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[quote name='Clarky' timestamp='1316677825' post='1381176'] The control pklate says European burl maple [/quote] European maple is another name for sycamore

Server's back up Cheers for that Clarky Is that maple or sycamore? I know Wal used sycamore a fair bit because it was easily available. It typically is a lot paler than maple.

Can't see any images atm, I'm hoping the server is down...

I'd suggest its all circulating around forming values for the band. It might well be that the idea is a solution to a percieved problem. If you, as a band member and presumably someone with an equal say in things, think that its a bit of overkill then I suggest have an honest, calm discussion with your band mates. Use phrases that start with 'I feel...' and then articulate what is on your mind. Your bandmates can't deny the validity of your feelings, only how the way you perceive things compares to how they perceive things. Its all about perceptions. Ask them whether they see a problem in the band, Try and clarify whether their solution is to a problem that they see is happening or whether its a solution to a problem that hasn't happened yet. Is one individual trying to impose their values on the band without giving enough respect to the values of the other members? Can you accept those values? You might find there's some room to negotiate. If anyone decides they're not going to negotiate then it makes your choices a little clearer.

Its actually a conspiracy. Shhhh.

Most of my time on bass these days has been spent investigating other bass synth options, putting together non MIDI patches that I hear on modern and classic dance songs. In any case here are some tips and quite possibly the longest post I'll make this year : I avoid any synth pedals that just add a waveform tone to the original pitched sound. The Boss SYB is one example. I think the EHX Microsynth does a similar thing. Nothing wrong with that if it makes someone happy but they're not really synthesisers in my opinion, they're waveform generators. The waveforms don't track the pitch of the note you're playing so you'll just get the same monotone regardless of whatever note you are playing. Some bass synth pedals that DO track pitch include: Mark Bass Super Synth Programmable, USB interface, relatively cheap, tracks pitch but only generates a sawtooth waveform Korg Toneworks G5 Discontinued, programmable, only generates fast and slow sawtooth waveforms plus a square subharmonic. So farly limited in potential. Akai SB-1 Deep Impact Discontinued, programmable, eye wateringly expensive in whatever condition, impossible to get spare parts for if it breaks, no info on waveforms but the 9 presets are very 80's in flavour so could probably cover most songs in some manner. You'll need chorus, phaser and pitch shift to emulate some 80's tracks with all of the units described above. Alternatively there are also the following; Roland V-99 V-bass Features include a choice of pitch tracked square or sawtooth waveforms plus an exhaustive range of multi effects and modelling options, plus MIDI output if you need to trigger real bass synths. Its an absolute beast and has a great user interface which includes USB connection and computer editing software. However its not cheap (used prices are about the same as a used Deep Impact), you'll need to install a GK3B pickup on your bass next to the bridge AND programme the pickup location and other aspects of your instrument into the V-bass so it can both model and track properly. You will also need a dedicated MIDI foot controller if you want to change patches or patch parameters mid-song. Chunk Systems Octavius Squeezer Absolute swiss army knife (four waveforms, envelope filter, fuzz and multi effects), fully programmable, pricey if you are outside Australia (still less than a secondhand Deep Impact however) but...only two buttons to do the programming!! So it's not the sort of pedal that you can make stuff up on the fly with. You'll also need a lot of patience and good visualisation skills to navigate that menu with only two buttons. (If ever there was a pedal crying out for a USB interface this would be it). My pick would be the V-bass if I didn't need anything other than square or sawtooth waveforms and I anticipated needing a bass synth capability for a while. However I'm still annoyed by the fact its no longer a floor unit. Not only is the emphasis on using the hands rather than feet inconvenient, I'd also need to take a stand to a gig to avoid bending down between songs or pay extra for a MIDI foot controller. You mentioned Human League in your post, I've managed to get both the introduction sawtooth patch and the verse/chorus bass line for Don't You Want Me Baby with the Deep Impact. Not sure what the latter waveform is though, I've just thought of it as 'rubber bandy', it could be a sawtooth with the dynamics dialled right down. A similar rubber bandy patch is used in Madonna's 'Holiday' too. If I needed more than square or sawtooth then the Octavius Squeezer would come in second but I'd still be reluctant to buy one if there was a remote chance they'd release a Mark II version with a USB interface. If it did have the USB interface then I'd place it ahead of the V-bass because the modelling options aren't really going to come in useful on the V-bass. I've also recently discovered this piece of kit which might make arpeggiating a breeze. Eventide Pitchfactor It's pricey at US$500 but a marvellous box of cutting edge pitch effect tricks from what I've seen so far. I'd like to get one and run it next to the Deep Impact to get some trancey stuff going on. If none of that suits, the alternative is to go down the pitch-to-MIDI route which I've also done but that's another thread entirely.

