Raymondo

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1442873388' post='2870236'] We played an RBL club twice in six months. The second time; the committee had changed and the audience was made up of completely different people. [/quote] I played social clubs for ten years and many of them three times a year your experience compared to mine is worlds apart At some in Sheffield you even knew who was going to start the fight before the evening started.

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1442649511' post='2868405'] PaulWarning: Having worked both sides of the Atlantic, I would have to say the standard of players I saw & worked with in the USA absolutely obliterated most of the pub and club bands I see in the UK today. Part of the problem is the number of people like yourself, who do it for the love of playing with no thought to the money aspect. You crowd out a lot of the bad bands, but also reduce the number of paying gigs a professional player can go after. There is a whole other level above lightly-rehearsed amateur bands where a good 4 hour show is perfectly do-able IF you put the time in to get road-hardened. Not easy, but then if you are working at that level it IS your job And 40 songs? When I was working solo in the UK I would play about 50 from a selection of over 300 I had rehearsed up well. Depended on the gig. Life is tough if you decide to make a living at music. FWIW I was making the same or better money as a 4 piece band when working solo, which is WHY I went solo. Paid the mortgage, but very hard work. [/quote] I don't know Paul personally by the way...... Where in his post does it say how much he earns? maybe he earns twice as much as you per gig but wants to enjoy the music,maybe not. The point is this is a forum for BASSPLAYERS ...not PROFESSIONAL BASS PLAYERS ONLY.... I have earned a living from my bass and i have played part time for fun too. I don't hold with this " amateur bass players are taking gigs away from the pros'" nonsense....I've never taken a gig off john Deacon by offering to play Wembley for free ....I would have mind given the chance

Did Bilbo dep on Moondance ?

Not quite the same I know but this reminded me of the stamina we used to have to undertake the following a few times back in the nineties. Meet up and load van at around 5.00 am in Nottingham ....drive to Ramsgate,Ferry to Ostend then drive to Padeborne in Germany. Invariably arrive too late to get to hotel in time as we always had to be on site to set up and sound check before the gig. Play two or three 45min/hour sets between 8.30 and 1.00 am (depending on which Mess we played in...the Officers mess sometimes went on untill breakfast).... then, sleep in the van as the hotel was closed ....we did however manage to persuade the manager to let us use the rooms to nap and freshen up, after they re-opened at 8.30 am ,before setting off for the next gig. Sometimes it was just a Friday and a Saturday gig ,others had a Sunday tagged on too ....then it was a mad dash across Europe to get to Ostend in time to have a few beers and a spag bol in the pub across the road from the ferry before traveling home!... phew I'm knackered just writing about it.

[quote name='simes' timestamp='1440322921' post='2849764'] Made me wonder why we even bother..... [/quote] That is such a forlorn statement. I hope your next one is better for you

There is a tee shirt signed by everyone that took part so it shouldn't be too difficult to work out.

What's not to like? ...See you there!

[quote name='synthaside' timestamp='1438958754' post='2838992'] You might end up prepared for the wrong version ;-) i'd prepare some dirty synth sound just in case [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujcgcvOD_wc"]https://www.youtube....h?v=ujcgcvOD_wc[/url] I'll get me coat :-P [/quote] Arrrghhh My ears,my ears!!! Damn you sir, I had managed to forget that this appalling noise existed ( other opinions are available etc etc)

+1 from me too. Your post reminded me of a documentary I once watched of them recording a track. A quick 'tinternet searched produced this..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT46kIDD8dk If you go down the list there is a posting of the documentary in full but when I tried to imbed that link it didn't work!

I know it's a sample and a bit obvious but, I hate it when the lovely intro to Ventura highway comes on the radio and it ends up being bl**dy Janet Jackson and Someone to call my lover!

ANY of those is better than bl**dy Delta

Two ads for the price of none

Rock covers band, a couple of which have made it into the "off the beaten track covers" thread and a few are in the "Groundhog day covers" thread over in General discussion. It's a bikers pub with great beer,friendly people and a late bar....what's not to like?

[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1437576662' post='2827220'] For the record Ray, they didn't make this tourist happy But quite a few of the other numbers did. [/quote]

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1437573689' post='2827181'] Context is all. Build me up, Buttercup and Sweet Caroline are songs that have taken up residence in social clubs, not in many pub band sets. Don't think I'd want to do Buttercup in a pub but Sweet Caroline would be worth a shot. [/quote] That's interesting and very true. I suppose the tourist bars in Tenerife do have a more "social club" type customer base. I've played more than my fair share of those places in my time They are both staples in Karaoke bars too......yes I have been a Karaoke compare in the past....gotta earn a living some how

[quote name='ColinB' timestamp='1437561893' post='2827005'] Build Me Up, Buttercup - The Foundations Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond [/quote] I am assuming that this is a wind up....in the nicest possible way ColinB....As I had to play these virtually every night of the week when I was earning a living in Tenerife. I hated them both but they did make the tourists happy!

