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Can we please get back on topic? Wedges?

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there's lovely! I think mine might look fairly similar in terms of finish.

[quote name='Buzz' post='290304' date='Sep 23 2008, 08:30 PM']Would not a BFM designed cab fit the bill? I think he's designed a couple of wedges.[/quote] I'm certainly open to that possibility if there's something that fits the bill.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='290200' date='Sep 23 2008, 06:19 PM']That's a clear sign of a cab with insufficient bracing. I'm finding interesting to note that I'm doing about everything possible to make a cab as light as possible, and it's quite complicated, yet there are a few other makers producing equally light cabs without all the clever stuff to stop the cab resonating. A well-braced cab should stand up perfectly well with 3 points of contact.[/quote] With all due respect even a well braced lightweight cab will vibrate because of cone movement. The bracing just means the whole box will vibrate instead of the walls, and thats whats happening with the EBS cab when its tipped on its back edge. Anyways, I had another look on t'interweb and hmmmmm... [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/gallien_krueger_neo210.htm?partner_id=87171"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/gallien_krueger_n...artner_id=87171[/url]

[quote name='alexclaber' post='290152' date='Sep 23 2008, 05:42 PM']If you need the cab tilted back at 45 degrees or more then you could achieve that with a threaded rod with rubber foot that screws into a socket in the back of the cab.[/quote] I think it would need supports on both sides or a frame. Once a lightweight cab starts vibrating with mids and lows its very easy for it to tilt either way. I've had a cab fall completely on its back even though its been propped up against a wall because its been shaking so much while tilted on its back edge that its started walking. I've had a look at amp stands but I'd rather not take yet another piece of kit with me to a gig. With the bass(es), speaker, kit bag and stage clobber, it's quite enough for one trip. [quote name='alexclaber' post='290152' date='Sep 23 2008, 05:42 PM']I thought I mustn't have explained that clearly enough. If your mids are coming from a 12" woofer than you probably need to be within about 10 degrees of on-axis to get all of them. If your mids are coming from a 6.5" woofer then you could be 30 deg off and still hear them well. The dispersion is inversely proportional to the size of the source.[/quote] That ties in much more closely to my on stage experience. My mids are currently coming from a 12" cone. BTW, my GK wedge combo put out superb lows. So FWIW I have been satisfied with a wedge cab already.

[quote name='Ba55me15ter' post='290124' date='Sep 23 2008, 05:10 PM']The loss in bottom-end doesn't really bother me as I know my full range sound is going out front. I find the positioning of a close wedge cab pointing directly at me head more than makes up for any loss in bottom-end response. While it's nice to have the low freq vibes coming through your feet, I find mids/low mids much more useful for pitching in a noisy gig environment, plus the positioning lets a lot more top-end actually reach your ears, as opposed to your arse. The JBL is a one-handed carry, so with the Mark Bass SA450 over the shoulder and bass in t'other hand, I'm a one trip man![/quote] Thats a pretty good description of my position too, often any lows I'm generating on stage compete with the subs from the FOH anyway and it all gets a bit much. On a larger stage I'm sure it might become an issue but for the small places we usually play, its more the focussed lower mids and highs I need. Thats why I mentioned the Trace cabs but in my experience they've been quite muddy and the tweeter can be quite harsh.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='289989' date='Sep 23 2008, 02:22 PM']As I've said before, the problem with wedge cabs for bass is that the internal volume is much less which leads to much less bass response. Some kind of fold out or removable tilting mechanism would be a better bet IMO. Alex[/quote] Indeed you have Alex But a tilting mechanism wouldn't allow a cab to tilt back far enough. I know you've mentioned a cone of 30 degrees radiating out from the speaker but in practice, on stage, I definitely [i]need[/i] to have a cone more or less pointing at my ears to hear it properly.

