spinynorman

Is that Swordfish? Most of the small shops in the centre seem to have gone. Reddingtons is only online, and has the worst website you can imagine. http://www.reddingtonsrarerecords.co.uk/

If you like old vinyl [url="https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=the+diskery+birmingham&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=the+diskery&hnear=0x4870942d1b417173:0xca81fef0aeee7998,Birmingham,+West+Midlands&cid=0,0,16333753230514475680&ei=rkdLUO3hBo2r0AXa4IDQDA&sqi=2&ved=0CH8Q_BIwAw"]The Diskery[/url] is worth a bit of a trek onto Bristol Road/Bromsgrove Street. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhQVBxvkwwU

The M&S ad came on, my wife said "That's a great song, who is it?", so I went on Google and found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKxGzm98AU but also [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I53o0OWpZ8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I53o0OWpZ8[/url] which is the same track attributed to Iggy Pop (did he even record that song?) And then this stunningly confident reply on wikianswers http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_iggy_pop_write_I_never_met_a_girl_like_you_before and this http://wiki.answers.com/Q/David_Bowie_lyrics_I_never_knew_a_girl_like_you_before Is this the most mis-attributed song on the internet?

[quote name='bremen' timestamp='1347031535' post='1796258'] If I hear just one more bloody limerick I think that I'm going to be verysick. At the drop of a hat there's one on Basschat Still, unlike my offerings they tend to rhyme nicely and all the syllablesfit [/quote] I'm reporting you to the Police Doggerel Unit.

Great song. Love the bass, you can't beat a P with flats.

Judging by Them Crooked Vultures, he hasn't forgotten how to do it.

Thanks for posting that, very interesting and good luck with your thesis.

There was a young lady of Uck Who had the most terrible luck. She fell from a punt Whilst sat in the front And landed on top of a duck.

Seems to be a lot of places that have live music till 11, which I assume is a licensing issue, but continue with a disco afterwards. It's often loud and you can hear it outside, so I really don't see what the difference is. I also don't understand why the people that complain about pub-related disturbance and "anti-social behaviour" focus on live music, but are quite happy about big screen soccer. There's never been trouble at any pub gig I've been to and afterwards people go home happy. When the soccer pubs turn out, there's always drunken chanting, loud unpleasant arguments and usually a couple of fights.

I'm starting an orginals cover tribute band.

Is this the real tribute band thread? I'm becoming disorientated.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1346973031' post='1795673'] A tribute band on room service, that's excellent. 'Hello, is that reception?' 'Ah, good, can you send up ABBA please.' [/quote] Two's company, three's a power trio, four's a tribute band. So I phoned reception, asked for Bjorn Again, and they sent up a Billy Graham video.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1346955719' post='1795362'] Your away on business and your evenings entertainment local to your hotel is .. A. A bar with a neon sign outside saying "girls" B. A bar with a sign saying Neo nazi night C. A bar with "tribute bands night" advertised Which option do you take, not wanting to degrade yourself? [/quote] I'm staying in with room service.

So, before the 1960s the assumption was song writers would be employed to write songs, often a lyricist would write the lyrics and a composer the music. Then singers and bands (proper bands with horns) would play the songs. Popular songs would be played by several bands and if you wanted to dance at your Ladies' Night you would employ a local band to play a selection of these popular songs. We now know this was lazy, and what they should have done was make the local band leader compose and arrange some songs of his own and play those, even if they weren't popular. In the 1960s someone decided to cut out the middle man and let a load of scruffy lads write their own songs, despite knowing little about music and only being able to pass on the tune to other musicians by strumming a guitar and humming. Although this deprived many future composers and lyricists of a living, it was a great leap forward and laid the foundations for Elton John, who might otherwise have been stuck in a semi in Pinner, writing music for other people.

[quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1346970758' post='1795643'] .......... and Frank Spencer Tributes..... and Curiosity Killed the Cat Tributes.... [/quote] A Frank Spencer tribute band. I'd pay to see that.

[quote name='bertbass' timestamp='1346952297' post='1795308'] I wear a hat and positively hate to see music stands on stage. Learn the song. As a hat wearer what category am I in? [/quote] I had to get our singer a stand that clips discretely on the side of the mic stand. Hard to find at the time. She knows the songs, doesn't even look at the words when performing, but would go completely to pieces if they weren't there.

What about berets? Seems to be the headgear of choice for blues bass players and jobbing members of Jethro Tull. And the US Olympic team.