We play Don't stop by Fleetwood Mac and My coo ca choo ,Alvin Stardust. They always get a good response. We finish our night of (mostly) classic rock covers (the kind that appear in the "other thread") with a Monkey man/Lip up fatty mix that always has people dancing and generally larking about. It's the only band I've played in that has covered these but I am willing to accept that they might not make the list as you guys have all probably played them before!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5xMBflnJqY[/media] I remember being absolutely mesmerised by this when I first saw it on Top of the Pops....many,many moons ago.

If we are going to be rating the niceness (or not) of Midland musicians shell, I can vouch for Raymond Froggatt. Thoroughly nice guy,and Hartley Cain. In fact the whole band were brilliant with me and my mates when we met them in the Seventies. Ray always remembered me and shared a pint or two when I went to see him a few times around Notts in the eighties and nineties too. Mind you he did nearly kill my girlfriend with a pool ball back in 1976!

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1436368042' post='2817582'] When we release a CD, it's put up for sale on itunes, amazon etc. but it's also added to these streaming services at the same time. I'm pretty sure we've made more off streaming than we have off downloads ...[b]but we make more money flogging physical products at gigs[/b], which I guess is the same for most smaller bands without financial backing. I don't see a big problem [/quote] I wondered if this was the case.... I recently acted as "sound engineer" at a gig,five acts (all just guitar vocalists) doing covers and originals. Every one of them had business cards telling you about their Facebook page and streaming sites,not one of them had a cd to sell. I would have bought a couple and the audience was,shall we say,similarly elderly? so I am sure a few more could have been sold too.

[quote name='ubit' timestamp='1434631609' post='2801350'] I'm disappointed myself as we had tickets for the Murrayfield gig, had booked accommodation , taken holidays etc. but at least I don't have to put up with a poor substitute. [/quote] Me too....I was looking forward to seeing Royal Blood also Flights and accommodation already paid for so a Monday to Friday Edinburgh trip with my four sons is the order of the day

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1434488169' post='2800177'] Dont know ? They are running at 24 Month waiting list on up from 18 on some basses. They are in profit, unlike Fender ? They pay living wages to American workers and not outsource jobs to China. Who's daft ? You start selling Fake Nike trainers, fake CD's, fake any big brand and see what happens. [b]I don't think he gives a sh*t to be honest, you either want one or you don't. But you are not copying them and thats that.[/b] [/quote] But it's not about copying them that all the fuss is about.....sure go for the Chinese factories that are making them and selling them now ...it's about him going after individuals. I bought an Arbiter copy in 1975, I was 17 and had no Idea that it could have been illegal. I bought it from a reputable shop new. I sold it a couple of years later(oh how I wish I had kept it!!1) and was happy. Fast foreward to Today,if I was selling it now,even though I bought it 40 years ago, in good faith,Mr Hall and his cronies would be on my back straight away. In my opinion he is being unreasonable. I know American copyright law says that he has to be seen to be protecting his patent but going after individuals? really? come on! Attack the manufacturers and the distributors ....they should know by now that they shouldn't be dealing in fakes, but give a kid a break if he bought one twenty/thirty years ago!

[quote name='simon1964' timestamp='1434160488' post='2797293'] If you are involved in the running of an organisation worth £29k perhaps you should have a clue : [url="http://companycheck.co.uk/company/OC376336/CHAT-PARTNERSHIP-LLP"]http://companycheck....PARTNERSHIP-LLP[/url] [/quote] Well using the esteemed Mr Skank's figures,17% of the mods do know what to do. Therefore a pm to one of them and Roberta is your Aunty.....sorted.

[quote name='DorsetBlue' timestamp='1433320039' post='2789966'] Okay, this is for a colleague of mine. His son (14) and friends are in a band and they have been picked to play on a [b]minor stage at a small local festival [/b]in a 'Battle of the Bands' kind of format. They have been told that they will need to provide their own PA, as [b]last year some of the bands claimed they were not very good because of the provided PA.[/b] Now I have never used a PA and neither has my colleague (both Brass players historically) - so we are not sure what level of equipment this would entail. Does anyone have any experience of this kind of thing and could suggest what type of kit (possibly with examples) that they should be looking at? [/quote] This made me think that it was one stage being used by a few bands.......hence the opinion that each band setting up their own PA between sets would take too long. If as Dad says they are all setting up in different areas and playing at different times then fine ,I can see how that would work. All along people have been saying that more information is required!

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