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[IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/crazykiwibass/Basses/Celinder%20Update%20P/DSCF1170.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/crazykiwibass/Basses/Celinder%20Update%20P/DSC01839.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/crazykiwibass/Basses/Celinder%20Update%20P/DSCF1172.jpg[/IMG] My Celinder P Classic with a jazz neck and currently strung with flats. Took it to an audition a few weeks back and it nailed most of the old covers. Still had to use a 5 string for stuff beyond 1985 though. If I ever sell it, I won't be replacing it with anything similar. Amazing vintage tone for something so new.

Bloody hell, I saw it and dissed it because it wasn't my thing. Those instruments are real works of craftsmanship and that's a fantastic score Foxen - good for you.

Play it first. The softness of the body wood tends to have a big influence over how warm the bass sounds in my experience (having owned two Quantums in my time). The risk is that you may find the bass to be more sterile sounding than either your warwicks or fenders. Check whether its got Bartolini pickups or EMGs, the Bartolinis can sound warmer on a brittle sounding instrument, also SWR amps make a brittle sounding bass much much warmer and ear friendly. My fretless Quantum had a neck issue because the fingerboard wasn't stiff enough (according to Rob Green). It wasn't an early one, it was from about 1995.

I hear they're gonna release a limited edition stringray in nickel plated finish.

[quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1320943685' post='1433569'] It looks like bass serial number 05 was made in '82, whether the first four were '81 or '82 I don't know. [/quote] thanks, was interested to know how long it was after they were designed that he started marketing them.

Cheers, do you know when they were first manufactured?

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1320859213' post='1432429'] Fair enough point... but an odd truss rod tweak doesn't scare me - although I understand others are reluctant to touch it. The point I was trying to emphasise is that a graphite neck is not essential to get low action. [/quote] It's possible to take that one step further. A little flexibility or softness helps with getting that mid-peak growl but there's a compromise in terms of action. Normally a super thick and stiff fingerboard is the best solution but if it doesn't compliment the neck woods, the fingerboard can add a little brittleness. The other thing I'll add is that I've found Steinberger necks to be the warmest sounding composite necks by far. If I could figure out a way to manipulate body wood sufficient to get that mid peak growl consistently I'd be away laughing. Would love to see if Moses would custom build a headed steinberger neck (which is built to be stiffer than their standard jazz necks) but make it in one of their their stingray neck moulds.

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1320687904' post='1430059'] Close call - Cutlass birthdate is 1982 (with Modulus manufactured neck) with Status being 81 - the Status folks may be clearer around the dates. Is 1981 the birth of GMT or was Rob going before this? Geoff Gould (founder of modulus) apparently presented first graphite necked bass in 1977... so it looks like MM and Status were lagging by a few years. [/quote] First graphite necked bass was an Alembic made in 1976. It was sold to John McVie in 1977. Bassstar necks were available from late 70's to early 80's as after market add ons and full instruments - Fender copies with alembic electronics and modulus necks. Cutlasses allegedly date back to 1980 also but I've yet to see any dates on necks that go back before 1983. I did own an Artist Cutlass c/- Cliff Williams that was basically a cutlass neck mated to a preEB body. Neck date was 1984, body date was 1979. Alembic continued producing graphite necked basses until around 1985 although very, very low numbers from 1984 onwards due to issues with Geoff Gould and quality control that impacted on both Alembic and Musicman's decision over whether to continue offering graphite necks. Steinbergers were being marketed from [url="http://www.steinbergerworld.com/fliers/80flier.jpg"]1980[/url] onwards. The idea for resin injected, composite necks was being developed by Ned while he was working for Stuart Spector in the late 70's. Youtube vids here: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/46175-steinberger-doco-from-1983/page__p__459920__hl__steinberger%20ned__fromsearch__1#entry45992"]http://basschat.co.u...h__1#entry45992[/url] Have no idea about Status, a 1981 date would be a bit of a revelation. Mark King played them from 1983 onwards I believe.

I saw it too which was very saddening. I don't know how many of you are FBriends with him but the one thing that really struck me was how open he has been. Its just great that he's so approachable and generous. He's one of the 70's greats, popularising double stops as well as playing on Donald Fagen's Nightfly and Steely Dan's Aja. I really hope he recovers with all faculties fully intact.

HI, your profile here isn't affected by your PC crash. PM me your old username and I can do a password change, and (thanks to the site update) a merge.

Because I like to choose which kidney sounds better?

They're my precioussssssss!!!! Seriously though...I'm just interested in learning more about what works for me in terms of sound and design. Haven't quite got there yet in terms of combining both although I'm extremely close. I think the next step will be to build my own...watch this space sometime over the next 12 months.

Definitely odd Jimster. I would generally bring my own regardless though...especially if you have a U5, its not likely a studio could better that to be honest.

Haven't gigged for 2 years. Wasn't living somewhere there were any bass players needed. Where I am now is a different story but I have just bought a house so need weekends free to knock the place into shape.

I'm getting on average 3-4 emails every day in the admin inbox from people who are replying to notifications that they've received a PM instead of replying to the original message. At the moment all replies receive a automatic response but in 2 weeks I'll set the admin account to automatically respond and delete these emails as they're clogging up the inbox. They will become a nightmare to weed out every week if it continues. Unfortunately we don't have the same email system as Ebay or Facebook and messages won't be received by their intended recipient.

In a word, no. The mic placement has a significant influence on the tone that is recorded.

Good man, enjoy.

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