Wolverinebass

This is why I hate live sound guys. That would be a provocation I wouldn't be taking at all. I mean, what is it with them? What part of it do they not realise that people want different things? Obviously, I'm not playing an Alembic because I want to sound like a reggae bass player you melt. Oh, you're just cutting off everything above 800Hz when I specifically told you not to? Thanks for that. In more than 20 years of playing in London I've only had maybe 10 decent live engineers. All the rest have been megabells who have ruined my sound by tearing out all the top end and mids. The pinnacle of this idiocy was playing my 12 string Hamer through a Tech 21 Dug pedal which as some of you might know has a balanced xlr output with a cab sim. I was told "pre eq DI only." I refused point blank to do that explaining why. The bloke refused to take the feed from the pedal and took the DI output of the amp I had plugged into. He then tore all the top end off in the PA. I had to be restrained by my bandmates after that gig.

I'm sure we have enough knowledge that should named guests be too busy elsewhere we could rustle up a few interesting bits? After all, how many people on the forum have loads of niche knowledge? For example, a few years ago @TrevorR did a talk on Wal basses. Aside from Paul Herman is there anyone who knows more about them than him? @cetera could do something on Spectors. After all, he owns most of them in circulation anyway. @stevie could show off the design of his Lfsys cabs. @prowla and Rickenbackers. Again, does anyone know more about them? Just examples really off the top of my head really. If you were wanting stand up comedy, I could do something on how I felt cheated in 2002 that I didn't get the bass slot in The Who.

I'm generally fine whenever. Looking forward to it!

@Kiwi, I didn't really have a brand in mind. You've covered the main ones. My view was totally bespoke neck to my own specs. I'd imagine that the Fender and MM necks will be the main thing for most people ordering. I remember playing your graphite necked series 1 Alembic when you gave me a lift to one of the bass Bashes and really liked it. Maybe we're past replacement necks here, but how about full basses a la Stienberger? Status Stealth or Buzzard? Full on one piece instruments? I've probably pushed the boat out too far there.

I think that most people will go for the Fender replacement, even though, Klos do a decent one. I have one. If I could get a neck made to the exact spec I wanted that would be it. The main sticking point is that everyone tends to do less than 42mm nut width. Modulus wouldn't even entertain doing anything other than 40mm. Neither does Geoff Gould or Bogart. To me, it's full custom the whole way.

They've stopped trading. The website and Facebook pages are down and Marc has went off Facebook too. I was in the market for another cab and Bass Direct told me the cabs weren't being made anymore.

#1 - Paul @NancyJohnson #2 - Paul #2 @prowla #3 - Martin @Merton #4 - @Wombat #5 - Andy @Wolverinebass

Interested of course!

I disagree. This is what has been missing from Bass Bashes. A really good cage match. Maybe we can skip the cab shootout to move on to a duel at 10 paces? This could be a major selling point. Someone turns up with a Musicman Sabre not realising that they should have brought an actual sabre for the afternoon events. Someone asks "is it good for metal?" and is immediately required to fight Rhonda Rousey whilst playing Mr Pink by Level 42. This is the future where the "bash" in the event title may mean something else. It's a winner.

