Graham

Cheees for that Dingus, strikes me as slightly odd as I always thought ash was more expensive than alder? I'm probably wrong though. I did forget to say, the chap running the bass section in GAK on Saturday was an absolute gent, I didn't get his name, but he was one of the most accomodating sales reps I've come across, despite it being a busy Saturday afternoon (and Brighton was rammed because of the weather, so probably a fair few walk in custom too) he bent over backwards to accomodate me. I've always thought of GAK as a shop that sells brown boxes that happen to contain guitars and amps, but would be more than happy to buy from them now.

Not a lefty are you? As I understand there's an Alleva-Copollo going cheap at the moment........

Jesus, I wouldn't expect to see finish like that on a no-name Chinese Precision copy let-alone a $5k+ instrument that was supposeldy for a trade show! The callousness of Jimmy Coppollo seems staggering, not only was he willing to sell it to this guy, but then would try and dump it on to a distributor or another customer when all the issues had been pointed out (if he wasn't already aware) is just awful. I don't get his attitude - he knocked $700 (what? £400?) off the value, so 12%, to have a very, very expensive instrument look like it was finished by a student, the fret-board looks awful. And, this discount is only for the cosmetic issues, doesn't cover cover the fact that it's essentially unplayable. Now, the odds of me ever owning an Alleva-Coppollo were pretty low anyway, and I've only read the first post in this thread so far, but unless things resolve well for the buyer, Jimmy Coppollo can join John Hall on my "never buy from" list.

[quote name='cocco' timestamp='1376201105' post='2170684'] The laklands have a slightly different circuit than the fenders. I think the main difference is a different rating on the tone pot. [/quote] Now that's interesting, thanks for all the replies, at the moment I can't get the white/maple board one I played out of my head, particularly if I swapped the pickup and tone circuit over for a Lindy Fralin and equivalent tone control.... I didn't realise the Duck Dunn was an ash body, I always asaumed it was alder as it had a rosewood board and a solid finish

I've just got back from GAK where I tried out a couple of 2012 model Fender Precisions one with a rosewood board and one with a maple. They were both very good, I particularly liked the weight (couldn't get over how light they were) and the neck - found it very comfortable. I wasn't blown away by the tone though, there was an awful lot of low end and I had to have the tone on max to get a sound I really liked, it was a sound I liked, but I didn't feel it was as good as my Fralin equiped Lakland Duck Dunn which whilst still unmistakably a P, sounds a lot tighter than the Fenders I played today So it got me wondering about the 8 models as they changed the pups for the 2012 model, did they change anything else? Does anyone have experience of both and can let me know how the pickups in both compare and do the '08 models have the same neck profiles and weight? Cheers

Looks like a Fodera to me, don't know enough about the range to say which one, but it looks like their buttons on it and could be a butterfly on the headstock. Edit: Not so sure now, headstock looks wrong.

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1376058106' post='2169150'] I had a shuttle 9.0 and thought it a bit thin sounding, is the streamliner really such a different animal? Has anyone in/around Sheffield got one I could try / compare to my LMII please? [/quote] Thin is certainly not the word I'd use to describe a Streamliner - buckets of bottom end (first time I've had an amp where I normally have the bass control turned down) but still punchy and defined. From what I've seen of the Shuttle it's a lot more hi-fi sounding and to my ears (admittedly via YouTube) a bit thin and sterile.

I tried both of these amongstsome others when I was in the market for a new amp a few years ago, I ended up buying the Fafner, came close to getting the DB750 though. At the time I needed the clearer tone of the EBS, but would still choose it over an Aguilar again. The DB750 was a very good amp, but a little too much of a one-trick pony - very clean, tubey sound (reminscent of a Mesa 400+) that doesn't really break up. It's a very good sound, but it doesn't quite suit me, whereas with the EBS filters, the Fafner gives you a lot of tone-shaping potential so sounds great in a lot of different situations.

Once had a rattle on a Hartke cab I used to have, took it to the studio to record my band's album but found when playing the low B loudly there was a rattle. Spent half a day tightening every screw we could find and eventually stripping the cab and re-tightening the screws on each driver and the tweeter to no avail; in the end had to drive into London to hire an Ampeg 4x10, which sadly didn't sound quite as good. Later found out when I took it down to a guitar shop in Southampton that there was a bloody great staple on the tweeter magnet which was ratteling when the cab was a pushed hard, somehow missed it in the studio. Once we got it working I part-exed it for an EBS. So I guess what I'm saying is, look for staples, screws etc on the driver magnets.

Doesn't help that it costs a fortune to send anything Royal Mail, and now on top of the postage and packaging costs you've got to pay Ebay a percentage on top. I'm selling a pedal there at the moment and have put the carriage on at £8.50 as that's what it cost me to ship a microphone a couple of months ago, so should be the genuine cost of shipping it (not including packaging, which in fairness I'll nick from work and the petrol/parking costs of going to the post office), but later in the year Ebay will make margin on my costs? seems a bit wrong to me.

similarly, I can't help but think it mental a couple of grands worth of Dingwal only comes with a gigbag, for that money surley they could throw in a hardcase?

