many thanks for the replys, i wasnt aweare of RMC, it loooks cool im going to ask anthony at xylem if he has used either of the systems before i think.
also i didnt realise you could have midi options too, oh the possibilities!
although i dont know if i would use use midi live, im a bit of and old school rock/metal type, with simple needs.
choices choices, iv got some thinkin to do.
thanks again!