Thanks for cutting me off! Ha! Added myself back in now. 1. Rich - Trace Elliot TE-1200 amp, Barefaced Super 12T cab, earplugs , Shuker custom 5, Tanglewood TRB-CE acoustic bass gtr. 2. Woody - Rickenbacker 4004-L5, maybe Sei Flamboyant, Same old basschat 12" with some amp, other stuff TBC 3. Pinball (tbc) - some interesting basses 4. Stubsy - Joyo BadASS, GRBASS AT212 slim - only 50W but that should give 120dB at one metre 😇. (or I bring my TE 1110 combo). Some fun pedals. Perhaps the AVII 1960 precision, the Sire P10 and maybe the Fender Performer and something unexpected... 5. Sean - Mesa 400+, Laney Nexus Tube 400 [oh jeez], MJW Taranis 200 (Filthbox Matamp clone with extra channel and EQ), GK MBF500, GK Fusion 550, 2 x LFSys Monaco, 2 x Japanese Market Spector Euros with LHZ-03 preamps, Valenti #005 Super P, Yamaha BB1300, my small but well-appointed pedal-board (Origin Cali 76, Origin DCX, Aguilar Chorusaurus, etc) plus a mini walk-in bass surgery if interested. Plus whatever I might be selling at the time. 6. Rosie - likely I'll bring my upright, set up for bluegrass/folk/jazz if anyone's not played upright before and fancies a go 7. Phil - BassChat cabs, maybe some sort of shootout? 8. MikeD - Laney Digbeth, Zilla 212, Dingwall Combusion, Revelation PJ, pedals, try to finish home made bass🤞🤞🤞🤞 9. neepheid - G&L CLF L-1000, Yamaha BB1200, Sire D5, Sire Z7, Greco LGB-700, Reverend Triad, Epiphone Les Paul (not so) Standard, Epiphone Thunderbird '64, Squier Jaguar H (with Ibanez CAP double humbucker from ATK200/800 etc), Gear4Music rat bass (with Lace Aluma-P), £150 giggable bass challenge, 1 or 2 amps depending upon space... Edited Monday at 15:17 by Rich 10. Jabba_the_gut - Note sure what stuff yet........ 11. Wolverinebass - Grainger Hades, HX Stomp, GK Fusion 1200s. 12. Japanaxe Precision(s) & Dingwall(s) DIY 100W Bassman head if finished by then(!) as people seemed to like my B15 clone At least 1 other amp (see sig)

I think that as Ernie Ball have doing mad prices for everything post covid, I'm surprised the normal one is actually less than 4 grand. It's robbery of course, but considering the players who have famously played Stingrays and maybe not been made enough of, one could argue a Pino signature is somewhat overdue? However, all things aside, I wouldn't get one. Not because I've not spent more than that on a bass, but just because I think it's a minor tweak to a mass produced instrument with a name badge and an extra 1500 quid added to the price. That being said, isn't everyone doing it now? There's much more egregious examples of it about. Anything by Gibson for example.

Okay. Confirmed. 1. Rich - Trace Elliot TE-1200 amp, Barefaced Super 12T cab, earplugs , Shuker custom 5, Tanglewood TRB-CE acoustic bass gtr. 2. Woody - Rickenbacker 4004-L5, maybe Sei Flamboyant, Same old basschat 12" with some amp, other stuff TBC 3. Pinball (tbc) - some interesting basses 4. Stubsy - Joyo BadASS, GRBASS AT212 slim - only 50W but that should give 120dB at one metre 😇. (or I bring my TE 1110 combo). Some fun pedals. Perhaps the AVII 1960 precision, the Sire P10 and maybe the Fender Performer and something unexpected... 5. Sean - Mesa 400+, Laney Nexus Tube 400 [oh jeez], MJW Taranis 200 (Filthbox Matamp clone with extra channel and EQ), GK MBF500, GK Fusion 550, 2 x LFSys Monaco, 2 x Japanese Market Spector Euros with LHZ-03 preamps, Valenti #005 Super P, Yamaha BB1300, my small but well-appointed pedal-board (Origin Cali 76, Origin DCX, Aguilar Chorusaurus, etc) plus a mini walk-in bass surgery if interested. Plus whatever I might be selling at the time. 6. Rosie - likely I'll bring my upright, set up for bluegrass/folk/jazz if anyone's not played upright before and fancies a go 7. Phil - BassChat cabs, maybe some sort of shootout? 8. MikeD - Laney Digbeth, Zilla 212, Dingwall Combusion, Revelation PJ, pedals, try to finish home made bass🤞🤞🤞🤞 9. neepheid - G&L CLF L-1000, Yamaha BB1200, Sire D5, Sire Z7, Greco LGB-700, Reverend Triad, Epiphone Les Paul (not so) Standard, Epiphone Thunderbird '64, Squier Jaguar H (with Ibanez CAP double humbucker from ATK200/800 etc), Gear4Music rat bass (with Lace Aluma-P), £150 giggable bass challenge, 1 or 2 amps depending upon space... Edited Monday at 15:17 by Rich 10. Jabba_the_gut - Note sure what stuff yet........ 11. Wolverinebass - Grainger Hades, HX Stomp, GK Fusion 1200s.

