Wolverinebass

Quality!! "Diet Coke amps." I'm going to use that at some point unless you have patent pending.

Are you using the compression Lozz? Doing so adds stupid amounts of low end.

Their stuff only allows for cv control via the parameters selected by dip switches on the front of the pedal. I'm talking about presets which recall all the knob positions. There's a few examples though my Tech21 PSA 1.1 is brilliant for that reason. The original version came out in 1989 I think so the ideas I'm talking about are nothing new. Try selling a decent delay pedal without midi patches. In the main it's not adopted by distortions, but kind of has to by delays. Modulations slightly less, but it depends on what you require.

Well, that makes everything acceptable doesn't it? 😄 On a serious level, I'm sick of manufacturers gaming the wattage ratings for class D/switch power amps. Hartke's newest underpowered joke being another example. I generally operate on a rule of thumb that if it's class D, you need at least a third or 50% more power than it says it gives to get the required wattage you desire. Maybe it's just the cheaper amps don't use as good power modules, I don't know.

Interesting. However..... If this is another distortion pedal with no presets that costs £350, then not really so interesting. I honestly think Darkglass are totally missing a trick with this omission of functionality. Just my opinion though. We shall see what transpires.

I suspect that I'll be too late in any event at that price. I'm going to decide by the 15th as I'm back in the UK then and will be able to schedule delivery to fit in with my schedule. We shall see.

Maybe not a massive collection, but I think I'm done now. So, here we go: 1. Fenix by Young Chang (short scale) 2. Alembic Stanley Clarke Signature Standard 3. Status Graphite John Entwistle Buzzard 4. Warmoth 8 string Explorer 5. Hamer Chapparal 12 string 6. Eko Florence acoustic 7. Wal Mark 2 8. Fender Classic 50s Precision 9. Rickenbacker 4003

The compressor is already there so that they can game the wattage ratings.

Probably about 300 watts but with more compression baked in than a baked Alaska splatted on a car windshield in the height of summer.

I guess, I'm leaning towards the Vanderkley. Whatever cab I choose I'd have something great, so I'll hopefully be okay with that. Barefaced are definitely close after much thought, but I can't get to Brighton due to my work. So I'm buying blind regardless. I appreciate barefaced do custom baffles, but getting one and not liking the sound negates the warranty so you can't send it back and buying something just to send it back for a slightly different one seems bonkers. I don't think they're flimsy at all. There was a time when "barefaced handles" was a recurring joke on these forums, but it hasn't been for some time. I just don't dig on the looks as standard and the paint finish just isn't for me. As I've said on many occasions, if Alex did something about that, he'd get the custom of shallow preening Bass peacocks like myself. I don't think he's ever going to and if I'm paying £1200 for a cab, I want one which not only sounds great, but looks like as much care was taken presentationally as sonically. Should I care? Probably not, but I do. All that being said, I still haven't fully made up my mind.

I'm surprised that this bass is recyclable. Everyone knows that Hofner basses are stuffed with dead cats and sawdust. Much like DFS sofas actually.

At least since its recyclable you won't feel so bad when it quickly goes in the bin.

Sorry, I just reread this. I meant that the DI as it was fed into my Markbass cabs. The tweeters were on full blast and we're nowhere near as bright as Al Krows cab with the tweeter maxed and using the same settings. I didn't mean the Barefaced tweeter was harsh. It wasn't. Though, I was playing my Alembic through Si's rig. So possibly not a like for like test all round.

Cheers Dan. I played one at the 2013 south east bash and remember I could almost walk in a 150 degree arc in front of it without the sound changing markedly. I was playing Si's rig with quite a lot of bass so it wasn't anywhere near the settings I would use, but it was very impressive. It's not just about clarity though. If you listened to the Sansamp DI from my 12 string it sounded like a buzzsaw with absolutely no low end. That wasn't what came out the speakers. When I tried Al Krow's Vanderkley, I did the same settings with the tweeter on full and it nearly took our heads off. Admittedly, there was still low end, but the treble was just as massively overpowering as the DI would have been. I'm quite torn with this. Plus at £1200 for a cab it makes it a distinctly difficult choice as they're all about the same price. Please, somebody say something definitive! 🤣

I am right in thinking that the Berg is more coloured than the Vanderkley with Barefaced being least coloured? When I asked Mark Vanderkley what was "flat" for the tweeter, he said it was "taste." I'd been running my Markbass cabs with the tweeters full on so nothing was cut, but I couldn't control the treble quite to my own taste. What does everyone think? Do the other 3 allow for this type of control?

