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[quote name='Namisuke' timestamp='1321571656' post='1440923'] Bremen, do you know this? [url="http://rectifymaster.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7&Itemid=29"]http://rectifymaster...&id=7&Itemid=29[/url] It was the absolutely first to be launched on the market and it is patent pending... [/quote] Stay away. The inventor knows bugger all about fret dressing. Getting the neck straight, dressing fingerboard/frets flat and reintroducing relief to taste will still get better results than filing bow into a warped neck.

thanks Silentbob, this issue is puzzling.

Ped's getting stressed out by this so I'm going to step in and give him a break. There's a bug in the upgrade that relates directly to email notifications that we weren't aware of when we decided to go with it. The bug appears to be still present after we've applied the fix. So far Invision haven't been much help on the forums when approached for a solution. Much of this is just out of our hands. I've asked Ben to respond directly so you at least get some accurate information as soon as we do.

The email issue is Google seeing a Googlemail return address on basschat notifications that aren't sent from a Googlemail account. Its not a big deal.

[quote name='JakeBrownBass' timestamp='1315872019' post='1371316'] Because you obviously haven't played the pedulla [/quote] Amen!

[quote name='JakeBrownBass' timestamp='1315867164' post='1371264'] My bass tutor uses a fretless 5 string Pedulla Pentabuzz and it is easily one of the best basses i've played. IMO one of the best fretless basses ever produced. [/quote] Wal fretlesses are very fine instruments, especially if you have one that is a little brighter sounding. For a standard fretless tone - soft highs, lots of deep mids Wals will do it easily and with bags of sustain. They're very organic sounding basses. Pentabuzzes are also fine instruments, however I suggest replacing the bartolinis with something more neutral, avoid the Pentabuzzes with soapbars as the sensing field of the magnets is weaker on the G and B strings at the end of the pickups. You may also like to consider a preamp that allows you to dial in and boost the mids for extra control. An East Pro preamp with mid sweep would be ideal. I guess the clincher is, you could get a Pentabuzz to sound like a standard fretless but you'd never be able to get a Wal to sound as bright and singing as a Pentabuzz with the mods I've mentioned above. The other thing I'll mention as an owner of a Pentabuzz is that I managed to get a gentle feedback effect onstage with one of my GK RB700 tiltback combos. It was like having a sustainer and was one of the most intensely satisfying live playing experiences I've ever had. There was warmth, loads of growl and soaring highs. The mwah was very slow and the notes literally felt like they were blossoming under my fingers. Utterly intoxicating...especially with stereo chorus and a touch of delay.

I suggest there may be some value in bringing Ben in respond to these issues directly. Ped's essentially been acting the client on this upgrade rather than the technician and we all thought this would be a lot more straight forward than it has been. So we're all in the same boat to some degree although at the moment Ped's getting it in the neck as if he has more technical knowledge than he has. We're all interested in a smoother running forum and its frustrating that these matters haven't been resolved yet. More specifically Chris, its difficult for anyone to be 100% about what the causes of your problems are given the issues are so inconsistent between members. It may be worth Ben speaking with you directly and clarifying exactly what your set up is and how it might interact with the forum.

The coating can always be sanded off so its not like the mod is irreversible.

[quote name='henry norton' timestamp='1321369540' post='1438295'] I'm interested in where you've experienced these issues with thick epoxy coats. I provide an epoxy coating service and have never had any problems with cracking - are you sure it wasn't a Fender style polyester coating you've seen with cracks?[/quote] I'm not sure what a "Fender style" coating is but could well have been poly rather than epoxy. I know poly is favoured by Thor and Pedulla and there have been posts on Talkbass about issues with neck flexibility on poly coated necks. Which is why some manufacturers won't offer it on their fretless necks. I'm no expert but I have a hunch that epoxy may be softer than poly...? [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1321379350' post='1438503'] This is an issue. My Zoot fretless had a cracked finish along the side of the neck. It was a graphite neck with an ebony fingerboard, and over the past 13 years the ebony has obviously expanded or shrunk slightly, causing the finish on the side of the neck to crack. It was imperceptible to the fingers when you were playing, though it looked a little bit tatty. Not a huge problem to fix (which I looked into) but I thought it would only happen again. So yes, this sort of thing has to be looked at carefully. I can recall playing a couple of fretless jazz basses with epoxied boards that were badly chipped and cracked.[/quote] Some superglue in the gaps would probably sort that out I'd imagine. Then buff residue flat.

Can be risky. Traditoinally thick coats are needed for durability and the thicker the coat the more brittle the coating gets. So if put on a neck that flexes a lot, there's a risk of cracking. Can't comment specifically on Wal necks and I'm aware that HG Thor has treated one piece maple necks without issues. Maybe the epoxy is a little thinner or a little more flexible these days...?

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1321263365' post='1436960'] Agreed. I thought BC was supposed to be a discussion forum not some sort of multiple-choice survey.[/quote] Replies typically follow the following response anyway: a ) agree b ) disagree (based on a set of assumptions that are either valid or invalid) c ) need more context d ) don't give a sh*t

This is forum for bass players. If the function isn't accompanied by blue flashing LEDs then it isn't working. Get it working please.

Pinned but if we had the wiki, it would be easier...

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1321235155' post='1436879'] Right, that was long enough. You can turn it off now, thank you. [/quote] Develop a skin, become a hard bastard. Make BBC proud. Make us proud. Fight for your people...yada yada

question asked...no looking up my feedback now. I wouldn't want you to find any penis enlargers.

CNC milling doesn't necessarily result in time saving if you factor in the time it takes to set the CNC up. What it IS good for though is long runs of the same component. This process also requires a high degree of precision for things like neck pockets. While its possible to do everything in CAD or a 3D program like 3D Studio, materials tolerances can be particularly difficult to judge unless someone experienced is doing the set up or final fit is carried out by hand. I've been looking into it for a little research project I'm working on at the moment. I may well end up doing a master by hand and then getting it 3D laser scanned as there will be some tricky radiussing involved which I can't do on the computer. It will let me test tolerances for fit. Gibson do all of their bodies on CNC mills, they 3d laser scanned a les paul, cleaned up the point data a little and now just shove the blanks in one end and take out the bodies from the other. I think Warwick do as well. The bloke who makes Martin Taylors jazz archtops uses CNC milling to do the arched tops and gets fantastic results. A CNC mill can set you back between 3000 quid for a 3 axis benchtop imported from the US, to well over 75,000 quid for a fully enclosed 5 axis job. There are ways for someone to built their own 3 axis mill out of MDF as well...

Lets not forget his purchase of E-books on penis enlarging.

Thin end of the wedge. I've gone off instruments, onto home studio and now onto workshop...the GAS doesn't stop for me, it just changes.

Yes but turned it down. I thought their expectations of commitment were a little unreasonable and I'd need to carry the band with keyboard programming if we wanted to shift onto a funkier set list.