In that case, I'll bring that. It's a curious bass as I had it made so you can use it either stereo or mono. Much like a Rickenbacker or Series Alembic. It's not as hard to play as some people might think if you put your arm on the wing a la John Entwistle as I am in the photo. I kind of didn't want to bring an instrument that you couldn't buy anymore (like the Status buzzard or Warmoth 8 string Explorer) and as Grainger will make that for you if you wish, it seems like the best way to go.

Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is a mishmash of Noel and Paul Stacey playing bass. Noel plays Go Let It Out.

I thought Go Let It Out wasn't very good to be honest and I saw them on that tour at Murrayfield in 2000. They played pretty much the same set that they played at Cardiff the other day. An old one. They lost relevance post 1996 with awful material and terribly produced albums. It's not like I don't like them as a band per se, but they've released much more crap material than great.

Well, most of my collection is a bit mental so I'll list the more weird ones. I'll list them in "declining pointy order" if you want. Pictures to hand of the first 2 if you want a laugh. Status John Entwistle Buzzard Grainger Hades 8 string Explorer 12 string Hamer Alembic Stanley Clarke Alembic Series 1 Wal Mk 2

See, I'm sick of that crap and there's nothing "modern" about it. It's almost as if virtuoso or groundbreaking bass players have never existed. We've retreated (or been relegated) to a role that the bass should have escaped by the 60s. Oasis isn't a bass player band anyway, but Andy Bell is probably the best guitarist in that band and he's not even playing guitar. Can't have Noel feel inferior can we?

Thanks. I'll try not to be. Can't promise anything of course as I am a belligerent Scot. If you still have it by that time, I'd be very interested in playing your Epiphone Les Paul actually as I think it looks fantastic. It'd certainly be good to meet you and the rest of the peeps properly. Naturally, getting the train, I'd be travelling light, so one bass, possibly a small amp and maybe a few pedals. I don't know what folk would be interested in trying that I own as since quite a lot of it is "pointy," or dare I say it, "mental," it does sometimes put people off.

Nice work and very creative. However, you will have to try harder to get an endorsement deal from EBS I fear.

Due to the lack of a SE Bash for the last few years I wondered, would it be okay to attend this out of region? Anyone going from London? Not that I can book train tickets for another few weeks yet.

You're certainly not going to show the kids "this is what you can sound like if you're any good," that's for sure.

Thanks @stevie. This was exactly what I was getting at. This is my goal as well. Have a cab which basically sounds exactly like the DI. I have tried various cabs and the closest I've ever got to this is my Vanderkley 2x12. Even that isn't quite the same to the exact details. As you say, the graph is of course subject to the mic position and all the other factors such as room reflections. I'm not sure if the idea of having the DI feed being the same as the mic'd cab is practically attainable or even possible, but it's in an ideal world what I want. My question was a roundabout way of asking if one doesn't know how to mic the cab properly, how can anyone say what goes out is what has went in?

I played the Monaco at the last SE Bash which was now some time ago. It was really good as I used the TE1200 and @Merton ACG. I hope this doesn't constitute a thread derail, but I'm curious about a few things. Are there any bigger cabs in the works? Like a 2x12? Also, as the crossover point seems to be very low and in the 1.5kHz region, how does one mic the cab to record it? All the snap and attack will be from the horn. Just curious really.

Oh yeah. I've had that. In fact, if anyone in a band I'm in uses the word "woke" as a pejorative term, it's a pretty good marker of there being some other shady stuff going on under the hood and you've just seen the tip of the iceberg. This view has been proved right every single time as there will be follow ups in varying degrees of misogyny, racism and the like which I'm never going to dig on.

You're more than welcome to pop over and have a play squire.