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    How do people feel about modern university education

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    University is never wasted if you work hard but I don’t understand why anyone would invest in university if it is not a gateway to employment and good employment. It is a expensive indulgence for a hobby, i.e. not making money

    If you want be a bass player for a living the uni fees will get you lots of privet tuition.

    “I learned skills that I could now get paid for, were I so inclined.” Why would you not be inclined.

    Why are you not using your skill for employment this is not a dig or personal just curiosity as to why people invest in uni then do something else.

    If it’s more money in your day job why go to uni
    Just some thoughts

    How do people feel about modern university education

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    How do people feel about modern university education in music and music technology?

    Have you got a better job out of it? Did it give you the skill to earn money in the music business?

    Did it give you the skills or just a leg up?

    If you employ musicians or engineers what do you think of the emerging students?

    Is the standard university dependent or is it across the board?

    Playing by ear Vs. reading music

    in Theory and Technique

    Posted · Edited by ironside1966

    [quote name='BigBeefChief' post='478551' date='May 3 2009, 09:17 PM']Either people who make crap music are drawn to learning to read, or people who learn to read make crap music. Not sure which is true, but one of them definitely is. Or maybe its both?

    Whatever.

    Bilbo used to be a right stud, leather trousers, long hair, thrusting groin, mother and daughter 3-somes. Learnt to read, now he's stuck in deepest darkest suffolk, working for "the man" and playing music that not even his dogs want to listen too.[/quote]

    Learning to read is not elitist it is not only for jazzes and boring for what you think is boring or musical w@ing in fact there are plenty of non readers who are self indulgent.
    if you have used a tab (a ot of tabs are wrong) or leant as bass line from a cd then reading would have been use full to you I bet some of the bass lines you love have been done by session men because studio time is money

    Playing by ear Vs. reading music

    in Theory and Technique

    Posted

    I am firmly in the pro reading camp but just because you are not musical literate does not mean what you do is not relevant.
    Punk and Blues for instance both where born out of musical ignorance and a lot of world music is not written down.

    The Sex pistols contributed more to modern music then any jazz band playing to 3 men and a dog in a pub

    But I agree there is nothing to be gained by not learning to read.

    Playing by ear Vs. reading music

    in Theory and Technique

    Posted

    Without going into too much detail I worked as a pro live engineer for quite a few year I had to give up for health reasons
    Not wanting to spend the rest of my life on the sick I went into further education. Having spent 2 years at FE collage and now I am just completing my first year at Uni although my marks have all been high I do not feel that it would prepared me for any real Pro work in either attitude or ability. The older tutors at FE where great and so are the Uni tutors but I would be skeptical about the ability of the younger tutors in a commercial environment.
    Saying that I have learnt a great deal.

    Playing by ear Vs. reading music

    in Theory and Technique

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    IMHO Talent is Talent whether you can read on not

    Just some thoughts, I thought a degree gave you the tools to make a living at music, give you a better chance than others without the education or why get yourself into a lot of debt. I am talking about the bread and butter work that most people do not your drams jobs for a few. The better paid work involves musical skills EG, teaching in schools, collage, unis, shows, run of the mill recording sessions like adverts.

    “However outside of that field there is an entire industry within which you can operate in many roles with a great deal of success without knowing how to read music.”
    I totally agree but they have little or no respect for formal qualifications also so again why get yourself into debt.

    Playing by ear Vs. reading music

    in Theory and Technique

    Posted

    I can read and that has made me a better player but not necessary a better player the everyone who can’t read, It has given me accesses to play tunes from Jaco , Bach and many more they would be imposable for most people to learn properly by ear, How many of us has the ability to work out a Charlie Parker sax solo by ear?

    I have to admit that I don’t understand why universities graduates can’t read music as this limits your potential for employment I know some people get around it but it must be limiting in many respects of employment.


    In a lot of cases in popular music qualifications aren’t worth the paper there written on.
    In the more traditional world of music where qualifications count it is taken for granted you can read.

    “Trouble is, you study music for too long, you end up playing rubbish. Simple, melodic basslines start to bore you, you start analysing everything you play, next thing you know, you're churning out suff like Jeff Berlin”

    A good musician Plays what is right for the track it may be a simple melodic bass line but they have more options

    Is your bass gear better than you are?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Times have changed

    In the Its grim up north town where I lived in the early 80s the only people who had big name guitars where people who had been playing a long time and gigged regularly, most people started on secondhand utter crap guitars then when they got better a cheap copy after they got better.
    This was a good thing INMO because it made you do the work not the guitar of FX as very few had pedals also may be just a fuzz box.

    I studded music at collage in my youth, most players where between grade 5 to grade 8 players and no one had a Fender or Gibson or anything in that class. Retuning to collage 20 years later most of the kids had pro guitars and amps regardless of if they could play or not, one thing I did notice there were a lot of great basses but most had dead strings.

    Whatever the gear you have talent will shine through.


    This is not a criticism just a observation, and I am wondering will the credit crunch bring them days back?

    Thinking of forming a covers band - Advice needed

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Treat it like a business

    Work out who your market is Eg , pubs, clubs, corporate. And find out what is expected Eg PA, lights and stage clothes

    Play the songs that they will want to hear but not necessary what others bands do, find your niche.

    Play to your strengths. Chose songs that the singer can sing well and avoided the ones he or she can’t even if you think they will go down well.

    Make Shure you band his up to the required standard , don’t rush out to half ready and start with a bad reputation.

    Watch tempos, and volume when necessary.

    You may have consider some parts on track ,Eg strings brass or p Cuss for a more refined sound.

    Above all Entertain and enjoy

    Good luck

    Overpriced listing thread

    in eBay - Weird and Wonderful

    Posted · Edited by ironside1966

    Squire Precision bass made in korea £280.00

    [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1989-Squire-by-Fender-White-Precision-Bass_W0QQitemZ280304631708QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item280304631708&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1989-Squire-by-Fende...bayphotohosting[/url]

    Nearfield Monitors recommendations

    in Accessories and Misc

    Posted

    [quote name='Fraktal' post='385668' date='Jan 20 2009, 06:42 AM']I bought these ones several years ago:

    [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_m1_aktiv_monitor_mk_ii.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_m1_aktiv_monitor_mk_ii.htm[/url]

    If you plan to spend a lot of time listening them, dont buy anything else. Those are by far the less "ear-fatiguing" monitors I have ever tried. I did an extensive research that took me approx. 3 weeks visiting all sound studios and friends in my city to compare all possible different brands. I tried everything from cheap Samsons to insanely expensive Genelecs and all those reputed standards as the Yamaha NS10, Event, D.A.S., Red Devils, etc. but when I heard the Alesis Mk1 I had to buy them. Perfect for loooooong mixing sessions without headaches or ear fatigue.[/quote]

    I Have a pair and are very happy with them , my mixes travel quite well

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