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Hang on chaps, just to be clear... ...I'm talking about restricting access to the Ebay links forum ONLY to those who have more than 50 posts. Not the rest of the site. I take the points on about discouraging new members but they won't be stopped from participating in the rest of the site, it will just restrict those whose sole intention in joining is to promote their auction.

[quote name='Tech' post='1086340' date='Jan 12 2011, 05:00 AM']I think the common factor for art is expression.[/quote] I'd go with that.

Ah, I see Essentialtension has already started the ball rolling. I always thought the institutional theory was most interesting...by Danto, I believe. John Stuart Mill's theory was called Utilitarianism. [url="http://www.utilitarianism.com/mill1.htm"]http://www.utilitarianism.com/mill1.htm[/url]

[quote name='essexbasscat' post='1086302' date='Jan 12 2011, 01:39 AM']Could you possibly shed any light on similarities of the creative processes of painting, sculpting, music etc ? Could we discuss the creative process in general ? Or possibly recommend any resources for further exploration ?[/quote] Sure but I have to finish my lunchbreak and get back to work right now, I'll put something together this evening (while you're still waking up).

[quote name='essexbasscat' post='1086285' date='Jan 12 2011, 01:17 AM']There must be a book on this topic out there somewhere ......[/quote] On Art Theory? Thousands, literally. Almost every well known philosopher had views on what art is including Plato, Socrates, Tolstoy, Bell, Hume, Stuart-Mill, yada yada. All I know is...discussions about what art is and discussions about what GOOD art is, should be kept separate. Art is just an experience created by someone for appreciation at a later point in time. An unmade bed can be a piece of art, as can a pickled shark. What is good art, is where it REALLY gets subjective.

[quote name='noelk27' post='1086167' date='Jan 11 2011, 11:16 PM']Depends how you define "Art". If you use the "provokes an emotional response" yardstick, then sure. But a dentists also provokes an emotional response when pulling a tooth. Personally, don't doubt that creating music is artistic, or that making music involves artistry, but to my mind it's not per se art.[/quote] I could go on at length about what art is, drawing on university lectures in Art Theory. However I can't be arsed, its not that important. Its all subjective and you can each make your own minds up about what art is. For me, music shares many aspects with visual art, but its a relatively constrained, linear experience. You can't choose which bits to listen to without affecting the quality of the experience...of course, having said that its perfectly possible for someone to create a musical experience which allowed you to choose how to listen...just like you choose which parts of a visual piece of art to look at in more detail...

Owing to the number of people just joining the forum and posting their ebay auctions in the Ebay links section, we're thinking about installing a 50 post minimum there. The original intention behind the creation of this forum was that it was a place to discuss Ebay auctions, not to offer free advertising to Ebayers. We'll do it in a couple of days but before we go ahead, is anyone going to be adversely affected by this measure?

You don't even need to refinish it, just rub the neck down with 1200 grade wet and dry. I've done it on my sunburst spector and it works well. Its always possible to spray clear coat gloss back over it if you want to sell.

[quote name='Circle_of_Fifths' post='1081460' date='Jan 7 2011, 08:46 PM']I sense just the tiniest bit of negativity in that statement.[/quote] Cynicism, Sir! [quote name='Circle_of_Fifths' post='1081460' date='Jan 7 2011, 08:46 PM']A neck's a neck at 9.5 or 7.5 or any different rather - and it's all for the masses anyway. Not every bassist can afford nor might even might want a boutique bass and this marketing skill satisfies several levels of desires, wants and needs.[/quote] When there are master built Fender Jazzes available for the same price as a boutique bass, all segments of the market have been covered. Best way to smother any competition. Warwick did the same thing. [quote name='Circle_of_Fifths' post='1081460' date='Jan 7 2011, 08:46 PM']If not for the consumers, then for the factories that need to keep their talent employed and the building that need to be occupied during these days of rather Apocalyptic slides into broke-ness and destitution-ness.[/quote] All those talented CNC machines?! [quote name='Circle_of_Fifths' post='1081460' date='Jan 7 2011, 08:46 PM']I say 'good on 'em' for the sheer variety and marketing elan.[/quote] Fair enough. But that marketing elan includes a pricing structure based on ever diminishing returns. The more a customer pays, the less the customer gets for each extra quid spent. Also known as up-selling. Some credit could be given based on their ability to maintain interest in the product despite the product not changing significantly. Hence the largely superficial changes and lack of innovation. Innovation is not what the Fender market wants though, is it? [quote name='Circle_of_Fifths' post='1081460' date='Jan 7 2011, 08:46 PM']You can be banned from Squier-Land by The Lord Of Squiers if you nay-say. You're already in Upsidedown Land! You [u]can[/u] be further banished to (shudder!) Australia![/quote] Brr, give me a remote island in the sub antarctic instead.