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1346929277' post='1794877'] In a seafront bar at Scheveningen in Holland I watched a HM band who didn't come on until 11pm. The way they were dressed I assumed they were a tribute to a Dutch band I'd never heard of or they had a dated impression as to how a HM band should look; they out-scarved Steve Tyler on the mic stand for eg. But they were very good and so loud that it wouldn't have been allowed in the UK. I followed the crowd and had steak & frites while I watched too; which would be unusual to be available as an option here at that time of night. [/quote] I've got Dutch relatives, and I've always noticed a much more relaxed attitude to people having fun in public, even if it's noisy. Scheveningen being seaside would be even more so. I think our glorious puritan history and stupid licensing laws are mostly to blame. The Robin at Bilston used to do hot pork rolls after gigs, but that's about the nearest to civilised I've found here. I went to the pre-election meeting for our prospective tory MP. It's a small town with a good sense of community, a number of good pubs and a low crime rate, but the hear the miserable sods at that meeting, you'd think it was Los Angeles. "We never had all this trouble when the pubs weren't open 24 hours" was my favourite. We live on the street where most of the pubs are and we've had one bottle through the window in 17 years, and a couple of fights.

This really does need to be pinned, otherwise in 6 months time we'll have go through it all again. (Is it my eyesight, or might the Dagenham Girl Piper third from the left - with the drum - be alright, albeit a bit young for some of us?)

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1346878481' post='1794508'] Do they do promotional T-shirts? [/quote] http://dailymash.shotdeadinthehead.com/product_view.aspx?pid=3687

The case goes back to 2003, and though the RIAA pursued existing cases, they gave up new lawsuits in 2008, as it just wasn't working, and they were getting some really bad PR going after the unemployed, children, dead people and the occasional pensioner who didn't own a computer. Fortunately their reach only extends within the US. The legal calculation of damages is all very well, but what the RIAA did was to go after often vulnerable people in a very aggressive way, demanding large out of court payments from the start, without any kind of warning. Victims were frightened into admitting guilt, without finding out what actual evidence there was against them. The RIAA generally had next to no evidence that would stand up in court, their discovery methods were suspect and they lost cases that were properly tested. It also cost them much more to bring the lawsuits than they recovered. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122966038836021137.html http://news.portalit.net/fullnews_riaa-loses-lawsuit-has-to-pay-up_764.html http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2006/07/7257-2/ http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-riaa-paid-its-lawyers.html There's still a massive industry lobby working on governments everywhere, not just in the US, and that's behind some of the changes to legislation here which would put the onus on ISPs to identify and shut down serial sharers and downloaders. The ISPs aren't too happy about that, for obvious reasons.

So, if a band write their own songs, but still sound like Coldplay, are they an originals band, or a bunch of self-obsessed irritating tosspots? Similarly girls with acoustic guitars whining on about their awful boyfriends and the endless procession of battle of the bands entrants who think it's still cool to sound like Slipknot. And the equally endless stream of guitarists straining to prove that Stevie Ray Vaughan and Gary Moore didn't die in vain (and some of those have even got famous).

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1346853282' post='1794059'] Same thing with the Stones. Sod paying £100 just to see them spend most of the night jamming (and with more backing musicians than are in the actual band). Ive seen the Counterfeit Stones many times and always thought they put on a better show, and at a fraction of the cost. [/quote] I think it's disgusting that these poor old geezers should have to go on working like that into their 70s. The government should make sure they get a proper pension and decent sheltered accomodation, give them back some dignity. Most tribute bands do actually leave me pretty cold (although I've been defending them), but the Counterfeit Stones have the perfect blend of musicianship, humour and a bit of theatre. When I first saw them Justin Sandercoe had the Brian Jones/Mick Taylor/Ronnie Wood job and he didn't just change the wig between sets, he changed the way he played. Since he left, he's gone all originals and creative, which is a shame.

[quote name='Spike Vincent' timestamp='1346764199' post='1792813'] Yes. If AC/DC had thought "bugger it,lets be a Status Quo ( or whoever) tribute band then Hells Bells would be out of a job. [/quote] This is assuming that the members of Hells Bells had it in them to write and perform original songs that would bring them commercial success. Which is up there with "everyone has one novel in them". Someone earlier said you wouldn't go to an art gallery to see fakes. But, actually there's a long history of fine art being copied, often by the artist's pupils, and some of these are highly prized. There's also a good business in making fine art reproductions. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16835270 http://fabulousmasterpieces-blog.co.uk/are-copies-of-art-as-good-as-original/ http://www.classicartrepro.com/ Admit it, you tribute band refuseniks, none of your arguments stand up.

I understand the rights ownership issues, but I never have understood how this is a good way of defending them. There's no evidence that it's any significant deterent and there is evidence that it's less effective than providing comprehensive, convenient, reasonably priced legal download services. The scale of the damages look like state-enabled corporate bullying and they can't be collectable, unless it's over a very, very long period of time. I guess that's American business for you, fight the losing battle till the last breath.