To clarify, when I said 12 and 8 string basses, they're Kings X, Cheap Trick variety (triple and double coursed 4 strings), not the super low E to whatever you'd tune up to. I won't be tuning any lower than drop C in all likelihood drop D being typical of this moment in time, so the massive bass extension is less of an issue than the treble.

So, after many moons using Markbass, I think it's time for a change and I'll be putting my stack up for sale to free up some funds. Thread to appear later today. So, What I'm after is a 2x12 one cab solution like most people it would seem. Preferably light (naturally) with as faithful a response as you can get. In an ideal world, what I want is the signal which goes in sounds exactly like what comes out. I appreciate that's not possible, so I've settled on the 3 brands above as possibilities. As they all cost about the same, I'm not bothered by that aspect of the equation. So with this in mind, I come to 3 choices - Bergantino HDN212, Barefaced Big Twin 2 and Vanderkley 212LNT. From my own point of view they each have their plus and minus points. Bergantino (it was a CN212 I'm basing this on) had a very pronounced low mid profile and maybe less treble extension? This was in the cab shootout as played by Lozz at the SE bash a couple of years ago. My thoughts on Barefaced are of the cosmetic variety and I just don't dig on the looks. Yes, I'm that shallow and I admit it. I played a prototype one at the SE bash in 2013, and thought the dispersion was great, but not using anything that resembled my own settings it was difficult to gauge quite how it was relative to me. Lastly Vanderkley. I've heard that some think they're a bit bright. Is that accepted wisdom? Having played Al Krow's 2x10 I was very impressed. I also had a go on another 2x10 at last year's SE bash. Very loud. The treble extension is very important to me as I quite often play 12 or 8 string basses, which are distorted in the upper edge for more bite. That is the acid test for me and indeed my own unique criteria which probably nobody on the forum will look at as something they would use to subjectively measure something. I can't really try before I buy and I won't have any gigs for some months due to holidays of the various bands I'm in. I'm just wanting the switcheroo to happen before everything kicks off again. I appreciate that everyone will have a tendency to recommend their own stuff, however, has anyone moved between all or some of these? Thoughts? Opinions? Missed anything? All advice is welcome.

I've tried it straight into a power amp. You'll be fine. Mine killed.

Darkglass, if you're reading this, something with presets. Midi compatability preferably. Do this and you'll rule the world.

By who? I'm really interested as it looks great. Pm me if you don't want the Ric police to see.

Who made that? Looks rather nice. Is it all Rick parts?

After not playing odd timings since being a kid learning piano, 15 years ago a band I was in had a song with a bit in 7/8. Well, that was it. I progressively (see what I did there?!!) moved further into it until I now find I almost can't play in 4/4 now as I feel constrained. However as for advice, I'd say listen to the melodic instruments. Guitar preferably. Don't count, just feel the pulse. Once you get it, it'll be a massive new string to your bow. Enjoy!

Yeah, I appreciate that fact. Your post was worded in a way that suggested genuine ric adverts on gumtree were getting pulled, hence my comment. Clearly Mr Hall is a tool and I'd imagine that were it someone else running the company, maybe a bit more "live and let live" might ensue. Most of the negativity associated with the brand appears to be interchangeable with him personally. I can see them going the same way as Gibson as the parallels are kind of obvious. Not as many people play them these days? Insane price hikes? Idiot CEO? All are ticked. Certainly, I'm a bit out of the loop of counter culture with the sort of music I do, but I am thinking they're well down the pecking order of current mainstream bands using them. I'm sure others with more knowledge will correct me!

So they're now actively going after people selling 2nd hand ones not just fakes? That's a different level of mental.