[quote name='SisterAbdullahX' post='1082124' date='Jan 8 2011, 03:24 PM']Broadmindedness not known here......[/quote] Steady on chum. I don't have anything to prove either.

[quote name='bubinga5' post='1081476' date='Jan 7 2011, 09:01 PM']Well, she is a solo artist... isnt that the point... Would you say that of Victor Wooten?[/quote] Yes I would. I don't think bass works as a solo instrument, it has other strengths. If a recipe was prepared in the same way, it would be like a pizza with a gnocci, pasta, tofu and potato topping.

[quote name='witterth' post='1081711' date='Jan 8 2011, 01:43 AM']a JD does (nearly) what an Alembic does[/quote] I'll have to disagree. I've owned both and they share very little in common apart from a basic similarity in the body shape.

Still no lightweight kickback? Ufff.

I'm amazed alright. Amazed at the different ways they can repackage the same basic specification.

She's a bit like Meshell Ndegeocello so when her playing sits back in the mix its nice. But it comes across as a little egotistical when the whole band is used as a vehicle for the bass, which is whats going on in the intro in the first link.

[quote name='dan670844' post='1080597' date='Jan 6 2011, 11:43 PM']Yep Leo Fender was a genius he did the SE-5 tone stack and deluxe when in the 50's?[/quote] Leo Fender didn't design amps

I think different players look for different things in a valve head. I would be looking for something very clean and sweet sounding but loud. Mating an Avalon VT-737 mic preamp to a LED biasing valve power stage which can deliver into 2-8ohm loads and adding a 4 band para eq, for example. No point in asking for something lightweight, I don't believe the technology can accommodate that to a significant degree without making a lot of compromises in terms of build quality or sending the price sky rocketing.

[quote name='paul h' post='1079229' date='Jan 5 2011, 10:55 PM']TIM does the same. But that is a rather more complicated story.[/quote] and part of Basschat folklore.

My wireless transmitter packed up on me mid gig. That's how I learned that rechargable batteries are not a good idea in wireless transmitters because when they go, they go very suddenly. Turned up to a gig in anticipation of trying my Shuttle amp (after it was delivered to the drummers place while I was away) only to find that the speakon cable hadn't been included with the package. Had to play the entire gig through a 30w Roland keyboard combo. Turned up to a gig once and discovered I was missing the preEB stingray. Turned out it had been left on the pavement outside my house by my gf. I had assumed she'd put it in the car with the rest of the gear. Luckily a kind neighbour nabbed two gyppos walking off with it, thinking it was put out for the rubbish. We started half an hour late and I was soaked with sweat but I still had the stingray.

[quote name='MattCvijan' post='1075261' date='Jan 2 2011, 02:18 PM']Thank you for this post. In my dissertation im looking at the link between musical identity and racial/cultural identity, using Neo Soul as a case study. Neo Soul music appeals to people from all walks of life, racial groups, and cultures, yet it seems that the leading artists in this genre are almost exclusively African Americans... art, you wont fit in to the market?[/quote] Not at all. The point of my original post was that I think you're focusing on the racial dimension at the expense of a deeper understanding about the genre.

[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/sandberg_basic_ken_taylor_5_imbuia_nt.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/sandberg_basic_ke...5_imbuia_nt.htm[/url] They're definitely not 1500 quid new from Thomann.

I used to be in a neo soul band, we did Annie Lennox, Alicia Keys, Angie Stone and a host of other pop choonz. I don't agree at all that the genre is black-american. Using race or culture to identify this very contemporary genre complete disregards one of its great strengths - cross cultural appeal. Last Meshell Ndegeocello gig I went to was distinctive precisely because the audience was so varied and diverse from middle aged, middle class jazz fans to white student lesbians to black urban professionals. I think the boundaries are blurred but the one thing that tends to define its appeal is the sensitivity and intelligence in both the song writing and the delivery. So I'd suggest the music tends to appeal across social divides to individuals who value those qualities.