he has played it 200 times a year ever since. But have you heard him crucify 'Girl From Ipanema'? Easiest song in the world and he f***s it up! Francis Prestia is known as THE finger style funk player but that's all he does. He can barely put together a jazz bass solo, probably can't play a fretless in tune and definately can't read music. It is more important to play musically and to your strengths than it is to be able to execute every great line you have ever heard. Work on your technique, yes, but learn to play the music not the musicians! And don't get dispondent you can't pull off 'Red Right Returning' by Michael Manring. He probably can't play 'Ace of Spades' like Lemmy either (can you?)...*********************You make some great points, particularly paragraphs 2&3..However, I think your take on Jaco is way off base [ no pun intended ]...I would contend that his tunes/solos were honed to the very last note,particularly Havona [ my fave bass line ]..I could accept that stuff like Come on Come over or The Chicken may be off the cuff and in fact maybe even Teen Town,as it's based on a simple 4 bar recurring motif of 13th chords but as for the rest of his stuff I suggest a lot of thought was involved and very little left to chance.....Where do Iget to hear Geddy Lee playing Ipanema?[/quote] -
Is there a bass line that you just couldnt do?
Beneath It All replied to Bass_In_Yer_Face's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='john_the_bass' post='66268' date='Sep 27 2007, 07:02 AM']we've (bizarrely) been asked to do a wedding in November and have to learn some covers. I'm struggling with going underground by the Jam and have resorted to winging it now - I've only spent about 5 hours on it and it's not bad, but I can't get the rhythms spot on - it shifts between 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4[/quote].... I was curious to hear of the tune shifting between 3 4 & 5 so I just downloaded it and had my first listen[of course I'd heard the track before without paying it much attention - not my bag etc....], and surprise,surprise - It never moves away from 4/4!!!....I guess you're being thrown by the bass intro, which actually starts on the & of beat 3.... -
Thanks for that guys...
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Is there a bass line that you just couldnt do?
Beneath It All replied to Bass_In_Yer_Face's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='fleamail' post='66287' date='Sep 27 2007, 09:30 AM']Jaco! You can never come close to his tunes[/quote]....WRONG!...Whilst in no way comparing myself with 'God'...i think I've been pretty close to many of his tunes [in my yoof!]...I think if you listen to someone long enough and try to get inside that persons' head, then assuming you have the talent in the first place,what comes out will inevitably sound similar...Must admit though,Could never play Havona at tempo!.......Like to bet that Laurence Cottle could do a pretty mean impersonation.. -
[quote name='lonestar' post='67412' date='Sep 29 2007, 04:28 PM']Good wasn't it? Cracking band, but I agree not the easiest material to listen too. I miss Weather Report. Shame about Joe's passing. There is a transcription of Havona in last months Bass Player mag. Now that's what happens when the bass player writes a tune! Wish I could play more than a couple of bars of it. One day perhaps???[/quote]........there are loads of Jaco transcriptions,and plenty of other stuff at Lucas pickfords website,and it's free....Thanks Lucas!!
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[quote name='chris_b' post='2824' date='May 20 2007, 11:57 AM']I suppose everyone should own a valve amp, I have, as I started playing when valve was the only option. But I my opinion these days valve is more trouble than its worth. The worst amp I ever owned was a Boogie 400+, hundreds of expensive valves and always blowing one. OK, so I know that amp had a problem, which was never identified, but you can't accept unreliable equipment. The best amp I owned was a Dynacord BS412, which was solid state and a fabulous sound. The current SVT3 has a valve pre-amp and mosfet power section. That is as far as I'll go on valves now and this seems to be a good combination. Spend as much as you can, then a bit more. High end bass gear seems to be mosfet these days, Epifani, Markbass, EA, Eden etc. High end hi-fi got rid of valves years ago, until you get to the stupidly expensive stuff. Even if you get a wonderful valve amp you will always Di through a valveless PA system. No one expects to use valves in a PA system do they? In my opinion it is a myth that valves sound better. They are different, but an average bass and bad technique will affect your sound much more than the amp you play through. If you want to improve your sound put your favourite amp through a good speaker.... in my opinion EV's are the best sounding speaker you can get. A good cab with an EV will really make you go WOW!![/quote]........DITTO THAT!
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[b][/b][i][/i]Hi Again...Thought this might be of interest...My custom built MM by Haigh Guitars,Wakefield..Made in 1997..Body is Brazilian Mahogany with Walnut tint finish...One piece USA hard rock maple neck.34" scale with walnut infill strip at rear and vintage camber..Pickup and Actives are Kent Armstrong...Ibanez tuners, Goto bridge,celluloid pickguard...Excellent instrument that's done it's fair share of work,has a few dings neck/frets OK,,plays better than any MM I've owned.....Does show some signs of being built by someone new to the business[as he was in '97]...neck screws slightly out of line and the use of 4-a-side tuners.!....Great bass though.....Given that it's a bit of an unknown quantity,It would be preferable to view..Looking for £275 with Bass Centre gigbag
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[quote name='Road Dog' post='61527' date='Sep 17 2007, 09:58 AM']Come on guys... 1 hour to go [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320158333417&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=011"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...E:IT&ih=011[/url] you could get a Musicman Sub and a hiscox case for £400[/quote]...................I would have thought the price was a bit too high personally - I tried the Sub passive & active [£150 & £250 paid], and neither of them sounded close to the Stingray although I did love the feel of the neck..
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[quote name='sirmontofgue' post='45295' date='Aug 14 2007, 04:06 PM']I've got the chance of buying a Peavey Max 700 Peavey TVX 410 For about £300 for the lot. What do people think of Peavey gear and is this a good price? Thanks[/quote]...Offer £275 and snap his hand off[assuming the condition is OK]
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The Perception of Bass Players
Beneath It All replied to bass_in_ya_face's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='nig' post='61250' date='Sep 16 2007, 05:27 PM']We are the shamen, we bridge music and rhythmn, we are so damn important that nobody knows we are there until it goes tits up. I love us ![/quote] .......rhythmn???? -
Need to reduce the weight of my cabs..Am curious to know what you guys thing of the Epifani stuff and anything else comparable..How reliable are Neo Dym spkrs?...Cheers
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The Perception of Bass Players
Beneath It All replied to bass_in_ya_face's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='hipbass' post='61244' date='Sep 16 2007, 05:20 PM']As a freelancer for the past 30 years, I think I can say that in reality,the Bassmeister is generally accepted the one who "holds it all together", MOST drummists would be lost without the innate sense of time inherent in an experienced pro bassist...[Apologies to Vinnie,Steve,Jeff,Bonzo et al][/quote] ...................................p.s.I almost became an accountant in the 70's! -
The Perception of Bass Players
Beneath It All replied to bass_in_ya_face's topic in General Discussion
As a freelancer for the past 30 years, I think I can say that in reality,the Bassmeister is generally accepted the one who "holds it all together", MOST drummists would be lost without the innate sense of time inherent in an experienced pro bassist...[Apologies to Vinnie,Steve,Jeff,Bonzo et al] -
[quote name='ali-stare' post='60950' date='Sep 15 2007, 07:52 PM']in answer to your questions no i wont be playing with the rest of the band no i cant get hold of the last bass player no i wont be needing to sight read thanks for all your input[/quote] .............................................Seems like a very odd scenario; Jazz band audition with no sight reading involved ..Do the rest of the band read?