That's a great story BassTractor, love it. For me there's 3 that jump to mind, firstly in my old metal band Echovirus we played to a packed out stage at the Download Festival in 2009, okay so it was a tent they put up in the campsite/village area on the Thursday before the festival proper started with a couple of other unsigned bands, so we were only competing with the fairground and the bars for peoples attention but it was awesome and the tent was so full people couldn't get in, got a lot of very complimentary feedback too which was great. Second is the album we did with that band, so what if it cost us thousands and I've got boxes of un-sold copies sat at my parents house, the songs are good, it's a pro-produced album that was available through Amazon, Itunes and Spotify; it was supposed to be available through HMV too but the label never sorted that out. A quick look on Amazon shows you can still get it there too. Never saw any money from the label, but some great stories. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B003B2B5T4/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1375621174&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY190 Thirdly I played with a local covers act, who I now do a fair bit of work for when they played at a nearby racecourse at one of their music and race days; it was supporting a lad off the X-Factor - Jamie 'Afro' Archer and we blew him off the stage, couple of thousand people there, was a great night. Download festival with Echovirus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2amqkjl6dxE& Lingfield Racecourse with Naked Bass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90aVX1oPb4s&

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1375100468' post='2156638'] That'll be somewhat like this one then: [/quote] very similar It would be mine, but the incompetent fools at the Euromillions keep picking the wrong numbers.

One of my favourite basslines to play that, not sure on an effect, off the top of my head I'd have said it was clean but you may well be right. Very fun to play, I never get the timing bang on with the record though in the intro though - never quite where I think it should be.

The photos from the current Rancid tour have Matt Freeman playing one of his Squires, can't tell whether it's an off the shelf one, or a CS with a Squire decal. I'd like to think it was an off the shelf, but if I'm honest, it probably isn't.

There's a gorgeous greenburst ash/maple version of this on Ebay in the States at the moment, looks gorgeous and I'll bet sounds brilliant.

Friday's was pretty good, pub gig with a new dep guitarist, the venue wasn't designed with bands in mind and so wasn't brilliantly laid out for dancers, so we had a few people watching and enjoying themselves but not many dancing. Dep guitarist was fantastic though, could realy play but didn't over do it and had great vocals too - was like having two frontmen, but in a good way, so we just leapt around and had a blast. Paid for it the next day though, shattered and ached all day long. Saturday was a different ketle of fish all round, was a 40th birthday party at an equestrian vetenarian's farm in the middle of nowhere in the Sussex countryside - about half way between Horsham and Cranleigh for anyone local. I'd voiced concerns about the weather to the guitatist from first thing but he was confident we had a waterproof marquee and staging so thought it would be okay........well you can see where this is going: staging turned out to be a couple of pieces of plywood not dramatically bigger than the drumkit and the "marquee" was not exactly waterproof - there was water dripping very close to the electrics and I couldn't find anywhere dry to put my amp to start with. I suggested to the singer that I'd forget the amp tonight and just go through the PA with my Sansamp but he wasn't keen as it only had 12" speakers and he didn't think they would handle the bass frequencies; I disagreed but didn't press the issue as it's his equipment and if he's not happy no point In antagonising him and then have him worry all night. So I ended up putting the amp infront of the snare and hi-hat and squeezing into whatever space was left, fortunatly with my Compact/Steamliner I wasn't taking up all the space left. We decided to play a shorter set than usual and they got about an hour and a half from us, which I think wasn't bad in the circumstances - constantly worrying that the rain was going to get worse and come through the marquee or if we'd get electrical problems from the lightening nearby. And, I almost forgot, virtually no light in the marquee too, singer was using a torch to see his lyric sheets by the end. Still, once we did get started it went pretty well, had dancers at the end after we played Sweet Home Alabama - party had a wild west theme so that seemed to do the trick, and I think played almost flawlessly - probably because I didn't have space to move around much. Was not happy to start with though, almost walked away and I did drop Alex at Barefaced a message this morning saying how happy I was to be able to run to the car through the rain with my cab and most of the rest of my gear rather than drag it on a trolley in several jorneys.

[quote name='Si600' timestamp='1374737363' post='2152484'] Secondly, listening. I don't seem to have the ability to work out a bassline from just listening, I can hear what it's doing and where it's going but I can't catch it. Is this innate or can it be learned? [/quote] Can definetly be learned - I used to be hopeless at it, but am now pretty good, takes a while mind. The best thing that ever happened to my ear was the tab sites being shut down

Aye, as abov, are sure it wasn't a Boss tuner pedal and the overdrive came from the amp?

I forget who made it, but there was a $100000.00 bass in Bass Player magazine a few years ago - it was some ancient piece of wood, with the body and neck covered in gold leaf and real diamond inlays Edit: it was a Ritter, this one infact - Mammoth tusks nut anyone? [quote] The Ritter Royal Flora Aurum, as it’s called, has a body carved from a rare, solid piece of maple while the nut is carved from 10,000-year-old mammoth ivory. The fingerboard is decorated with a floral inlay pattern made of 24-karat gold. There’s even a black diamond set in platinum decorating each leaf. Even the bridge, tuner buttons and knobs are cast in gold. The knobs on this luxurious bass hold an additional embellishment, they’re both topped with brilliant-cut diamonds (3.3 carats total). The Flora Aurum is a work in progress and is on hold for one lucky buyer.[/quote]

Can't find any decent videos of them, but Palehorse are great - 1 drummer, no guitarist, 2 bassists and an angry bloke shouting

[quote name='Billy Dowdall' timestamp='1373925651' post='2143368'] on paper it's perfect for the style of music I player but I just hate the look of it! I might grow to love it though.... I'm really considering the modern player though. It's £200 odd cheaper and very similar specs to the MIM one! [/quote] [quote name='Billy Dowdall' timestamp='1373925651' post='2143368'] on paper it's perfect for the style of music I player but I just hate the look of it! I might grow to love it though.... I'm really considering the modern player though. It's £200 odd cheaper and very similar specs to the MIM one! [/quote] That's a shame, but I know what you mean; you could of course add a jazz bass style after-market pickguard which would look sexy. Unfortunately it would have to be a custom pickguard, but I'm sure The Bass Doc on here could knock one up.