taunton-hobbit

I have Gen1 Dubsters.....they do what I want/need..............

I'm with Conan - this is hair splitting try it/don't try it - I can't get excited about the detail - some people dislike the Company (why, I'm not quite sure, and care even less) - and a lot of people feel the other way - it's life (& bass cabinets)..........

Just thinking aloud, but I wonder if the Orange might benefit from a bias/general checkover? These are a very good amp, should be easily capable of shattering eardrums.......

Nah....you mean OrangeMatamp surely?

I joined about the same time as here, visited twice & thought it wasn't my thing - hence I've never posted over there (as far as I can recall). I like Basschat, it's fairly friendly and mostly not 'up itself'. Mods are good too - I've been on some sites that I won't name - Mods can make or break the thing.

For their time, the noise/distortion was negligible, I was using them flat-out as a fill in a soul disco club (I had a 200watt OrangeMatamp for main grunt). Heft was, in retrospect, a bit lacking.....but they did the job for years without complaint (& I used them on mobile gigs).

I had a couple of Vortexion monoblock 100watt amps in about 1968 - they were transistor & billed as indestructible. Much to Vortexions embarrassment, one blew up on its first gig...oops....they fixed it, took the boast off their publicity and I still had them in a workshop (& working) in 2003....... probably one of the first solid state high power amps.

I can't see a problem with any of the previous points -^ 1) No business is going to chuck xhundred quids worth of stuff out to an unknown customer without payment, not in the real world. 2) £30/40 to send it back is very fair - try hiring good kit for thirty days for that.......... 3) Alex is quite right to require customers to discuss their needs (I used email) - otherwise he could be on the end of a load of 'retail regret' returns. I found Barefaced to be honest, straightforward and keen to 'get it right'. OK, I bought something I like very much, so there is some bias here - -I realise that the sound/design/handles aren't to everyones taste, but Alex must be doing 'something' right !

I've mentioned this before, but a mate used to run a kit hire shop - he swore by Yamaha stuff - said it sounded 'right' and was (almost) idiot-proof plus it hardly ever went wrong..........

AOB - I'm in Torbay, have a couple of BF Dubsters in my lounge - you are welcome to pm me if you would like me to dem some music for you (I'm a sound system, so no real instrument inputs).....it might give you an idea (or two)....

Seems to be turning into a Carlsbro hate thread...... My first 'real' amp was a Grampian 50watt - weighed a ton & sounded like sh*te............

[b]XLS 402[/b][list] [*]4-ohm Stereo (Per Channel): 450W [*]8-ohm Stereo (Per Channel): 300W [*]8-ohm Bridged-Mono: 900W [/list] From the Crown website (discontinued model) hope it helps...... VVVVV umm VVVVV ??- (mine was from the Crown Google site on t'interweb.....)

Sad news - so much talent, so young. We are rapidly running out of our musical icons, it's very unnerving.........

I'm not selling my Dubsters anytime soon...........

There's a bit of a wiff here - it isn't 'exactly' illegal (imo), but the venue is misleading the punters...... It would probably be a good idea to (quietly) sort this out with the landlord for future reference. Personally, I'd probably not play there again - once a place has 'upset' me, I'd find another gig......

If you can get hold of some old-fashioned carpet felt, you can't go wrong.....

I had this with a Marshall 200 rackmount, which sounded like a bluddy tornado. My amptech sorted it by fitting three slower drive fans at the back............

I had two home-built cabs with TWO 18s in each, plus Vitavox 3cell horns....majik!

'Fit for purpose' - is not appropriate here, unless the thing was obviously trashed prior to despatch.

Thanks BA - didn't know that - I only hope that the person on the end of the phone at CAB knows their stuff - I've lived in towns where CAB was staffed by numpties & used as a central needle exchange point..............

Trading Standards might be more use than CAB, who can be very patchy, depending on area, and staffing...........

I always insist on cash on collection. If someone really wants the kit, they will come for a day out at the seaside. They will like where I live, and I'll like their money..... (the kit will be Proper, as well)

I promoted in the 70's and employed many 'big' names. The average amp power seemed to be about 100watts per band member. (I got a lot of envy with the Ormats - smile).

Delighted........of course speakers are vitally important, but I can hear the difference between my Crown (class D - very surgically precise) and my Ormats (major valve grunt).

We're very close to getting on to the 'heft' thing here...........