[quote name='Ba55me15ter' post='289821' date='Sep 23 2008, 11:58 AM']I'm after exactly the same thing - a compact, lightweight wedge. Using a JBL Eon PA cab at the mo, which does a surprisingly good job.[/quote] I found the website of someone else on t'internet last night who was using a pair of those monitors as well. FWIW I'm quite happy with the GB Shuttle I have (and happy in fact everytime I pick it up and chuck it into the pocket of my gig bag ) so probably just the cabs would do. I remember Trace Elliot used to do wedge cabs as well but I was never that keen on the low end response of Trace 10" cabs with 5 or 6 string basses.

Its with great sadness that I have to announce LeftySteve passed away 2 weeks ago. A message from his wife, Polly, is below: [i]"He passed away unexpectedly but peacefully on 6th September. He will be hugely missed by all his friends and family, especially his band. He was a truly wonderful man."[/i] Polly is picking up Steve's emails and PM's through this forum so feel free to send something privately if you wish.

[quote name='Bigwan' post='289666' date='Sep 23 2008, 08:44 AM']A few questions Steve. What string spacing will these have at the bridge on the 5 string? Any rough pricing yet?[/quote] The string spacing will be approximately the same as a Stingray 4/5. This is because we had to assume a spacing for the pickup pole pieces and, given we opted for chunky MM style humbuckers, it was just most convenient option for the time being.

how long have you owned a stingray for Kev?

[quote name='Prosebass' post='289481' date='Sep 22 2008, 09:04 PM']Thanks to all who took part, keep posting, no more prizes though....sorry [/quote] Well, I'm leaving this forum in protest then!

[quote name='david_l_perry' post='289499' date='Sep 22 2008, 09:41 PM']Going to look a lot like a Q4/Q5 with that body shape.... [/quote] Yeah there are be some similarities for sure, I did actually worry a bit about the similarities and ended up doing another shape but that ended up looking like a Carl Thompson. There seem to be a whole load of body shapes that are along the similar lines. So I'm more or less resigned to the fact that an ergonomic shape is almost certain to evoke other designs in one way or another.

[quote name='peted' post='279705' date='Sep 8 2008, 02:01 PM']My Omni 10 has a Speakon socket, and I have a Speakon<->Jack lead. I don't mind bringing my Omni 10 and leaving my Hartke 3500 at home if there's no interest in the head, but the cab won't make any noise to show off on its own?[/quote] Well I'll be bringing two heads, the Trace V8 + EBS 212 and the GB so it kind of works out!

I'm not so sure about them to be honest, the reviews say the bass response is a little lacking.

I'm sure the demand will be overwhelming Well, here we go. [attachment=13796:supergroove.jpg] This is the body shape I've been working with, I know it looks a bit flat but it will hopefully be radiussed in a Spector/Warwick stylee. The idea being that it at least looks inviting to pick up and play. I used Jons headless 6 shape and modified it for radiussing and balance. The pickup routs are based on measurements taken from my Celinder P-bass and from my Musicman Stingray. I know they look like $$ but thats just how its going to end up if I want convincing P and MM sounds.

[quote name='josh3184' post='289354' date='Sep 22 2008, 05:50 PM']MAKE A LEFTY! that is all...[/quote] I'm left handed but I can play right handed. Seriously though, I'd never dismiss that for the future but if I was to offer a left handed option with a radiussed body on 10 instruments, it would double the fabrication costs. The reality is that I'll probably be lucky to sell 10 instruments a year so mass production isn't likely to be feasible. If I could sell 10 left handed instruments, that would put a completely different spin on things though.

Why not make it a fund raiser for a charity of your choice Nick, in your wifes name? Is it possible to get a few basschat bands there perhaps?

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='289218' date='Sep 22 2008, 03:11 PM']Hmm, there you go... I never knew Mr Shuker used a CNC - I thought his basses were all hand routed...? Can anybody confirm? Does Jon have them CNCed and then hand finished?[/quote] All of Jon's basses are made by hand. Trust me, in my dealings with him, he's almost obsessed by quality often at the expense of meeting deadlines as many of us will already know. The CNC machine was donated to him by a client for non bass-related projects that Jon churns out quickly just to keep the coffers topped up between instrument commissions.