Poor spidey, looks like he's been outted. I think hypnogoat has had his day so will be looking for another avatar anyway. Peds right about the server capacity. At times like this we either weed out content or expand the storage and bandwidths. The user generated content is what gives the site its search engine ranking on specific keywords so if we started mucking about with it, we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot.

J, it can do a passable P sound.

[quote name='Mark Latimour' timestamp='1314864052' post='1358432'] I have a pitchfactor. Its an amazing pedal! [/quote] What do you use it for, generally? Where did you get yours from?

I don't understand what the fuss is all about. I remember him using them in the mid 80s.

[quote name='Linus27' post='1267503' date='Jun 13 2011, 04:32 PM']Thanks guys, interesting, I wonder why Warwick are going down this route. I can't see the logic in it as they are pushing themselves out of the market.[/quote] Judging by the other comments on here, the cause is fairly clear to me; arrogance and being totally out out of touch with not only their market but also their dealership network both of whom are providing them with constructive feedback. The company values what it makes more than the relationships it has with the people they rely on for support. They've always tended to be arrogant in my experience, I had dreadful experiences back in 1997.

Aaaaah, they're so awesome. The only rock band I'm a real fan of.

Awwww, I'm gutted that I've missed both tours in the UK.

I've tended to view Julian Crampton and Gene Perez as equivalents. Gene seems a little more formulaic to me but his grooves are classics and instantly recognisable. I've used a few of his licks in cover songs, like American Boy by Estelle. Shame there isn't more footage of him on Youtube. This is my fave vid out of those you posted, love how he interacts with the keyboardist. Not sure thats a graphite neck though check around 1:25-1:28.

For a great P bass sound, an 80's graphite necked Steinberger might do the trick. The XL's are great and have a neck pickup tone to die for.

I always thought teak would be an oily and heavy wood to use in luthery but this article has made me think again. I have potential access to a lot of Burmese teak and amboyna burl if I can make it to the sawmills in Myanmar next time I'm over there...

Obligatory photo on the bed... [attachment=88421:DSC05469.JPG] This bass requires some getting used to, form follows function in a very single minded kind of way. But the narrow string spacing not so difficult to get around, the strap saddle does feel comfortable eventually and I've managed to adjust to the lack of body. Fabulous neck pickup sound - deep, smooth and warm, so much like a p-bass through valves. Love the hazlabs eq. as well, it fattens up the bass in exactly the right way. Now I know why reggae bassists liked Steinbergers so much. It's probably the coolest looking bass I own.

[url="http://www.fractalaudio.com/p-axe-fx-ii-preamp-fx-processor.php"]http://www.fractalaudio.com/p-axe-fx-ii-pr...x-processor.php[/url] Just discovered this little number which already has an arpeggiator setting plus all the features of my MPXG2 and more processing power. But at US$2600-3000 plus whatever I lose on selling the MPXG2 units, I don't think I'll be buying one soon.

[url="http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/PitchFactor.aspx"]http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Prod...itchFactor.aspx[/url] I'm a rack effects guy, I prefer having a patch per song that is available with one button press rather than tap dancing over a pedal board between songs and mucking the settings up if I miss. But the harpeggiator patch has me seriously interested. So while I'm thinking these features will eventually make it onto rack effects, or I might figure a way of achieving the harpeggiator patch with delays and feedback in my MPXG2, I'm still seriously tempted to be lazy or impatient. Hooking one up to my Deep Impact could sound incredible... ...anyone tried it yet?

And Lee learned that whole performance in a week.

Pretty much what I have. But would like a pair of active, stackable lightweight wedges. The EBS cabs would then just be used for the V8.

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